BRIDGE STRIKES.

UK PROFESSIONAL DRIVERS FORUMS THE UK PROFESSIONAL DRIVERS FORUM (INTERACTIVE)
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stevieboy308:
i don’t understand how you’re never heard of human error

Lets put this all into perspective.

Have been contributing to this thread for quite a while now and have myself driven double deckers and all size trailers for the last 36 years and i have never, repeat, never hit a low bridge.

In my opinion it is blatant driving with out due care and attention nothing less nothing more, and as each month goes by i despair at the so called professional drivers that hit these bridges.

There is no excuse, imagine a surgeon removing the wrong limbs during operations over and over again would you put that down to human error.

I just don’t understand the reasoning of been in control of what you know is a high vehicle and going flat out under a low bridge, as many have done in the incidents featured in this thread!

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Toddy2:

Contraflow:
Today’s effort… :unamused:

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/lorry-hits-erdington-railway-bridge-8181406

What a Donk !!

No… THIS is a DONK!! youtu.be/ckMvj1piK58 :laughing: :laughing:

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moomooland:

stevieboy308:
i don’t understand how you’re never heard of human error

Lets put this all into perspective.

Have been contributing to this thread for quite a while now and have myself driven double deckers and all size trailers for the last 36 years and i have never, repeat, never hit a low bridge.

In my opinion it is blatant driving with out due care and attention nothing less nothing more, and as each month goes by i despair at the so called professional drivers that hit these bridges.

There is no excuse, imagine a surgeon removing the wrong limbs during operations over and over again would you put that down to human error.

I just don’t understand the reasoning of been in control of what you know is a high vehicle and going flat out under a low bridge, as many have done in the incidents featured in this thread!

I think a lot of them are “regular route drivers” who drive under that bridge 10 times a month without issue… then one day they need a bit of extra trailer space, so the gaffer gives them a decker, and said driver has been too lazy/complacent to change the height indicator in the cab… WHOOPS!!!

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moomooland:

stevieboy308:
i don’t understand how you’re never heard of human error

Lets put this all into perspective.

Have been contributing to this thread for quite a while now and have myself driven double deckers and all size trailers for the last 36 years and i have never, repeat, never hit a low bridge.

In my opinion it is blatant driving with out due care and attention nothing less nothing more, and as each month goes by i despair at the so called professional drivers that hit these bridges.

There is no excuse, imagine a surgeon removing the wrong limbs during operations over and over again would you put that down to human error.

I just don’t understand the reasoning of been in control of what you know is a high vehicle and going flat out under a low bridge, as many have done in the incidents featured in this thread!

I am with MooMoo on this

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moomooland:

stevieboy308:
i don’t understand how you’re never heard of human error

Lets put this all into perspective.

Have been contributing to this thread for quite a while now and have myself driven double deckers and all size trailers for the last 36 years and i have never, repeat, never hit a low bridge.

In my opinion it is blatant driving with out due care and attention nothing less nothing more, and as each month goes by i despair at the so called professional drivers that hit these bridges.

There is no excuse, imagine a surgeon removing the wrong limbs during operations over and over again would you put that down to human error.

I just don’t understand the reasoning of been in control of what you know is a high vehicle and going flat out under a low bridge, as many have done in the incidents featured in this thread!

Yes, let’s put it in perspective. Surgeons do sometimes make mistakes. Occasionally they do indeed remove the wrong limb (other body parts likewise). If the same surgeon makes repeated mistakes, he soon becomes an ex-surgeon. Same applies to lorry drivers.

There are fewer than 20,000 surgeons in England - There are at least 10 times as many lorry drivers. On average, each surgeon carries out a handful of operations each day, whereas each lorry driver goes under dozens of bridges in the same timeframe. Small wonder then that there are a lot more bridge strikes than serious surgical errors (in 2013 there were 1700 bridge strikes, and 89 cases of NHS surgeons operating on the wrong body part).

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Roymondo:

moomooland:

stevieboy308:
i don’t understand how you’re never heard of human error

Lets put this all into perspective.

Have been contributing to this thread for quite a while now and have myself driven double deckers and all size trailers for the last 36 years and i have never, repeat, never hit a low bridge.

In my opinion it is blatant driving with out due care and attention nothing less nothing more, and as each month goes by i despair at the so called professional drivers that hit these bridges.

There is no excuse, imagine a surgeon removing the wrong limbs during operations over and over again would you put that down to human error.

I just don’t understand the reasoning of been in control of what you know is a high vehicle and going flat out under a low bridge, as many have done in the incidents featured in this thread!

Yes, let’s put it in perspective. Surgeons do sometimes make mistakes. Occasionally they do indeed remove the wrong limb (other body parts likewise). If the same surgeon makes repeated mistakes, he soon becomes an ex-surgeon. Same applies to lorry drivers.

There are fewer than 20,000 surgeons in England - There are at least 10 times as many lorry drivers. On average, each surgeon carries out a handful of operations each day, whereas each lorry driver goes under dozens of bridges in the same timeframe. Small wonder then that there are a lot more bridge strikes than serious surgical errors (in 2013 there were 1700 bridge strikes, and 89 cases of NHS surgeons operating on the wrong body part).

If we are talking perspectives - a surgeon does not have the luxury of a F-ing great reflective sign & chevrons on the kidney he’s not to supposed remove !!

Still No excuse I say !!!

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Toddy2:
If we are talking perspectives - a surgeon does not have the luxury of a F-ing great reflective sign & chevrons on the kidney he’s not to supposed remove !!

Still No excuse I say !!!

And a lorry driver doesn’t have the luxury of a team of people alongside him, each with their own eyes, ears etc and knowledge of what is/is not supposed to happen.

