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robroy:

Franglais:

tmcassett:
I said I’m not interested in point scoring regarding Brexit

Hmmm
Do you use the same pub as RobRoy?
The “Fox and Grapes”?
:smiley:

Is that some random boozer, or is it an Aesop reference.?

I’m more of a Wetherspoons type of guy really.

As for literature,.I tend to lean more towards the works of Kipling.
Not only did he write good stories, but as a sideline he made exceedingly good cakes. :smiley:

(49 btw)

You`ve used “sour grapes” multiple times, I assumed you knew the origins?

Of course (in view of the fable) you and Tmcassette are shy about wanting to boast of the benefits of Brexit.
Of course you don`t want to score points…

Keep repeating that, and youll doubtless convince yourself thats true.

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Re: Trade deal with the US after Brexit
Postby robroy » 04 Jun 2019, 19:36

So here’s another ‘‘Articulate intelligent Brexiteer response’’ for you remoaners.
Sounds like one or two on here are a bit miffed that they did not get their own way…(a bit reminiscent of my youngest grand daughter’s reactions if I’m honest. :unamused: )
It’s no good trying to offend belittle and patronise those who actually DID get their own way,… it just comes across as a bit tragic. :bulb:

Let’s just wait and see how things go eh?..give it to this time next year say,.and let’s leave out the embarrasing sour grapes and negative non substance speculations eh?

Well, that`s a bit over a year.
How is the UK / USA trade deal going?

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OwenMoney:
Just to ■■■■ into your love - fest for a mo…

Why is it ok for the unelected Sunak, without a mandate from the voting populace to say it’s a good thing for Northern Irish exporters to have easier access to the EU markets than an exporter from the rest of the UK ?
Why is it ok for Johnson to tell the EU to admit Ukraine to the bloc, giving their citizens right’s we have had taken away ?
I wanted to retire to the Costa del Sol not the Costa packet Skegness

(The EDL are just the KKK but with not so good Persil) Nasty nasty nasty

Ah, the good old EDL.
Lead by a convicted fraudster, illegal immigrant, and asylum seeker.
And it`s all the same person!

Un…!!!..believable that some believe anything said by him.

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Franglais:
Re: Trade deal with the US after Brexit
Postby robroy » 04 Jun 2019, 19:36

Well, that`s a bit over a year.
How is the UK / USA trade deal going?

I’d be more concerned at the amount of time you must have spent scrolling through Robroy’s posts just to find something from 3 years ago to use as a weapon to prove your point.

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tmcassett:

Franglais:
Re: Trade deal with the US after Brexit
Postby robroy » 04 Jun 2019, 19:36

Well, that`s a bit over a year.
How is the UK / USA trade deal going?

I’d be more concerned at the amount of time you must have spent scrolling through Robroy’s posts just to find something from 3 years ago to use as a weapon to prove your point.

So, once again a post about my posting style…
Nothing relevant to the thread title of Brexit?
Nothing to argue against the point being made?

If it took me ten seconds, or ten hours to find that post, how does that effect its relevancy? Seeking to divert attention from the issue, Brexit, to the poster is an *ad hominen* attack; seeking to subvert an argument by introducing irrelevancies is possibly best described as a non sequiter. Or, if you prefer plain English as I do: youre talking Bollix.
You don`t have anything to offer to the thread subject, but just keep whinging on trying to stop those of us who do have an interest in the subject.

Want to say summat relevant? Please do. I`m here for the argument/discussion.

Dont like the subject of Brexit? Ignore it! Is that so *very* hard to understand?? I repeat, Im here, on the Brexit thread, to discuss Brexit.

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Franglais:
but just keep whinging on.

It’s funny you should mention that …

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Franglais:
If it took me ten seconds, or ten hours to find that post, how does that effect it`s relevancy?

Still a bit sad though isn’t it.

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Franglais:
Re: Trade deal with the US after Brexit
Postby robroy » 04 Jun 2019, 19:36

So here’s another ‘‘Articulate intelligent Brexiteer response’’ for you remoaners.
Sounds like one or two on here are a bit miffed that they did not get their own way…(a bit reminiscent of my youngest grand daughter’s reactions if I’m honest. :unamused: )
It’s no good trying to offend belittle and patronise those who actually DID get their own way,… it just comes across as a bit tragic. :bulb:

Let’s just wait and see how things go eh?..give it to this time next year say,.and let’s leave out the embarrasing sour grapes and negative non substance speculations eh?

Well, that`s a bit over a year.
How is the UK / USA trade deal going?

Ffs mate you are now trawling through.my posts from 2019? :open_mouth:
And at the same time whinging on about people getting ■■■■■■ off over your ‘posting style’…fyi it ain’t your style, in fact it’s actually just YOU. :bulb:
So while you have spent your Sat night doing ‘essential research’ into people’s opinions about Brexit,.I’ve just came back in from a night out socialising with friends,.so I’m having a coffee and checking out Trucknet.
Unbelievable. :laughing: :laughing:

Ffs Franglais mate seriously…get a ■■■■ life. :unamused:
You’re going from obsessed bore and moving into complete sad bast territory…how’s that for an opinion on your …quote…‘‘posting style’’ ?

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tmcassett:

Franglais:
Re: Trade deal with the US after Brexit
Postby robroy » 04 Jun 2019, 19:36

Well, that`s a bit over a year.
How is the UK / USA trade deal going?

I’d be more concerned at the amount of time you must have spent scrolling through Robroy’s posts just to find something from 3 years ago to use as a weapon to prove your point.

I’m flattered actually at the effort, think I’m becoming ‘numero tre’ in his list of obsessions. :laughing:

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robroy:

Franglais:
Re: Trade deal with the US after Brexit
Postby robroy » 04 Jun 2019, 19:36

So here’s another ‘‘Articulate intelligent Brexiteer response’’ for you remoaners.
Sounds like one or two on here are a bit miffed that they did not get their own way…(a bit reminiscent of my youngest grand daughter’s reactions if I’m honest. :unamused: )
It’s no good trying to offend belittle and patronise those who actually DID get their own way,… it just comes across as a bit tragic. :bulb:

Let’s just wait and see how things go eh?..give it to this time next year say,.and let’s leave out the embarrasing sour grapes and negative non substance speculations eh?

Well, that`s a bit over a year.
How is the UK / USA trade deal going?

Ffs mate you are now trawling through.my posts from 2019? :open_mouth:
And at the same time whinging on about people getting ■■■■■■ off over your ‘posting style’…fyi it ain’t your style, in fact it’s actually just YOU. :bulb:
So while you have spent your Sat night doing ‘essential research’ into people’s opinions about Brexit,.I’ve just came back in from a night out socialising with friends,.so I’m having a coffee and checking out Trucknet.
Unbelievable. :laughing: :laughing:

Ffs Franglais mate seriously…get a [zb] life. :unamused:
You’re going from obsessed bore and moving into complete sad bast territory…how’s that for an opinion on your …quote…‘‘posting style’’ ?

So once again…
A comment about me and my posting style…who is the obsessive here? I wasn`t commenting about you, but about your post.
And clearly no idea about how to use a “Search” function on a computer.

How about stopping the personal trolling?
Discuss the subject, not the poster.

How about addressing the topic of the Brexit thread?
Any comment about how it`s all going?

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tmcassett:

Franglais:
If it took me ten seconds, or ten hours to find that post, how does that effect it`s relevancy?

Still a bit sad though isn’t it.

Brexit content? Zero.

Waste of time, merely to try to score a point.
I daresay you might score many points off of me. I bet not many will be on the Brexit subject.

Go on, this is the Brexit thread. Give it a go.
Join the other hundreds on here, ganging up and drowning out all the Brexit negatives with their stories of the many Brexit positives.

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robroy:

Franglais:
Re: Trade deal with the US after Brexit
Postby robroy » 04 Jun 2019, 19:36

So here’s another ‘‘Articulate intelligent Brexiteer response’’ for you remoaners.
Sounds like one or two on here are a bit miffed that they did not get their own way…(a bit reminiscent of my youngest grand daughter’s reactions if I’m honest. :unamused: )
It’s no good trying to offend belittle and patronise those who actually DID get their own way,… it just comes across as a bit tragic. :bulb:

Let’s just wait and see how things go eh?..give it to this time next year say,.and let’s leave out the embarrasing sour grapes and negative non substance speculations eh?

Well, that`s a bit over a year.
How is the UK / USA trade deal going?

Ffs mate you are now trawling through.my posts from 2019? :open_mouth:
And at the same time whinging on about people getting ■■■■■■ off over your ‘posting style’…fyi it ain’t your style, in fact it’s actually just YOU. :bulb:
So while you have spent your Sat night doing ‘essential research’ into people’s opinions about Brexit,.I’ve just came back in from a night out socialising with friends,.so I’m having a coffee and checking out Trucknet.
Unbelievable. :laughing: :laughing:

Ffs Franglais mate seriously…get a [zb] life. :unamused:
You’re going from obsessed bore and moving into complete sad bast territory…how’s that for an opinion on your …quote…‘‘posting style’’ ?

So?
How well is the UK/USA deal going?
How well are post Brexit trade deals going?

Too shy to discuss the thread subject?

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Oh Jesus H Christ man…do you never let up?? :unamused:
Trolling eh?..so everybody who comes on here now ((and the numbers are increasing) who comments and criticises your bizzare fascinations, and I’ll say again…obsessions., on one or two ‘done to death’ subjects, is now ‘trolling you’,

So now your tactic is to play the ‘victim’ card,…and not for the first time incidentally when I think back,… but unlike you I neither have the time, inclination nor interest, nor can be actually arsed, to check the posts and dates and times just so I can say …‘‘I was right’’. :unamused:

So I came on here this morning,.feeling a bit ‘morning after the night before’, thinking, …
‘‘Maybe I should not have posted on TN with a few pints on board last night, maybe I’ll scrub that post, I do seem to be having a few pops at old Frangers and his endless crusade in life to tell us all what a mistake we all made, and if only the UK had listened to HIM,…and he does get a bit upset when nobody else (that ain’t got MP after his name) dedicates as much time from their lives complaining about Brexit as he does’’

But ffs, you’re relentless man, so.I stand by everything I said last night.

So I’ll humour you I’ll discuss my up to date view on Brexit and your precious thread seeing as you requested it.
Here goes. :smiley:

The thread…
I just come on here out of amazement and amusement really, and not primarily to wind you up as such, maybe even to provide a counterbalance to give you an inkling as to how you come across on this subject that is dead and gone and in the past.
The bitterness the utter frustration, the bile, the anger and all the rest if it is…
Well basically bloody funny tbh. :laughing:

As for my views on Brexit and how things have gone…

I have said a few times…In my view pretty dodgy most of the time.
But there is a blindingly obvious reason for that…again I’ve said a couple of times, how tf did you miss it btw whilst trawling through all my posts for examples ■■ :unamused:

Wtf did you expect,.a smooth well planned transition?..when most of the people in the ruling party did not want it, nor did they actually expect it…including many of those who actually told us they DID want it, proving you can never fully trust any politicians. :bulb:

They were so arrogant to think that the ‘plebs’ would just trust Cameron’s negotiated path and ‘second to none’ deal that he confidently and arrogantly gambled his premiership on it and lost, whilst taking for granted that we would all just ‘go with it’.

