Do you think that the world’s attitude towards Jews is a new thing? FFS Shakespeare made a play about it.
Nope, no hidden message.
I don’t ask the religion of people when I meet them, but have seen the star of David worn as a pendent of some mates and friends so I guess I know a few.
Well I reckon you know better than to believe everything you read in the media! Especially the media owned mostly by right wingers.
Corbyn himself got Shami Chakrabarti to lead an inquiry. (She is a human rights etc lawyer) She found some flaws in the party’s knowledge etc but no institutional antisemitism. YouGov reckons that there was more antisemitism in the Tory and UKIP. Jewish Policy Research group reckons that the left is no more antisemitic than others.
The papers report the allegations in headlines, and report the inquiry findings in small print if at all.
Yeah ok, but on the other hand many are, let’s start with Starmer’s mate the Attorney General.
Or not…The Establisment are particularly good at conspiring, keeping secrets, and especially cover ups…you surely do not take them at face value do ya? 
Yep not pretty and certainly not prudent to put out in the public domain in the present climate.
One of reasons I don’t use FB with a gob like mine.
I have said to guys before in the past in particular dodgy heated rucks along the lines of…‘If you don’t pack that in I’‘ll f##### kill ya’’
Not a chance in hell of me practically carrying it out to the letter though…, they are just…yep…
'Hurty words…
A war crime?..ok.
You as an ex serviceman should know this better than me.
A friend of mine says you can not make comments about ambiguous and dodgy situations of war in the cold light of day, and in the context of normal day to day life sat in your living room… and if you were not there at the time.
Wise words I reckon.
Dresden, as in the Hiroshima scenario, it is justified by putting the actual deaths of people of an enemy state, (innocent or otherwise), against the potential and inevitable deaths of in that case US and UK servicemen if the war had not come to an end.
Nope.
A bit different though.
In a heated argument, when things are getting wound up, someone shouting “Go on ,
Fred kill him!” And if Fred does kill someone…
In highly charged situations it can go over the edge quickly.
Fires were set that night. It wasn’t Connolly that lit the actual match, but she was one of those encouraging the mindless mob that did.
A thump to someone’s chin might knock them over or might kill them.
Same action. Different outcome and different punishment.
If Connolly had sent the same message on another day she might have had zero comeback.
It was sent at the height of a tense and violent time.
Nah on the contrary…especially those owned and used by LEFT wingers in fact…
(Is it wingers or ‘whingers’ btw?
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How come anything I read in the media is wrong and when you do the same it is right.
How come any source of media I use is wrong,.any you use is right.
Fyi …and believe it or not I listen and watch both versions…
(that is of course when MSM decide to report on it…as the r4pes of local girls by immigrants in Ballymena at the moment for example 
…and the ensuing riots)
I weigh up both sides and decide which is right,.which is b/s and anywhere between the two.
Then decide how I make up my mind.
You should choose your friends more closely then. Not only was Dresden of no military value the type of munitions used deliberately created a firestorm as most of the buildings were made of wood. Not wishing to minimise things but for the vast majority of those who perished in Hiroshima and Nagasaki it was over in an instant. The victims in Dresden were effectively suffocated to death.
Yeah?? …I know that, I’ve been there, not so much ‘Fred kill him’ more ‘Rob kill him’.or similar at least.
Does not say I would…or indeed could.
It does not say the d/head in the background shouting ’ kill him’’ or similar actually MEANS it literally, and actually wants to see someone actually being literally killed.
And I CERTAINLY aint gonna take any notice off yer mate..’ Karen offa Facebook’’ if she was to urge me on…as dhe neither would actually mean it,.as the woman in question did not actually MEAN it.
Nah not having it mate, it was over the top jailing her, just Starmer making an example of her, and him making a point and direction in the future that he will take no resistance, resultin in his famous ‘2 tier Kier justice system’.
If I possessed the ability to time travel and if I had access to the higher echelons of Hamas I’d go back a couple of years to before the day they went beserk and shot themselves in the foot and I’d offer one piece of advice, that advice would be “if you are going to pull a tigers tail you better have a damned good plan for dealing with its teeth”
All the woes that currently befall Gaza can be laid squarely at the feet of Hamas. The civilians are also complicit by virtue of allowing and encouraging Hamas in their actions.
If the town phsycho (sp) makes eye contact with you you avoid it or accept that it’s all gonna go south real quick. If you encourage it to go south you best bring your A game to the fight.
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Harris was following Churchill’s orders, which the politician managed to sidestep responsibility afterwards. The US has managed to distance itself as well over the decades from its own involvment. The ASAAF followed up the RAF night time raid with two daytime raids over the following 48hrs. It also raided the city a further three times because it was a significant railway hub and industrial centre.
Ok cheers for that.
Next time I see him I’ll tell him he’s talking bollock5.
I know the details of Dresden, I also know that in real terms there was no real military gain nor strategy.
I also know that in the neo impossible event of Germany going on to win the war, Harris would may well be tried as a war criminal.
That does not alter the fact of the point I originally made (using Dresden as an example) ,.that in war whatever the tactics or strategy, civilians get killed,.and are labelled as collateral damage.
Harsh yeah, but I don’t make the rules, I’m only repeating them
So do you think that the whole region should be punished for the crime of a minority?
All Palestinians should suffer because of the actions of some of them?
Pretty much yep.
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So now you are asking Maoster the same question you repeatedly asked me…in varying forms.
Maybe I should have given the sane concise answer.
As you said before..
..too many words.
They have it their power to rid themselves of Hamas but choose not to . It’s like someone choosing to walk through a dog turd instead of stepping around it and then moaning afterwards.
You might be interested in this link…Collective punishment - Wikipedia
But to summarise what you are describing is collective punishment, and is a War Crime under the Geneva Convention and the Hague Convention.
Is what you are suggesting any different from the Nazis shooting civilians after resistance fighters could not be found?
ohhh an offical link… so thats why you kept on and on about it dispite being told.
here is the bottom line. person a is looking for person b. person b is willfully being hidden by persons cdefgh… should they just give up and say oh well it doesnt matter they will only kill ■■■■ and maim again. Should they hell… the people hiding person b is just as guilty its why we have conspiracy laws. you know the ones that starmer twisted by including hurty words to get rid of those that would stand up to his cobblers. ie the ones you are all for…
you will find out all about this in the not so distant future if starmer carries on. On second thoughts maybe you wont you will probably fold like a wet paper bag
Then you should choose your examples more carefully 
On a serious note though I agree that a lot of decisions made in the “fog of war” don’t look good in retrospection. That doesn’t necessarily mean they were the wrong decisions. I’m sure we’ve all made decisions that we wish we hadn’t but if we had the ability to go back in time and based on what we knew then we would probably have made the same decision. I just don’t think Dresden could ever come into that category.
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If the phrase exists, I see a divergent parallel between the bombing of Germany and the ground forces liberation of Europe, and what is going on in Gaza, the West Bank and Lebanon. During WW2 the RAF and Army suffered horrendous casualties from anti aircraft fire, defending fighter aircraft or enemy anti tank guns and troops. No such thing is happening in Gaza , the IDF are so, so brave safe at altitude in their cockpits, or tanks immune from anti aircraft or anti tank fire while they take careful aim at Hospitals.
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i have a bridge over the thames to sell ya if you believe that tripe. Your terrorist heros were hiding in the hospital and the people in the hospital knew that. Their own silly fault
or as has been proven many times hence all the retractions from the bbc the hospital was bombed by your mates or was never bombed at all