truckfing:
pigpen:
and another 15’ 11’’ wont go under 15’ dohhttp://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/new … ay_bridge/
Would you take the advice of a motorist um no. I live in the area and to be fair to the driver unless you had local knowledge or a route plan you would end up going through a weight limit to reach the store. The use of a risk assessment and detailed route plan is a bit of a no brainer when using that type of trailer.
This driver makes the hall of shame youtu.be/bJJ2BHoqnfE
war1974:
i agree 4meters should be the height no stupid double deckers more work more jobs
The rest of europe manages so why can’t we.
Regarding squeaky bum time when approaching 4.1m height limits when running at 4.0m…try running through Holland with a 6x2 english motor and a 4.0m trailer…especially some of the tunnels around Rotterdam…Benelux tunnel is a good example 
We shouldn’t have to lower like Europe at all. Anyone thats been to any pallet network hub at night will no its not feasible to do away with double deckers. Companies will go bust having to run double the amount of trucks and having to pay double the amount of wages.
And at the end of the day the bottom line is that even if we did go to 4M then there would be some numpty somewhere who will still try and go under a 10ft bridge!!!
RIPPER:
war1974:
i agree 4meters should be the height no stupid double deckers more work more jobsThe rest of europe manages so why can’t we.
Regarding squeaky bum time when approaching 4.1m height limits when running at 4.0m…try running through Holland with a 6x2 english motor and a 4.0m trailer…especially some of the tunnels around Rotterdam…Benelux tunnel is a good example
Try it at 4.4m ducking in between the ventilation fans of the tunnels 
billybigrig:
RIPPER:
war1974:
i agree 4meters should be the height no stupid double deckers more work more jobsThe rest of europe manages so why can’t we.
Regarding squeaky bum time when approaching 4.1m height limits when running at 4.0m…try running through Holland with a 6x2 english motor and a 4.0m trailer…especially some of the tunnels around Rotterdam…Benelux tunnel is a good example
Try it at 4.4m
ummmmmm…noooo thankyou
FarnboroughBoy11:
And at the end of the day the bottom line is that even if we did go to 4M then there would be some numpty somewhere who will still try and go under a 10ft bridge!!!
Agreed and as you can see “delivering” bridges is far from a UK dominated sport.
The height isn’t necessarily the problem, more the nut that holds the steering wheel 
FarnboroughBoy11:
We shouldn’t have to lower like Europe at all. Anyone thats been to any pallet network hub at night will no its not feasible to do away with double deckers. Companies will go bust having to run double the amount of trucks and having to pay double the amount of wages.
Pallet networks wouldn’t need double the vehicles, there would be an increase but not that much. They key to it all is in the word ‘logistics’-it would create more jobs for us & that’s what we need right now…
war1974 wrote:
i agree 4meters should be the height no stupid double deckers more work more jobs
precisely 
Its not very often that you see a Double Decker stuck under a bridge. Seems to be mostly single deckers that get it wrong. I think that drivers pulling DDs are more aware and cautious of their height, meaning less accidents. So why do you want to ban DDs?
Pimpdaddy:
FarnboroughBoy11:
We shouldn’t have to lower like Europe at all. Anyone thats been to any pallet network hub at night will no its not feasible to do away with double deckers. Companies will go bust having to run double the amount of trucks and having to pay double the amount of wages.Pallet networks wouldn’t need double the vehicles, there would be an increase but not that much. They key to it all is in the word ‘logistics’-it would create more jobs for us & that’s what we need right now…
war1974 wrote:
i agree 4meters should be the height no stupid double deckers more work more jobsprecisely
I don’t understand your thinking there. A single decker can take 26plts, while a decker can take close to 50plts. So it looks like pallet networks would have to double their fleet to shift the freight if DDs were banned. 
I thought if you repositioned the depot network, utilised space/time (I.e empty running)a bit more it would use less than double the vehicles currently used. Maybe use longer trailers or even low deckers that run @ 4.0m. I don’t know, that’s just my crazy theory but ultimately it’d create jobs.