History albeit recent, tells us they all got the shock of their lives at the result…but were faced with the dilemna forced on them by the rule of democracy to carry on with the facade of self achievement and go through the motions,. and as it turned out… done in a half arsed and ‘keeping up appearnces’ type of way…

I have used the football analogy before (as you will have noticed in your trawling through all my posts campaign :smiley: ) about Alan Shearer getting the job of PR man for Sunderland FC, it is never going to work nor run smooth…exactly the same scenario as the Tories (having to) promote and lay out the ins and outs of Brexit, but making the best of what THEY see as a bad job, that the majority of the country wanted …size of majority being irrelevant before you jump in.

Just to add …far as I recall the referendum was about 8 years ago? ,
It is now an event in History…a bit like the Magna Carta, or have you also got a beef with some of that. :smiley:

It’s a similar situation with the Scottish independence, the ones who did not get their own way want another referendum, and presumably another and another until they get what THEY want, but as in Brexit Frangers, it don’t work like that mate unfortunately for you.

So ffs dry your eyes, put your bottom lip back in place, pick up your toys, and do what the rest of us do…just move on,.and get on with it,.as like every bloody thing else in life and aspects of life, you sum up the situations that are chucked at you, good and bad, and…ADAPT and REACT. and just get on with life. :bulb:…and take that as my answer to your ‘this deal and that ■■■■ deal’ you mention.I basically have no say nor control so I’ll concentrate and worry about stuff that I can actually have a say in.in my life.

Btw.footnote …that will be around no 49 on your list of keeping track of my Brexit related posts, or is that a new subsection/category with it being a non trolling (or dare I say) non bullying , serious post, thus becoming number I in new category.
Please let me know as I know these details are important to you ,.and also how many comments I’ve made to you on your other favourite subject…Covid… :wink: :laughing:

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robroy:
Oh Jesus H Christ man…do you never let up?? :unamused:
Trolling eh?..so everybody who comes on here now ((and the numbers are increasing) who comments and criticises your bizzare fascinations, and I’ll say again…obsessions., on one or two ‘done to death’ subjects, is now ‘trolling you’,

———lots of writing I’ve not read———

Btw.footnote …that will be around no 49 on your list of keeping track of my Brexit related posts, or is that a new subsection/category with it being a non trolling (or dare I say) non bullying , serious post, thus becoming number I in new category.
Please let me know as I know these details are important to you ,.and also how many comments I’ve made to you on your other favourite subject…Covid… :wink: :laughing:

To be fair it works both ways. He never lets up because you (and many others) never let up. I’m as guilty of this as anyone with CF so no judgement. But you can’t be determined to have the last word then get uppity when others are exactly the same :wink: If you want a thread to die just don’t reply. Tho this contentious topic will never die.

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switchlogic:

robroy:
Oh Jesus H Christ man…do you never let up?? :unamused:
Trolling eh?..so everybody who comes on here now ((and the numbers are increasing) who comments and criticises your bizzare fascinations, and I’ll say again…obsessions., on one or two ‘done to death’ subjects, is now ‘trolling you’,

———lots of writing I’ve not read———

Btw.footnote …that will be around no 49 on your list of keeping track of my Brexit related posts, or is that a new subsection/category with it being a non trolling (or dare I say) non bullying , serious post, thus becoming number I in new category.
Please let me know as I know these details are important to you ,.and also how many comments I’ve made to you on your other favourite subject…Covid… :wink: :laughing:

To be fair it works both ways. He never lets up because you (and many others) never let up. I’m as guilty of this as anyone with CF so no judgement. But you can’t be determined to have the last word then get uppity when others are exactly the same :wink: If you want a thread to die just don’t reply. Tho this contentious topic will never die.

Yep fair comment, you are right.
Although I try not to take this forum toooo serious :smiley: , maybe I inadvertently approach it as a metaphor for real life :smiley: , in the respect of the way I was taught and brought up.

My Dad always told me…‘Always get the first punch in Rob,.don’t.wait to be punched first’’ and my Mam…‘Always have the last word in an argument’’ so that’s the way I roll…maybe unfortunately. :smiley:

So maybe a lethal combination which manifests it’s self on here. :blush:

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robroy:
maybe even to provide a counterbalance to give you an inkling as to how you come across on this subject

I repeat: I don`t care “how I come across”. That is your obsession, not mine.

robroy:
Just to add …far as I recall the referendum was about 8 years ago?

