Busy Mr Trump

Let me ask a serious question, was there ever a retaliation group of palestine people who disagreed with what was happening to the country before the attacks
Thats in regards to the People who were running the show in the country not because the country was been treated bad by Israel

Netanyahu has been accused of genocide.
The ICJ has not dismissed the claim.
Starvation is a war crime.

Whether Netanyahu is innocent or guilty I am not sure. I do think he has a case to answer.

So after the IRA bombed London should the whole of Ireland been surrounded and blockaded?

Are Palestinian women and babies “reaping what they sowed”?

The Israelis are not going in hunting the guilty with an innocent life lost occasionally. They are denying basic human rights to a whole population.

yes hamas… have been at it for decades. israel took it and took it and took it untill oct 7th which is described as the worst attack on jews since the holocaust. They have been at it since 1948.

im sure if someone kept killing your families and friends for over 70 years you would do something about it

the bottom of the matter is the loony left havent the brain cells to operate in a normal common sense world. They dont understand that if you upset someone they will retaliate they are so entitled they think they can do what they want. Therefore they are ■■■■ scared of any country that shows backbone and doesnt kowtoe to their own loony ideals.

I bet anyone a pizza that if they went to one of these pro palestine marches and spoke to people at least half couldnt tell you where palestine is.

Sorry, but I’m not sure i follow the question.
I’ll try anyway.

It started in the 80’s, It was opposed to the illegal occupation of Palestine by the Israelis since 1967. Illegal that is under UN and International law.

Hamas was voted into power in 2006. It was the biggest group but was not voted in by a majority of voters. More voted for other parties than for Hamas.

Since then, what?

Quote: “According to one survey that was conducted just days before the 2023 war broke out, about 44% of respondents said they had no trust in Hamas, while 29% said they have a “great deal” of trust. That poll by Arab Barometer, in partnership with West Bank-based independent think tank, Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research (PCPSR) included 790 people in the West Bank and 399 people in Gaza, roughly one-quarter of whom said they would vote for Haniyeh in a hypothetical, future election. Additionally, most people who answered the survey (73%) said they did not share Hamas’ goal of eliminating Israel.”
from Snopes 06/11/2023

That doesn’t work though does it?
The IRA was Irish (obvs) Ireland is part of the UK not a foreign hostile state.
Northern Ireland was being supposedlly 'dealt with’by British troops.

We are going around in circles here…what about my Dresden and Hiroshima example?

A population governed by a terrorist regime the people of Dreseden and other German cities bombed were governed by Nazis, those and the present situation are both retaliation to hostility, with innocent civilians involved and caught up in it
As I said, not pretty but harsh real world stuff.

So out of curiosity…do you have the same opinions on my examples
Should the RAF have bombed cities indiscriminately killing civilians…should the USAF have nuked Japan?

I’ll share that winning pizza with you.:smiley:

Half of those clowns are virtual ‘‘professional protestors’’ with no jobs, supporting any left wing agenda cause, gobbing off and waving placards on any god dam campaign on what they see as ‘‘saving the world’’.

No, it is not.
Northern Ireland is, but many do not want it so.

Would the terrorist acts against civilians in London have justified greater killings against even more innocent civilians?

That some innocents die when chasing the guilty might be justified, killing loads of kids to get a few terrorists is not.

Dresden, Koln? I can see that bombing of industrial towns has military purpose.
The dropping of the A bomb might well have been needed to save even more lives in a longer war.

What is happening in Gaza is neither of those.
It looks like genocide.
And from the Israeli point of view it will 99% sure make them many more enemies and give their more violent opponents more recruits.
Netanyahu is making extremist Arabs stronger.

And what of prisoners of war?
D id the allies starve prisoners, did the Nazis? No.
Israel has surrounded Gaza and many, many, reports say there is not enough food and water and medicines going in to support even basic needs. Hospitals are operating without electricity and drugs. Air raids and shelling continues. Unarmed civilians trying to get to the front of the queue for food for their families are shot dead.
They are treating the Palestinians worse than the Nazis treated Allied PoWs.

Seriously?..
You felt the need to tell me that?..you actually thought I did not know?
It didn’t occur to you I actually meant NORTHERN Ireland?
I’ll have to watch my words then and be 100 accurate in terminoligy.

Why do you keep asking me the same question in a different form?.

Neither was terrorists killing ‘loads of kids’ which brought on the retaliation.
Maybe if the people rose up against their terrorist govt if they are so distraught about the aftermath of their actions it would go a long way to sorting the problem.
A load of bleating lefties protesting here there and everywhere won’t have any effect.
Even Gary Lineker and Quentin Cucumber (or whatever tf his name is) wrote a letter to Netanyahu :joy:…the arrogance.
I am sure that will have great effect on the circumstances.:roll_eyes:

Back around to the start of that circle again then,.where I say it’s retaliation rather than a first act of hostility…
So I’m done here.

Forgot to say btw…
Why is that Greta 'kin Thunberg being given so much coverage on every news channel today…as if she is some kind of hero saviour of the world?

Am I the only one who thinks everytime I see her..
‘Why don’t you just ■■■■ off pet, get yourself down the local nightclub, and leave politics to the grown ups’’ :roll_eyes:

So easy…from here.

It is a circle.
The circle did not start two years ago.
The “first act”? Has little meaning. Thinking the 2023 raid is the start point is plain wrong.

It is all from decades of fighting and also from claims on the land going back millennia.

The Hamas attack, totally wrong of course, was born of years of occupation and other injustices by the Israelis.
None are innocent here.

To break the circle it needs some greater than Netanyahu and the current Hamas leadership.

And by the way…for those who do like actual facts and figures.

Dresden lost about 24,000 homes and about 25,000 killed.
Gaza has recently lost about 72,000 homes and 52,000 lives about a third under 18.

Gaza is about 141 sq miles area. Birmingham is about 104 sq miles.

An area a bit bigger than Brum losing over 90% of it’s homes, and being held to siege as attacks continue, is not a proportional response to the, as awful as they are, deaths of 1,200 innocent Israelis.

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Donald says Thunberg should go to anger management classes :rofl: :rofl:

:grinning_face:
Well he must be right.

The “very stable genius” has only sent in State Troopers, and now only the Marines against civilians in California.
If he was a real nutter he would have unleashed nukes wouldn’t he?

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Yep what tf is he thinking dealing with illegals in his own country,.and not taking any sh off Lefty protestors eh?
What the hell is wrong with the guy,.he should be accommodating them in 4 star hotels with trips to the zoo and driving lessons…he shouldn’t be upsetting the bleating lefties either, they like their own way too much.
Starmer should be offering advice, he’s an expert on this stuff.:joy:

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Is the correct response to a half dozen cars burnt out, putting Marines on the street?

This aint Queensbury rules, or ‘Boy’s Own’ stories of friendly adversaries at war with friendly duels, or football matches in no man’s land…it’s harsh reality murderous war ffs…on both sides

Anyhow to be flippant for a minute, well at least it will maybe make them think twice about another terrorist activity.
Personally speaking I have always found that when getting revenge, if you go one or two steps better than they did to you it seems to close down any future ag, because they know who/what they are dealing with.

Oh ■■■■…sorry I said I was done with this, me and my gob eh? :roll_eyes:
Carry on anyhoo…

A similar response like my last post is appropriate.to that.
Go in hard, go one better, make them see who/what they are dealing with and up against…put them off.
Job done.

Trump aint one for getting his Police dancing in the street at gay rallies and the like…it aint the UK.

So do you reckon that Starmer was too soft on those destroying property and setting fires after the Southport killings? That the rioters were dealt with too softly?