Brexit stuff in one place [MERGED]

Monkey241:

Franglais:
Fiddle-players, Farmers, Fishers, Financiers, next? Steel?
ft.com/content/dc2af157-a42 … 28f9c70b2b

Looks like one Brexiteer was correct:
Patrick Minford who was in favour of Brexit (one of the few economists who was) said UK steel, farming etc would be hard hit. Looks like a Brexiteer was correct about summat.

Correct about summat?

Odd how if Remainers were so correct that they couldn’t formulate a winning argument…

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True.
Telling the truth: its all a “bit up and down”, and far from perfect didnt win as many votes as "sunlit uplands" "all gains with no downsides" "easiest deal in history" "we hold all the cards" "oven ready deal" etc etc. The argument didnt win did it?
Sometimes you get a persuasive salesman selling a crap product.
Tell people what they want to hear: You`re special, the world needs you, you will succeed against the odds, etc etc and guess what? They will agree.

Enjoy your Pyrrhic victory.

Monkey241:

Franglais:

msgyorkie:
No its behind a paywall. I have to go on the selected information in your post. “Patrick Minford who was in favour of Brexit (one of the few economists who was) said UK steel, farming etc would be hard hit.”
And so on limited info and knowing what your agenda is I have replied with the solid fact that UK steel has full order books

Point taken.
theguardian.com/business/20 … ies-warned
youtube.com/watch?v=qbHH-FsVEa4
youtube.com/watch?v=SQQyukKVJfI
walesonline.co.uk/news/poli … d-15323164

Yes, full order books today. But new suppliers could be available tomorrow, and they are cheaper. You ain`t thick, work it out.

Correct me if I’m wrong but it’s more a question of type and grade of steel.

We stopped competing in the steel mass market long ago…

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Currently we are still running behind the EU protective barriers, the Gov want to drop them.

Franglais:

Monkey241:

Franglais:
Fiddle-players, Farmers, Fishers, Financiers, next? Steel?
ft.com/content/dc2af157-a42 … 28f9c70b2b

Looks like one Brexiteer was correct:
Patrick Minford who was in favour of Brexit (one of the few economists who was) said UK steel, farming etc would be hard hit. Looks like a Brexiteer was correct about summat.

Correct about summat?

Odd how if Remainers were so correct that they couldn’t formulate a winning argument…

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True.
Telling the truth: its all a “bit up and down”, and far from perfect didnt win as many votes as "sunlit uplands" "all gains with no downsides" "easiest deal in history" "we hold all the cards" "oven ready deal" etc etc. The argument didnt win did it?
Sometimes you get a persuasive salesman selling a crap product.
Tell people what they want to hear: You`re special, the world needs you, you will succeed against the odds, etc etc and guess what? They will agree.

Enjoy your Pyrrhic victory.

You can’t even be honest about comparisons.
Remain argument was more ‘immediate recession’ than a bit up and down. [emoji16]

Can you explain Pyrhhic victory in context please?

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Franglais:

Monkey241:

Franglais:

msgyorkie:
No its behind a paywall. I have to go on the selected information in your post. “Patrick Minford who was in favour of Brexit (one of the few economists who was) said UK steel, farming etc would be hard hit.”
And so on limited info and knowing what your agenda is I have replied with the solid fact that UK steel has full order books

Point taken.
theguardian.com/business/20 … ies-warned
youtube.com/watch?v=qbHH-FsVEa4
youtube.com/watch?v=SQQyukKVJfI
walesonline.co.uk/news/poli … d-15323164

Yes, full order books today. But new suppliers could be available tomorrow, and they are cheaper. You ain`t thick, work it out.

Correct me if I’m wrong but it’s more a question of type and grade of steel.

We stopped competing in the steel mass market long ago…

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Currently we are still running behind the EU protective barriers, the Gov want to drop them.

But…those suppliers ARE available right now? Correct?

And were in March 16 (pre referendum) when the British steel industry was again in crisis (as opposed to burgeoning order books like now)

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Franglais:

Monkey241:

Franglais:
Fiddle-players, Farmers, Fishers, Financiers, next? Steel?
ft.com/content/dc2af157-a42 … 28f9c70b2b

Looks like one Brexiteer was correct:
Patrick Minford who was in favour of Brexit (one of the few economists who was) said UK steel, farming etc would be hard hit. Looks like a Brexiteer was correct about summat.