Pimpdaddy:
I thought if you repositioned the depot network, utilised space/time (I.e empty running)a bit more it would use less than double the vehicles currently used. Maybe use longer trailers or even low deckers that run @ 4.0m. I don’t know, that’s just my crazy theory but ultimately it’d create jobs.
It would create more jobs and require more trucks on the road. You can hardly charge a customer an extra 50 pence per pallet without them threatening to give their work to someone else. Could you imagine telling them you need to charge them an extra £50 per pallet to cover costs due to having to employ extra drivers and run extra trucks? Our DDs leave our yard at full capacity and return the same way, so no space left to utilise.
damoq:
Pimpdaddy:
I thought if you repositioned the depot network, utilised space/time (I.e empty running)a bit more it would use less than double the vehicles currently used. Maybe use longer trailers or even low deckers that run @ 4.0m. I don’t know, that’s just my crazy theory but ultimately it’d create jobs.It would create more jobs and require more trucks on the road. You can hardly charge a customer an extra 50 pence per pallet without them threatening to give their work to someone else. Could you imagine telling them you need to charge them an extra £50 per pallet to cover costs due to having to employ extra drivers and run extra trucks? Our DDs leave our yard at full capacity and return the same way, so no space left to utilise.
If everyone has the same space, then they’ll all be charging the same… Exactly like it is now
edited to add…
BUT, if you’ve been in a queue in 1 of the pallet hubs now, imagine what it’d be like with 70% more trucks in there
waynedl:
damoq:
Pimpdaddy:
I thought if you repositioned the depot network, utilised space/time (I.e empty running)a bit more it would use less than double the vehicles currently used. Maybe use longer trailers or even low deckers that run @ 4.0m. I don’t know, that’s just my crazy theory but ultimately it’d create jobs.It would create more jobs and require more trucks on the road. You can hardly charge a customer an extra 50 pence per pallet without them threatening to give their work to someone else. Could you imagine telling them you need to charge them an extra £50 per pallet to cover costs due to having to employ extra drivers and run extra trucks? Our DDs leave our yard at full capacity and return the same way, so no space left to utilise.
If everyone has the same space, then they’ll all be charging the same… Exactly like it is now
edited to add…
BUT, if you’ve been in a queue in 1 of the pallet hubs now, imagine what it’d be like with 70% more trucks in there
True, but that would mean the end of pallet networks as a cost effective means of transporting pallets. For example, it would cost nearly £500 to collect and deliver 5plts through a pallet network. That’s almost the same for a full load. DDs are therefore needed to transport small consignments of mixed pallets to hubs for onward delivery in a cost effective manner. But then I would say that as my work involves collecting and delivering for a large pallet network.
damoq:
waynedl:
damoq:
Pimpdaddy:
I thought if you repositioned the depot network, utilised space/time (I.e empty running)a bit more it would use less than double the vehicles currently used. Maybe use longer trailers or even low deckers that run @ 4.0m. I don’t know, that’s just my crazy theory but ultimately it’d create jobs.It would create more jobs and require more trucks on the road. You can hardly charge a customer an extra 50 pence per pallet without them threatening to give their work to someone else. Could you imagine telling them you need to charge them an extra £50 per pallet to cover costs due to having to employ extra drivers and run extra trucks? Our DDs leave our yard at full capacity and return the same way, so no space left to utilise.
If everyone has the same space, then they’ll all be charging the same… Exactly like it is now
edited to add…
BUT, if you’ve been in a queue in 1 of the pallet hubs now, imagine what it’d be like with 70% more trucks in there
True, but that would mean the end of pallet networks as a cost effective means of transporting pallets. For example, it would cost nearly £500 to collect and deliver 5plts through a pallet network. That’s almost the same for a full load. DDs are therefore needed to transport small consignments of mixed pallets to hubs for onward delivery in a cost effective manner. But then I would say that as my work involves collecting and delivering for a large pallet network.
for one it would depend where them 5 pallets where going before you arrive at a price. hiring a taxi is the best option for shifting a few people, a coach is the best for load of people, the pallet networks are the taxis!!
if they had to run 3 trucks instead of 2 to the hub, i don’t think the increase in cost will price the pallet networks out of the game
stevieboy308:
damoq:
waynedl:
damoq:
Pimpdaddy:
I thought if you repositioned the depot network, utilised space/time (I.e empty running)a bit more it would use less than double the vehicles currently used. Maybe use longer trailers or even low deckers that run @ 4.0m. I don’t know, that’s just my crazy theory but ultimately it’d create jobs.It would create more jobs and require more trucks on the road. You can hardly charge a customer an extra 50 pence per pallet without them threatening to give their work to someone else. Could you imagine telling them you need to charge them an extra £50 per pallet to cover costs due to having to employ extra drivers and run extra trucks? Our DDs leave our yard at full capacity and return the same way, so no space left to utilise.