Correct referendum 2016.
But.

robroy:
Wtf did you expect,.a smooth well planned transition?..when most of the people in the ruling party did not want it, nor did they actually expect it…including many of those who actually told us they DID want it, proving you can never fully trust any politicians

Total Nonsense !
It wasnt Cameron nor May who got us the Brexit we have. Werent you aware of the General Election in 2019? That brought Johnson and a Tory party manifesto including “get Brexit done”. All of whose MPs had to agree to that.
Don`t try gas-lighting us.

The Brexit we have was Johnsons "oven ready deal" which *still* hasnt been fully implemented!
Anyone saying "its all over and done with" is a liar or a fool. Any who claim to know the situation, and fall for that line are fools. The NI protocol is still in the headlines. The exit deal is being re-assessed in 2026, we dont have the great new deals promised by (and let me stress this) those in Government at the time, not by some random bunch of saboteurs.
The deal was made by those who held the reins of power. Those who wanted Brexit. NO one to blame except themselves if it went (as it did) ■■■■ up.
Maybe their whinging has fooled you, yes “its all Jeremy Corbyns fault” etc but the fault lies squarely with the Johnson camp.

robroy:
.just move on,.and get on with it,.as like every bloody thing else in life and aspects of life, you sum up the situations that are chucked at you, good and bad, and…ADAPT and REACT.

Make your mind up! “Move on” or “react”. ?
We have been sold a bundle of lies in what Brexit would be like: I choose to be annoyed about that.
You apparently think that “all politicians are the same” and so just accept the nasty bunch we have at the moment.

Personally,
I get annoyed at those who tell me lies,
I get annoyed at those who take for a fool,
I get annoyed at those who take my friends and fellow citizens for fools.

If you arent annoyed by these things, Ill send you a PM. I know of really nice bridge for sale…honest…

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switchlogic:

robroy:
Oh Jesus H Christ man…do you never let up?? :unamused:
Trolling eh?..so everybody who comes on here now ((and the numbers are increasing) who comments and criticises your bizzare fascinations, and I’ll say again…obsessions., on one or two ‘done to death’ subjects, is now ‘trolling you’,

———lots of writing I’ve not read———

Btw.footnote …that will be around no 49 on your list of keeping track of my Brexit related posts, or is that a new subsection/category with it being a non trolling (or dare I say) non bullying , serious post, thus becoming number I in new category.
Please let me know as I know these details are important to you ,.and also how many comments I’ve made to you on your other favourite subject…Covid… :wink: :laughing:

To be fair it works both ways. He never lets up because you (and many others) never let up. I’m as guilty of this as anyone with CF so no judgement. But you can’t be determined to have the last word then get uppity when others are exactly the same :wink: If you want a thread to die just don’t reply. Tho this contentious topic will never die.

"never lets up" what? Talking about Brexit? On the Brexit thread? "To be fair" the thread title kinda gives it away doesnt it? :smiley:

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Franglais:

Narc:
Why do remainers not understand that being in the EU means eventually there will be a one world government run by horrible WEF type knob heads. The problems that are occurring now are without a doubt being controlled by the eu. Illegal boat people are coming from the EU and our arsey neighbours France (who we have never got on with) they are behind it all so stop blaming brexit it is pathetic. You remain fanatics lost and are nothing but gullible bores.

Before Brexit we could, and did, return some immigrants to France under the Dublin agreement. Now we can`t.
All signed away by Johnson, and the Brexiteers.

Apart from Ukranians, the UK received in 2022 asylum applications from about 84.400 people. France 137,500 and Germany over 217,700.
They aren`t all coming over here. Most stay in the EU.

The gullible ones are those who repeat the lies of incompetent Gov ministers and the lies of wealthy press barons.

We dont have a government of WEF knob-heads. We do have a Gov of lying, cheating, avaricious, knob-heads who arent WEF.
Wonderful.