Correct about summat?

Odd how if Remainers were so correct that they couldn’t formulate a winning argument…

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True.
Telling the truth: its all a “bit up and down”, and far from perfect didnt win as many votes as "sunlit uplands" "all gains with no downsides" "easiest deal in history" "we hold all the cards" "oven ready deal" etc etc. The argument didnt win did it?
Sometimes you get a persuasive salesman selling a crap product.
Tell people what they want to hear: You`re special, the world needs you, you will succeed against the odds, etc etc and guess what? They will agree.

Enjoy your Pyrrhic victory.

The argument didn’t win [emoji1787]

Yes…it very much did. Largely because clowns like you and Hk reduce it to ‘all Brexiteers are thick’.

Now that is a winning formula [emoji6]

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Monkey241:
Yes…it very much did. Largely because clowns like you and Hk reduce it to ‘all Brexiteers are thick’.

Where have I called anyone thick?
Why do you resort to name calling others “clowns”? Why are you name calling?
Argue with facts, not petty name calling please.

Monkey241:
Currently we are still running behind the EU protective barriers, the Gov want to drop them.
But…those suppliers ARE available right now? Correct?

Not quite so. No.
Read the articles. Trade barriers exist at the moment so UK buyers cannot freely purchase those steels. The steels exist but they are not available

Monkey241:
You can’t even be honest about comparisons.
Remain argument was more ‘immediate recession’ than a bit up and down.

The remain argument as presented by pro Brexit sources certainly took that tone. Just as some rags suggest “all Remainers think Brexiteers are thick” as you seem happy to repeat, but that hardly makes for a cogent argument. Reported speech from a biased source without verbatim quotes is…what?
An immediate recession certainly was predicted by George Osbourne based on the assumption that article 50 would be immediately triggered. It wasn`t. Who else predicted such?
Are you basing “The remain argument” on the predictions of one person?

Monkey241:

anon84679660:

Monkey241:

anon84679660:
While brexitards keep waffling, we just keep highlighting, how brexitards have dammaged and keep dammaging the country

Permanent Brexit Problems Highlighted by Engineering Firm

It is being increasingly reported that small businesses are facing especially harsh impacts to their business from brexit. Ken Torres, an engineer, explains how his business is being put at risk through no fault of his own due to Borisn Johnson’s extreme tory brexit.

youtube.com/watch?v=_Kl2uV9xAtg

How to Judge Brexit a Success or Failure?

Like any project, brexit should have success and failure criteria. We’ve left the EU now, but the next general election will give us a chance to change our course again, hopefully away from Boris Johnson’s extreme tory brexit. But what are the failure standards for brexit? How should we judged whether or not the path we’ve taken is a success or failure in terms that everyone can agree on?

youtube.com/watch?v=JDzf9RIqgXE

The irony of someone who can barely spell insulting anyone else over intellect is delicious.

As for ‘Brexitard’ I thought we’d learned that such stereotyping was small minded?

I guess you’re the one that proves the point.

The irony is deep

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I understand your pain , Monkey, it must be very frustrating for you and your mates from club “B” , not to be able to post anything supporting Brexit, that would make sense.
The bad news is that your, and your mates pain isn’t going to be ending anytime soon, it’s just the beginning, the of the mother of all c.o.c.k ups is just starting to produce it’s unwanted babies.
There’s much more to come, until, in a few years time, you all are going to be beging the EU to accept little poor England back to the fold, where Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish, already back in, are going to be deciding whether to let you in or not.
Be nice to them, your future depends on them.

Take a look at the spelling, before Mazzer and the maoster arrive, they have been my most reliable spell checkers so far. You might be allowed to join the team, if you impress me with speed and dedication

Beging?

To be fair, your bizarre spelling almost takes attention from the absurdity of your argument…almost.

Let me know when you have anything cogent to offer.

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What has upset you this time so much, Monkey?
It looks to me like you are most interested in picking out spelling mistakes and not defending the failed Brexit project, or you have realised Brexit is a complete disaster and is going to be getting worst by the day, month, year, decade, and there’s no point to defend it anymore, just to post any to muddy the water.
If you are so easily distracted by spelling mistakes that you can’t come up with any sense making argument, you shouldn’t be posting.
I hope you are not a lorry driver, considering how easily you can be distracted, you would be a danger on public roads.

So, what’s your reply to the last video I posted.
UK farmers are being shafted by Brexit, aren’t they?
Another industry being destroyed.

Franglais:

Monkey241:
Yes…it very much did. Largely because clowns like you and Hk reduce it to ‘all Brexiteers are thick’.

Where have I called anyone thick?
Why do you resort to name calling others “clowns”? Why are you name calling?
Argue with facts, not petty name calling please.

Monkey241:
Currently we are still running behind the EU protective barriers, the Gov want to drop them.
But…those suppliers ARE available right now? Correct?

Not quite so. No.
Read the articles. Trade barriers exist at the moment so UK buyers cannot freely purchase those steels. The steels exist but they are not available

Monkey241:
You can’t even be honest about comparisons.
Remain argument was more ‘immediate recession’ than a bit up and down.

The remain argument as presented by pro Brexit sources certainly took that tone. Just as some rags suggest “all Remainers think Brexiteers are thick” as you seem happy to repeat, but that hardly makes for a cogent argument. Reported speech from a biased source without verbatim quotes is…what?
An immediate recession certainly was predicted by George Osbourne based on the assumption that article 50 would be immediately triggered. It wasn`t. Who else predicted such?
Are you basing “The remain argument” on the predictions of one person?

Did you read the comment about clowns like you and HK?

In case you missed it HK is very much of that ilk.

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anon84679660:

Monkey241:

anon84679660:

Monkey241:

anon84679660:
While brexitards keep waffling, we just keep highlighting, how brexitards have dammaged and keep dammaging the country

Permanent Brexit Problems Highlighted by Engineering Firm

It is being increasingly reported that small businesses are facing especially harsh impacts to their business from brexit. Ken Torres, an engineer, explains how his business is being put at risk through no fault of his own due to Borisn Johnson’s extreme tory brexit.

youtube.com/watch?v=_Kl2uV9xAtg

How to Judge Brexit a Success or Failure?

Like any project, brexit should have success and failure criteria. We’ve left the EU now, but the next general election will give us a chance to change our course again, hopefully away from Boris Johnson’s extreme tory brexit. But what are the failure standards for brexit? How should we judged whether or not the path we’ve taken is a success or failure in terms that everyone can agree on?

youtube.com/watch?v=JDzf9RIqgXE

The irony of someone who can barely spell insulting anyone else over intellect is delicious.

As for ‘Brexitard’ I thought we’d learned that such stereotyping was small minded?

I guess you’re the one that proves the point.

The irony is deep

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I understand your pain , Monkey, it must be very frustrating for you and your mates from club “B” , not to be able to post anything supporting Brexit, that would make sense.
The bad news is that your, and your mates pain isn’t going to be ending anytime soon, it’s just the beginning, the of the mother of all c.o.c.k ups is just starting to produce it’s unwanted babies.
There’s much more to come, until, in a few years time, you all are going to be beging the EU to accept little poor England back to the fold, where Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish, already back in, are going to be deciding whether to let you in or not.
Be nice to them, your future depends on them.

Take a look at the spelling, before Mazzer and the maoster arrive, they have been my most reliable spell checkers so far. You might be allowed to join the team, if you impress me with speed and dedication

Beging?

To be fair, your bizarre spelling almost takes attention from the absurdity of your argument…almost.

Let me know when you have anything cogent to offer.

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What has upset you this time so much, Monkey?
It looks to me like you are most interested in picking out spelling mistakes and not defending the failed Brexit project, or you have realised Brexit is a complete disaster and is going to be getting worst by the day, month, year, decade, and there’s no point to defend it anymore, just to post any to muddy the water.
If you are so easily distracted by spelling mistakes that you can’t come up with any sense making argument, you shouldn’t be posting.
I hope you are not a lorry driver, considering how easily you can be distracted, you would be a danger on public roads.

So, what’s your reply to the last video I posted.
UK farmers are being shafted by Brexit, aren’t they?
Another industry being destroyed.