If everyone has the same space, then they’ll all be charging the same… Exactly like it is now
edited to add…
BUT, if you’ve been in a queue in 1 of the pallet hubs now, imagine what it’d be like with 70% more trucks in there
True, but that would mean the end of pallet networks as a cost effective means of transporting pallets. For example, it would cost nearly £500 to collect and deliver 5plts through a pallet network. That’s almost the same for a full load. DDs are therefore needed to transport small consignments of mixed pallets to hubs for onward delivery in a cost effective manner. But then I would say that as my work involves collecting and delivering for a large pallet network.
for one it would depend where them 5 pallets where going before you arrive at a price. hiring a taxi is the best option for shifting a few people, a coach is the best for load of people, the pallet networks are the taxis!!
if they had to run 3 trucks instead of 2 to the hub, i don’t think the increase in cost will price the pallet networks out of the game
But for Scottish operators running to the Hubs, which are mostly in the Midlands, each extra vehicle on the road would require 2 drivers as its a double manned operation. Yet more cost involved. Removing Double Deckers is just not justifiable I tell you.
Definatley need a 4m limit so we can have more trucks on the road, more jobs and longer queues. Drop the weights as well so no one can be overwieght by accident and that should create more jobs too. best we go back to 32 ton, oh and these trailers are too long too. Some corners are tight so we best go back to 35ft trailers in case some useless moron can’t get round the corner, 
then again we could just dish out points to the bridge bashers until these poor quality drivers are no longer on the road.
I better add that not every single bridge strike is the drivers fault so those that can prove it get no points.
damoq:
stevieboy308:
damoq:
waynedl:
damoq:
Pimpdaddy:
I thought if you repositioned the depot network, utilised space/time (I.e empty running)a bit more it would use less than double the vehicles currently used. Maybe use longer trailers or even low deckers that run @ 4.0m. I don’t know, that’s just my crazy theory but ultimately it’d create jobs.It would create more jobs and require more trucks on the road. You can hardly charge a customer an extra 50 pence per pallet without them threatening to give their work to someone else. Could you imagine telling them you need to charge them an extra £50 per pallet to cover costs due to having to employ extra drivers and run extra trucks? Our DDs leave our yard at full capacity and return the same way, so no space left to utilise.
If everyone has the same space, then they’ll all be charging the same… Exactly like it is now
edited to add…
BUT, if you’ve been in a queue in 1 of the pallet hubs now, imagine what it’d be like with 70% more trucks in there
True, but that would mean the end of pallet networks as a cost effective means of transporting pallets. For example, it would cost nearly £500 to collect and deliver 5plts through a pallet network. That’s almost the same for a full load. DDs are therefore needed to transport small consignments of mixed pallets to hubs for onward delivery in a cost effective manner. But then I would say that as my work involves collecting and delivering for a large pallet network.
for one it would depend where them 5 pallets where going before you arrive at a price. hiring a taxi is the best option for shifting a few people, a coach is the best for load of people, the pallet networks are the taxis!!
if they had to run 3 trucks instead of 2 to the hub, i don’t think the increase in cost will price the pallet networks out of the game
But for Scottish operators running to the Hubs, which are mostly in the Midlands, each extra vehicle on the road would require 2 drivers as its a double manned operation. Yet more cost involved. Removing Double Deckers is just not justifiable I tell you.
i’m not arsed either way on the two deck or not two deck front! but if they did do away with them, the pallet network game would still be on, even from scotchland
the extra driver you’re on about should add less than £2 per pallet
even with warnings we still manage to hit bridges, looks like they almost made it through, almost.