“Human error” is not being touted as an excuse here anyway - simply an explanation of why Bad Things sometimes happen.

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moomooland:

stevieboy308:
i don’t understand how you’re never heard of human error

Lets put this all into perspective.

Have been contributing to this thread for quite a while now and have myself driven double deckers and all size trailers for the last 36 years and i have never, repeat, never hit a low bridge.

In my opinion it is blatant driving with out due care and attention nothing less nothing more, and as each month goes by i despair at the so called professional drivers that hit these bridges.

There is no excuse, imagine a surgeon removing the wrong limbs during operations over and over again would you put that down to human error.

I just don’t understand the reasoning of been in control of what you know is a high vehicle and going flat out under a low bridge, as many have done in the incidents featured in this thread!

whilst i’ve never pulled a decker, i spent a couple of years pulling a tall curtain sider and i too haven’t hit a bridge or come close to it. but i have made mistakes! i did once bang my head though. standing up in one of the few low roof premiums that the company had, out of a fleet made up mainly of the more popular tall roof version of which my usual steed was one.

i’m not saying it’s not driving without due care. the professional drivers are human first and as humans will make mistakes. it’s not a new thing and it’s not about to end anytime soon. do you make mistakes?

but surgeons have removed the wrong limbs, i doubt it’s a mistake that’s gets repeated very often, i also doubt that of all the people to have hit a bridge there are many that have done it twice. there’s an entire industry set up around medical negligence. now don’t get me wrong, there’s a lot more to go wrong in that line of work, but the average medical worker will be a lot brighter than the average truck driver and have a lot more training, with a lot more protocol to follow, but they, as humans still make mistakes.

exactly, the ones going flat out are not thinking this is going to be tight, anyone in their right mind who thought it was going to be tight would be going slow. there has been a lapse in concentration, have you ever had a lapse in concentration?

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moomooland:

Roymondo:
Yes, let’s put it in perspective. Surgeons do sometimes make mistakes. Occasionally they do indeed remove the wrong limb (other body parts likewise). If the same surgeon makes repeated mistakes, he soon becomes an ex-surgeon. Same applies to lorry drivers.

There are fewer than 20,000 surgeons in England - There are at least 10 times as many lorry drivers. On average, each surgeon carries out a handful of operations each day, whereas each lorry driver goes under dozens of bridges in the same timeframe. Small wonder then that there are a lot more bridge strikes than serious surgical errors (in 2013 there were 1700 bridge strikes, and 89 cases of NHS surgeons operating on the wrong body part).

For Christ sake i just used this as a hypothetical example!!!

You need to get a life rather than research surgeons on the net. :blush:

Goodnight!

I have a life, thanks. I also have a basic understanding of probability. Do you?

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Ha ha ha calm down you two!
My take on it is the standard of driving nowadays is Inkeeping with the accidents on this thread and not surprising.
What ever happened to crawling upto the bridge with your head out of the window or asking a pedestrian to watch you under if you are unsure

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overdrive:
Ha ha ha calm down you two!
My take on it is the standard of driving nowadays is Inkeeping with the accidents on this thread and not surprising.
What ever happened to crawling upto the bridge with your head out of the window or asking a pedestrian to watch you under if you are unsure

Or get a measuring tape out before you set off on you shift.

If your not 100% get out and have a look

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stevieboy308:

Themoocher:

stevieboy308:

Themoocher:
‘…I don’t understand how you can hit a bridge … Surely to god …’

‘…I don’t understand how you’re never heard of human error…’

‘… look up and think god that’s tight…’

‘…Dude, tell you what, why don’t you post up an example of a mistake you’ve made and i’ll dissect it and tell you how i don’t understand how you made the mistake. Don’t go jibbing on me…’

Stevie, Moochy has cunningly given you such ammo by consistency spelling ‘God’ in lower case.

Your cue is maybe to suggest how nobody should ever be both so wrong and disrespectful during this delightful season of love, forgiveness and grace, etc? :sunglasses: :unamused: :wink:

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Not sure if this has been mentioned but some of the buses I have driven have a GPS device which makes an annoying beeping sound when you get near to a low bridge (even if the route doesn’t go that way) so there is stuff on the market

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Lots of comments on increased number of bridge strikes. Has anybody worked out if it has increased in proportion to the increase number of trucks on our roads UK and foreign motors or it has increased full stop ?

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Adam27:
Not sure if this has been mentioned but some of the buses I have driven have a GPS device which makes an annoying beeping sound when you get near to a low bridge (even if the route doesn’t go that way) so there is stuff on the market

Yep - page 6 - it’s called Bridge Clear, here is a picture, You set the height & the GPS works out where you are - beeps & flashes at you, and the display at the bottom gives you distance to impact - whilst he beeping gets quicker

As said before, they have stopped fitting them to save money - false economy in my book, when they tell me the deckers cost £ 120,000 each ■■

But what do I know - just a thick driver, we are told they pay us to drive, not think !!

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Cheers mate. Too many posts to read them all .

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Without wanting to sound like I’m defending the stupid… A van driver won’t necessarily be aware of his height, I doubt anything under 10’ has it marked up in the cab as clearly as larger vehicles. Again, I’m not defending it - ignorance is no excuse, after all.

Presumably with that in mind, I’ve seen some VERY low bridges (sub 10’ jobs), with additional signage telling van drivers to think twice.

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Juddian:
South of Worksop on the A619 there’s a set of hanging chains Blackwall style either side of the bridge, seeing as the govt seems to have a bottomless pit of our money to burn, it would make sound economic and safety sense to put a set of those up both sides of every bridge at risk in the country.

Have you ever noticed that they’ve put the chains immediately after the last place you could turn an artic around? :unamused: :laughing: