Been at my new company for 4 months now and at the start of my shift last night I had an accident in the yard. I was turning left and caught a unit on the right with tail swing, caused damage to the door, front corner and mirrors. Do you think the company will take any action on this?? Or is it a case of just fill in an insurance form??
Depends on the company I suppose.
Some bosses will simply give you a rollicking and forget about it, some others (mostly companies with large HR departments) will go the full monty with written warnings, re-training etc.
I doubt if you are looking at dismissal though unless you have previous.
del949:
Depends on the company I suppose.
Some bosses will simply give you a rollicking and forget about it, some others (mostly companies with large HR departments) will go the full monty with written warnings, re-training etc.
I doubt if you are looking at dismissal though unless you have previous.
No other disciplinarys and they don’t really have a large hr department…
Surely it should just get treated as an accident (which it was) , and left there without the formal stuff
gurj254:
del949:
Depends on the company I suppose.
Some bosses will simply give you a rollicking and forget about it, some others (mostly companies with large HR departments) will go the full monty with written warnings, re-training etc.
I doubt if you are looking at dismissal though unless you have previous.No other disciplinarys and they don’t really have a large hr department…
Surely it should just get treated as an accident (which it was) , and left there without the formal stuff
Yep it should be treated this way. Wether it will be treated that way is open for debate. When I started in haulage (a whole 8 years ago) it would of been a bollocking and some ■■■■ taking. Sadly today it could be anything from that to the full blown CSI
Tipper Tom:
gurj254:
del949:
Depends on the company I suppose.
Some bosses will simply give you a rollicking and forget about it, some others (mostly companies with large HR departments) will go the full monty with written warnings, re-training etc.
I doubt if you are looking at dismissal though unless you have previous.No other disciplinarys and they don’t really have a large hr department…
Surely it should just get treated as an accident (which it was) , and left there without the formal stuff
Yep it should be treated this way. Wether it will be treated that way is open for debate. When I started in haulage (a whole 8 years ago) it would of been a bollocking and some ■■■■ taking. Sadly today it could be anything from that to the full blown CSI
CSI??
gurj254:
Tipper Tom:
gurj254:
del949:
Depends on the company I suppose.
Some bosses will simply give you a rollicking and forget about it, some others (mostly companies with large HR departments) will go the full monty with written warnings, re-training etc.
I doubt if you are looking at dismissal though unless you have previous.No other disciplinarys and they don’t really have a large hr department…
Surely it should just get treated as an accident (which it was) , and left there without the formal stuff
Yep it should be treated this way. Wether it will be treated that way is open for debate. When I started in haulage (a whole 8 years ago) it would of been a bollocking and some ■■■■ taking. Sadly today it could be anything from that to the full blown CSI
CSI??
Crime Scene Investigation. All the tape measures and the re training and arse ache that logistics specialists (rather than haulage firms) go through when someone sneezes in the wrong place.
I’ll have to wait and see. Be back in later.
gurj254:
Been at my new company for 4 months now and at the start of my shift last night I had an accident in the yard. I was turning left and caught a unit on the right with tail swing, caused damage to the door, front corner and mirrors. Do you think the company will take any action on this?? Or is it a case of just fill in an insurance form??
6 months worth of investigation and scrolling through cctv if it was our firm. A silly accident to have though hitting a stationary vehicle in the yard, but probably a good tongue lashing and plenty of mickey taking. 
bald bloke:
gurj254:
Been at my new company for 4 months now and at the start of my shift last night I had an accident in the yard. I was turning left and caught a unit on the right with tail swing, caused damage to the door, front corner and mirrors. Do you think the company will take any action on this?? Or is it a case of just fill in an insurance form??6 months worth of investigation and scrolling through cctv if it was our firm. A silly accident to have though hitting a stationary vehicle in the yard, but probably a good tongue lashing and plenty of mickey taking.
Yea was a bit silly, where I took the trailer from it was a bit tight as the company I work for have extra trailers stacked up over Xmas…
Not much help, but, they’re asking for it.
We park our trailers at the bottom of the yard & some of the early so called ‘Class One Drivers’ just shove their outfits anywhere along the row, without much thought for the later drivers , then its dark with no lights for points of reference, jack knifing into a tight parking space in the rain, you can guess the rest 
we’ve had a few trailers caught & no doubt, some one will catch one of the tractors one day (as long as its not mine ) 
An ‘accident’ is where something is not reasonably avoidable such as a tyre blowing out when the daily checks revealed nothing amiss so was this avoidable ?
An accident, mishap, or, more archaically, misadventure, is an unforeseen and unplanned event or circumstance, often with lack of intention or necessity. It usually implies a generally negative outcome which may have been avoided or prevented had circumstances leading up to the accident been recognized, and acted upon, prior to its occurrence.
Not according to this definition.
I doubt the OP ‘planned’ the event nor had the ‘intention’ and had the OP ’ recognised’ the circumstances leading up to the event he would have avoided it.
del949:
An accident, mishap, or, more archaically, misadventure, is an unforeseen and unplanned event or circumstance, often with lack of intention or necessity. It usually implies a generally negative outcome which may have been avoided or prevented had circumstances leading up to the accident been recognized, and acted upon, prior to its occurrence.
Not according to this definition.
I doubt the OP ‘planned’ the event nor had the ‘intention’ and had the OP ’ recognised’ the circumstances leading up to the event he would have avoided it.
Thanks for that, exactly, I never went to work yesterday planning to hit a unit nor would I have continued to drive forward if I thought I was going to cause damage.
These things do happen in day to day life, we don’t live in a perfect world where no one has an accident otherwise there would be no such thing as insurance.
Of course nobody plans to have an ‘incident’ but why did the incident happen - driver error maybe?
ROG:
Of course nobody plans to have an ‘incident’ but why did the incident happen - driver error maybe?
Why do most incidents happen? They are driver error, I’m not saying it ain’t my fault.
gurj254:
ROG:
Of course nobody plans to have an ‘incident’ but why did the incident happen - driver error maybe?Why do most incidents happen? They are driver error, I’m not saying it ain’t my fault.
So we both agree that’s its not an accident but an incident
ROG:
gurj254:
ROG:
Of course nobody plans to have an ‘incident’ but why did the incident happen - driver error maybe?Why do most incidents happen? They are driver error, I’m not saying it ain’t my fault.
So we both agree that’s its not an accident but an incident
No mate, it’s an accident. Accidents can happen under driver error too.
gurj254:
ROG:
gurj254:
ROG:
Of course nobody plans to have an ‘incident’ but why did the incident happen - driver error maybe?Why do most incidents happen? They are driver error, I’m not saying it ain’t my fault.
So we both agree that’s its not an accident but an incident
No mate, it’s an accident. Accidents can happen under driver error too.
How?
An accident is an unavoidable situation - that is why the emergency services have stopped calling them that unless its proved that the driver could not reasonably do anything about it - they now call them road traffic collisions or incidents
Accident definition: an unfortunate incident that happens unexpectedly and unintentionally, typically resulting in damage or injury.
So yea it is a type of an incident but ultimately it is an accident.
It doesn’t really matter though, does it? As far as I remember, your OP was about what the company were likely to do about it, not about what they’d call it. 