Spelling is an indicator of your calibre…supported by such statements as ‘failed Brexit project’

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msn.com/en-gb/money/other/g … d=msedgntp

Paying £ 120 000 pa

I don’t quite get the idea that Remainers are posting articles and videos with some sort of expectation that Brexiteers have to respond and defend something?

The UK held a referendum. The UK left the EU because it was the will of the people, for good or bad. We have to all make the best of it and nobody said there wouldn’t be hard yards in the process.

If Remainers want to blame someone, perhaps David Cameron?

It’s a job vacancy for a person to prove why Brexit was a good idea… Paying £ 120 000 pa … and they want a deputy too . That’s all.

As a French resident i did not get a vote ( even though Brexit is stupid ) . I try to be informative and leave the cat fighting to others.

Noremac:
The UK held a referendum. The UK left the EU because it was the will of the people, for good or bad. We have to all make the best of it and nobody said there wouldn’t be hard yards in the process.

If people voted based on blatant lies, it is something everyone should be worried about. Taking it on all fours means it will only get worse for democracy.

milodon:

Noremac:
The UK held a referendum. The UK left the EU because it was the will of the people, for good or bad. We have to all make the best of it and nobody said there wouldn’t be hard yards in the process.

If people voted based on blatant lies, it is something everyone should be worried about. Taking it on all fours means it will only get worse for democracy.

A bit like a General Election then, Milodon
vote for us we will do …,
we will cut …,
we will increase …
you will be better off with us than you are with the shower of £hite that are currently in power

and then …>>>>>>>>>>>>>

NOTHING !!!
SAME MEAT DIFFERENT GRAVY

Keep on moaning be you Brexiteer or Remainer

NOTHING , but NOTHING is going to change

You/We are all lied to, whatever country we live in, at every General/National election
Nothing will ever change :unamused: :unamused: :unamused: :unamused: :unamused:

No need to post all the reportage from media, most of which IMO is claptrap,
NI false border,
shortage in shops of European goods,
bare shelves,
problems exporting/importing,
long queues at the ports.
Oh yeah !
Whatever happened to the threat of massive queues at the ports and the Shuttle?,
Kent becoming a “LORRY PARK”?
The M20 becoming a lorry park ?

There are and will be for a while, problems.

But STOP going on !!!

> IT IS DONE :exclamation: :exclamation: :exclamation: :exclamation:

Noremac:
I don’t quite get the idea that Remainers are posting articles and videos with some sort of expectation that Brexiteers have to respond and defend something?

The UK held a referendum. The UK left the EU because it was the will of the people, for good or bad. We have to all make the best of it and nobody said there wouldn’t be hard yards in the process.

If Remainers want to blame someone, perhaps David Cameron?

Noremac, I do not expect Bexiters to be defending Brexit, anybody with a half a functioning brain can clearly see what a disastern it has been and will be.
The videos and articles I post are simply to inform people in here, of the currect Brexit developments.
I urge anybody not interested in Brexit, not to read and not to reply, to these articles, vidoes, these only for people interested in reading them, people with open minds.
Talibanised Brexiters are not the ones I post these things for.

… and it continues
Brexit , the gift that just keeps on giving. Australia gifted this time

Australia to enjoy exports boost six times greater than UK from trade deal, experts say

Australia will enjoy an exports boost six times greater than the UK from the controversial trade deal agreed between the two countries, experts say.

UK sales will grow by just 0.35 per cent from the agreement, the UK Trade Policy Observatory (UKTPO) forecasts – compared with a 2.2 per cent jump for Australia’s businesses.

Its analysis also predicts a puny output increase for the UK of 0.07 per cent, less than half the 0.16 per cent stimulus it predicts for Australia.

“These are very small numbers,” said Professor Michael Gasiorek, director of the observatory at the University of Sussex, adding: “We see a bigger positive effect for Australia than for the UK.”

The conclusions come after the government admitted the average household would be just £1.20 a year better off from the deal, which would boost GDP by only 0.02 per cent over 15 years.

Prof Gasiorek also warned that agricultural trade with the EU could slump by more than any increase with Australia – if relaxing rules on food standards triggers a clash with Brussels.

Announcing the deal last week, trade secretary Liz Truss repeatedly refused to guarantee that meat treated with antibiotics, or pesticides, will continue to be barred.

msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/a … li=BBoPWjQ

pierrot 14:

milodon:

Noremac:
The UK held a referendum. The UK left the EU because it was the will of the people, for good or bad. We have to all make the best of it and nobody said there wouldn’t be hard yards in the process.