Here is one recently. Even Nick Ferrari calls out his blatant lie.
youtube.com/watch?v=0oaxdRvZ–s

You need help for this obsession of posting ■■■■■■■■ drivel in all of your responses.
Whatever country you are in please seek help, we left and it takes a hell of a long time to unravel from such a heinous organisation like the corrupt EU.
You want some foreign ■■■■■ to run our country, how sad are you.

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Franglais:

robroy:
maybe even to provide a counterbalance to give you an inkling as to how you come across on this subject

I repeat: I don`t care “how I come across”. That is your obsession, not mine.

robroy:
Just to add …far as I recall the referendum was about 8 years ago?

Correct referendum 2016.
But.

robroy:
Wtf did you expect,.a smooth well planned transition?..when most of the people in the ruling party did not want it, nor did they actually expect it…including many of those who actually told us they DID want it, proving you can never fully trust any politicians

Total Nonsense !
It wasnt Cameron nor May who got us the Brexit we have. Werent you aware of the General Election in 2019? That brought Johnson and a Tory party manifesto including “get Brexit done”. All of whose MPs had to agree to that.
Don`t try gas-lighting us.

The Brexit we have was Johnsons "oven ready deal" which *still* hasnt been fully implemented!
Anyone saying "its all over and done with" is a liar or a fool. Any who claim to know the situation, and fall for that line are fools. The NI protocol is still in the headlines. The exit deal is being re-assessed in 2026, we dont have the great new deals promised by (and let me stress this) those in Government at the time, not by some random bunch of saboteurs.
The deal was made by those who held the reins of power. Those who wanted Brexit. NO one to blame except themselves if it went (as it did) ■■■■ up.
Maybe their whinging has fooled you, yes “its all Jeremy Corbyns fault” etc but the fault lies squarely with the Johnson camp.

robroy:
.just move on,.and get on with it,.as like every bloody thing else in life and aspects of life, you sum up the situations that are chucked at you, good and bad, and…ADAPT and REACT.

Make your mind up! “Move on” or “react”. ?
We have been sold a bundle of lies in what Brexit would be like: I choose to be annoyed about that.
You apparently think that “all politicians are the same” and so just accept the nasty bunch we have at the moment.

Personally,
I get annoyed at those who tell me lies,
I get annoyed at those who take for a fool,
I get annoyed at those who take my friends and fellow citizens for fools.

If you arent annoyed by these things, Ill send you a PM. I know of really nice bridge for sale…honest…

Franglais, you’re actually ranting mate…calm yourself down ffs. ,.you’re embarrassing yourself :unamused:

You are an obvious authority on all this, but am I wrong ?
I think not…,.did Cameron not promise a referendum, and then did everything in his power to determine the vote result that the Tories really wanted… but did not get. :laughing:
No I ain’t wrong am I.

So I’m.a liar and a fool now then…as well as a troll. :smiley:
Oh dear.

Also to clarify…‘moving on’ is actually reacting in this context.

As for the rest of your verbal excrement, Johnson,.gas lighting,.NI protocol.,.Jeremy ■■■■ Corbyn etc etc …and me responding to it … ?
CBA.I’m off out for a meal with my wife. :sunglasses:
Happy Easter…just you carry on…quote ‘‘Geting annoyed’’ :unamused:

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robroy:
I think not…,.did Cameron not promise a referendum, and then did everything in his power to determine the vote result that the Tories really wanted… but did not get.
No I ain’t wrong am I.

Correct. Cameron gave us the referendum.
Then there was a couple of changes of PM, and an election.
It was a new Gov headed by someone called Boris Johnson (who was vocal proponent of Brexit) that negotiated a deal and gave us Brexit.
Yes, he and his cronies do blame everyone except themselves for the current debacle, but anyone who has any interest in the subject can see that he had a strong majority in Parliament, “get Brexit done” was in his party manifesto, and any failings are due to him.