Yep. So if your kids were strip searched, locked up in a prison and handcuffed would you think that was reasonable way to treat them? For possibly thinking about getting a job?
{t looks like the authorities were doing it all legally. But reasonably?
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I think the clue to my answer was here…
Of course I would not be happy, but they visited that country voluntarily, nobody forced them…when in Rome etc etc, you abide by their ways.
(Or are you getting a bit confused with the way illegal visitors to OUR country conduct themselves whilst being allowed to do so by OUR govt? )
Anyway the treatment in the jail was not the issue you brought this partivular scenario up, tourists whilst gobbing off about Trump again.
Will a hostel do?
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Sorry hawaii is part of the u ited states since august 1959.
So these two girls turned up in hawaii apparently heading for california but didnt have tickets or accommodation and tried to go through us immigration approximately 2,500 miles early. Lets also not forget that they flew aprox 20,000 km in the wrong direction
It is about two things.
The treatment seems OTT to me.
Non-physically threatening girls being treated that way.
But firstly, them being refused entry on suspicion that they were telling lies.
No proof of them about to work illegally just a belief of the authorities.
Yes, it is enough under the US law for them to be turned away. But as I said IMHO not reasonable to treat them that harshly.
I cant find a single country in the world that allows you to work in the local economy on a tourist visa. So once again more lefty whinging over big bad trump
Of course it is.
They were apparently talking of doing work for foreign clients online. Possibly in their home country. Taking no work from US workers.
If an office worker gets a work email whilst in the US should they be arrested?
Yes.
Sounds like a fun way to travel on a gap year or similar.
No one has alleged that they were destitute have they? That they would be a burden on the state?
And neither were these girls.
Anyone going on holiday has a plan and appropriate flights and accommodation booked. You turn up having gone 20,000 km out your way cant answer basic questions like where your going to stay etc its going to raise flags and you could be denied entry.
I know your used to mr blobby standing there at Heathrow letting in any tom dick and harry but the rest of the world takes immigration seriously and have set procedures and know when they are being lied to. They arent some lefty off trucknet
When i went on my tour of southeast asia there was a guy from denmark that didnt have the correct papers to go from laos to vietnam. They were going to arrest him for immergration offences but let him go with a 3000 euro f8ne. And when he arrived in vietnam he was questioned for 3 hours even though the guide was there with booked hotels and an itinerary
A friend of mine turned up in Australia last year, just a backpack and credit cards, and some cash. No hotels booked and planning on staying for a month, she spent 8 hours questioned by immigration. But once they saw her facebook and instagram post they let her in. 64 years old and backpacking over asia and Australia for 6 month. she is now in South America, and so glad not to go to USA 1st.
Im betting they had a plan though… she didnt just turn up and say hey let me in for a month im just going to bum around.
If i went to the states to drive route 66 i may not of booked hotels i may plan to stop in motels along the way. However i would have a plan and itinerary a vehicle booked return flights and enough money for the trip without working freelance or not.
Not everyone …obviously
She didn’t even have a flight to UK booked! She admits she was very luck not to be sent home, she just arrived from Thailand
Yep you cant book motels from the uk…but i can research and plan to drive between point x to point y and research places to stay in point y
Their possible clients were abroad, did they intend to do the work while in the US??
The article mentions translation and design work, were they going to be receiving docs from a US source and translating them while in the US to be sent to their clients abroad and would they be getting paid for this work while in the US.
You would have to delve into US employment law to solve that one.
Whatever the circumstances there was enough to arouse border control suspicions that there would be a possible breach of their entry doc conditions.
We are doing a Canada / US road trip in October, better keep my nose clean:face_holding_back_tears:
A bit over a year I was down in Spain. I met a couple who were doing some touring in a camper. They were IT workers and so could do work whilst on the road. They were, from what I understood working for a UK company.
Strictly legal? I dunno?
But they were not taking work from any locals and didn’t seem likely to be liable to pay Spanish taxes.
Thats how sunaks mrs got millions from india tax free somthing you have moaned about repeatedly.
The law has been changed since then you know need a special nomad visa.
However even ignoring the incorrect visa the german girls were going to freelance. No contract no regular work. Unlike your it couple by the sound of it
Wonder if the US border force deemed them as “irregulars” too?
And still he keeps blagging it and digging in an attempt to achieve what he sees as ‘damage limitation’ rather than just say…, ‘Oh maybe I got it wrong’…and moving on.
Thing is nobody except him are bothered.
Pathetic.
Totally different.
These girls were proposing to stay in the US for weeks, as tourists, not live and set up home for years.