If people voted based on blatant lies, it is something everyone should be worried about. Taking it on all fours means it will only get worse for democracy.

A bit like a General Election then, Milodon
vote for us we will do …,
we will cut …,
we will increase …
you will be better off with us than you are with the shower of £hite that are currently in power

and then …>>>>>>>>>>>>>

NOTHING !!!
SAME MEAT DIFFERENT GRAVY

Keep on moaning be you Brexiteer or Remainer

NOTHING , but NOTHING is going to change

You/We are all lied to, whatever country we live in, at every General/National election
Nothing will ever change :unamused: :unamused: :unamused: :unamused: :unamused:

No need to post all the reportage from media, most of which IMO is claptrap,
NI false border,
shortage in shops of European goods,
bare shelves,
problems exporting/importing,
long queues at the ports.
Oh yeah !
Whatever happened to the threat of massive queues at the ports and the Shuttle?,
Kent becoming a “LORRY PARK”?
The M20 becoming a lorry park ?

There are and will be for a while, problems.

But STOP going on !!!

> IT IS DONE :exclamation: :exclamation: :exclamation: :exclamation:

Massive +1 and then some. :smiley:

robroy:

pierrot 14:

milodon:

Noremac:
The UK held a referendum. The UK left the EU because it was the will of the people, for good or bad. We have to all make the best of it and nobody said there wouldn’t be hard yards in the process.

If people voted based on blatant lies, it is something everyone should be worried about. Taking it on all fours means it will only get worse for democracy.

A bit like a General Election then, Milodon
vote for us we will do …,
we will cut …,
we will increase …
you will be better off with us than you are with the shower of £hite that are currently in power

and then …>>>>>>>>>>>>>

NOTHING !!!
SAME MEAT DIFFERENT GRAVY

Keep on moaning be you Brexiteer or Remainer

NOTHING , but NOTHING is going to change

You/We are all lied to, whatever country we live in, at every General/National election
Nothing will ever change :unamused: :unamused: :unamused: :unamused: :unamused:

No need to post all the reportage from media, most of which IMO is claptrap,
NI false border,
shortage in shops of European goods,
bare shelves,
problems exporting/importing,
long queues at the ports.
Oh yeah !
Whatever happened to the threat of massive queues at the ports and the Shuttle?,
Kent becoming a “LORRY PARK”?
The M20 becoming a lorry park ?

There are and will be for a while, problems.

But STOP going on !!!

> IT IS DONE :exclamation: :exclamation: :exclamation: :exclamation:

Massive +1 and then some. :smiley:

Thank you Rob,

it’s getting on my ■■■■ now, some of the BS that is being posted and quoted on this thread :exclamation:
There are now other threads on TNUK blaming Bexit for driver shortages of companies that no longer have the EU drivers,
Companies that may go under because all the PL RO BG drivers can’t work here anymore,
GOOD, REAP WHAT YOU SOW !
these big companies have manipulated the workforce for their own benefits AND NOW…
allegedly, are suffering because they can’t
do the deliveries,
can’t honor contracts,
haven’t the personnel to drive their vehicles

Oh well NEVER MIND

This thread has given me a brilliant idea. :sunglasses:
If/when England get kicked out of Euro 2020, I’m planning to start a 10 page thread whinging on and sending links on why we should have won it,.where we went wrong, and who was to blame. :bulb:
I’m confident that when UEFA read on Trucknet how a load of truck drivers are so unhappy with the results, that they will have a full replay of the whole competition. :bulb:

:laughing: :laughing:

robroy:
This thread has given me a brilliant idea. :sunglasses:
If/when England get kicked out of Euro 2020, I’m planning to start a 10 page thread whinging on and sending links on why we should have won it,.where we went wrong, and who was to blame. :bulb:
I’m confident that when UEFA read on Trucknet how a load of truck drivers are so unhappy with the results, that they will have a full replay of the whole competition. :bulb:

:laughing: :laughing:

^^^^^^
:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

I presume you meant knocked out and not kicked out Rob

But I’m with you on this one. Southgate is definitely selling you a lie :slight_smile: :slight_smile: