Narc:
I think Franglais mum caught him posting [zb] on here over Christmas and removed his internet…
Well.I’ve put the bait out,.and we all know he can never usually resist me. 
robroy:
For all the pro EU usual whingers on here…
youtu.be/7nwyaDcc8-oSNIP*
So the crap choice for the next election is this.
Keep the totally bloody awful Tory government, and maybe pay the price of losing the NHS into that bargain, with their concious (and obvious) efforts to get you to go into private healthcare.
Or…
Vote in Labour who are totally pro EU, (despite the official line of ‘going with the majority’
).with all the sh.storm that will bring, and possibly have a re run of the legacy of the last Labiur govt who almost made us bankrupt.
You decide.
The “last Labour government”, was 13 years ago… replaced by those financially saffy Tories
and those Tories bled us dry for ten years and still increased lending and the national debt, and then, the Tories gave us Dizzy Lizzy, who gave us Kamikwasi who single handedly tanked our economy, and the value of the Pound, within a week…
As we’re talking politics, I have not followed it for a few days, I understand that the leader of the conservative party was sacked. For failing to pay his taxes. After clinging on to his job, Boris stylee, for a week, despite having admited himself that he was a tax evader. Boris, is not even pretending to be an MP anymore, sticking up two fingers to the electorate, whilst galivanting around the world, raking in the cash for speaking and waffling engagements, whilst still being paid as an MP. Does anybody know what Matt ■■■■■■■ is up to now? Dizzy Lizzy? The rest of tories are either under investigation for bullying, lying, thieving or leaking, or have already been found guilty of such. Scumbags. simple as that. Scum.
There isn’t a single decent person left in the conservative party. Granted, Labour ain’t much beter, but the tories, realising that they are comprehsively finished, are now taking what they can, whilst burning down the country. The tories are now a danger to the national, and financial security of this country, and need to be stoppped. as quick as possible. If they are allowed another year in power, they will finish this country off.
Hahaha Rob the Tory voter blaming everyone else again when as expected it went pear shaped.
You won get over it.
Darkside:
Hahaha Rob the Tory voter blaming everyone else again when as expected it went pear shaped.You won get over it.
How predictable eh?
You bite everytime mate.
(Quite happy with winning btw/fyi 
)
Edit…oh Aye…and WELL over it too.
Just to reiterate and clarify for the hard of thinking.
It was always going to go ‘pear shaped’ for the reasons I have pointed out.
Anybody with half a brain knew that from day 1 of Brexit.
If the establishment had been pro Brexit, we’d be in political Nirvana now…ok that’s an exaggeration obviously, but you get my drift.
I have always said this.
My point was just confirming what Farage said and implied. 
Anyhoo…CBA anymore the game starts soon and I’m waiting for wife to rock up. 
robroy:
Just to reiterate and clarify for the hard of thinking.
It was always going to go ‘pear shaped’ for the reasons I have pointed out.
Anybody with half a brain knew that from day 1 of Brexit
If the establishment had been pro Brexit, we’d be in political Nirvana now…ok that’s an exaggeration obviously, but you get my drift.I have always said this.
My point was just confirming what Farage said and implied.
Anyhoo…CBA anymore the game starts soon and I’m waiting for wife to rock up.
It was people with half a brain that were conned by the lies so yes, anyone with half a brain would agree with you. Anyway you got your wish last night with your party voting to stop strike action by unions so maybe all isn’t lost on you and your posh mates.
It’s half time so I’ll indulge you.
My mates have been called lots of things.
But ‘posh’ is deffo a unique first.
Love the way you call them ‘MY’ party. …what was the alternative at the time just remind me…oh aye Jeremy ■■■■ Corbyn.
Look mate,.I’m one of yer ‘floating voters’, my family have always been devout Labour, but it’s like the local chippy thing, if it was once the best chippy in the area you don’t keep going there when it’s been taken over by a bunch of chancers with no resemblance to the last owners.
Torys are a bunch of wonkers at the moment I get it but I’d vote for the National.■■■■ Socialists if I thought they are going to do a good job at the time.
Get Angela Rayner in charge of the Labour Party,.somebody I can relate to on my level, not the ex QC Keir Starmer ,.and I’ll vote Labour.
I’m.quite a political party ■■■■■ tbh.
Darkside:
It was people with half a brain that were conned by the lies so yes, anyone with half a brain would agree with you. Anyway you got your wish last night with your party voting to stop strike action by unions so maybe all isn’t lost on you and your posh mates.
Yawn, It was only a matter of time before the cliched, people who voted for Brexit are “racists”, “bigots”, “little islanders” and in your description above have “half a brain” (in other words thick) for being conned with the lies piped up. Might I suggest that the thick ones are the people who refuse to accept a democratic vote. Keep ■■■■■■■■■■■■ into your blue and yellow flag old bean.
That will be a non binding referendum so as to get by the electoral commission.
Fudged by Cameron to appease the hard right of the Conservative Party and the dirty Russian money backers.
Anything to save signing up to the EU offshore banking laws.
The EU tax avoidance directive 2016 / 1164
The EU savings and transparency act which coincidentally started 01 01 2020
tmcassett:
Darkside:
Might I suggest that the thick ones are the people who refuse to accept a democratic vote.
I really don’t know where to start with this
Darkside:
tmcassett:
Darkside:
Might I suggest that the thick ones are the people who refuse to accept a democratic vote.I really don’t know where to start with this
That’s ok mate, don’t worry about it, we’ll.all manage fine.
Darkside:
tmcassett:
Darkside:
Might I suggest that the thick ones are the people who refuse to accept a democratic vote.I really don’t know where to start with this
Maybe with the bit you have quoted? I’m all ears.
A one for the usual fan boys of the EU.
Ok irefutably reported by a biased reporter, but I bet there are a few twitching sphincters in the higher echelons in Brussels waiting for a knock on the door from the ‘Vieux Wilhelm’
As I’ve always said, corrupt, self serving and rotten to the core.
Hooray! Another Brexit Bonus hoves into view! More jobs on the horizon!
The bonfire of “EU laws” has been around for a while, but it has been now pointed out how this will lead to more employment in the UK. Sorting out the consequences, if Parliament votes it all through, will unravel. There is decades of work ahead for lawyers, judges, and other legal workers, paid for both privately and by our taxes, to argue the toss, whilst UK business once again doesnt know what will happen tomorrow, let alone next year or in 5 years. So [u]more work[/u] for lawyers etc alongside those extra workers in UK administration, customs, etc in both private and public sectors, all adding up to [u]zero extra[/u] UK production. "You dont get owt, for nowt" might be as true as ever. However this proves you can get nowt for a lot more taxes and costs!
Maybe those who want to invest in stable economic environments choose to look elsewhere, that is a pity. It would mean even less investment in the UK, with fewer stable jobs. Long term investment is needed for infrastructure and regular work.
But fear not, those “investment” funds which make money in turbulent markets will make money as shares rise and fall.
“I`m alright Jack”, says Jacob.
Twitter George Peretz KC
twitter.com/GeorgePeretzKC/stat … 2574514176
and Moorhouse`s explanation, much clearer than mine
youtube.com/watch?v=RG2flVhH71w
The biggest thing that causes “Rising Unemployment” is the employer going ■■■■-up.
Companies making money hand-over-fist - tend not to lay all their staff off, when some new, expensive rule comes in… On the contrary - they embrace the new “Laws” knowing that all their thorn-in-the-side Competitors - are going to struggle to meet these new, higher “one-off” overheads…
An example of such a thing would be small grocers in London going under in the next few months and years - because they cannot afford to upgrade to a euro-compliant vehicle (!!) whilst Supermarkets that have got billions can of course…
How are Londoners in OUTER areas going to get to work, those places that don’t have a handy nearby tube station?
How do Londoners anywhere get their weekly big food shop in - “taking it on the bus and tube” come to that?
Stolen-Away Driving - has consequences.
“Being effectively banned from running a business involving deliveries” - has DISASTEROUS consequences!
Londoners that are still capable of working - will be moving out of London in droves.
Londoners on Benefits - won’t be able to source food locally any more, and you’ll see millions of minions blundering around day and night with their little blue carrier bags, buying some overpriced groceries at the only place left to go - the Forecourts… and even they surely have their remaining days numbered!
The Brexit Deal done Today - draws a line under it, and permits the deep state to archive the whole brexit process as “done” but of course NOT done, in far as we UK folk - didn’t actually get much by way of the Brexit Dividend out of it - did we?
Yes, sure the whole rollout was a “stupid idea” IF you are one of those who “doesn’t believe in capital punishment” - and have just had YOUR loved one murdered by someone who wouldn’t even be alive, if you’d let the ruling Right have their way, instead of all thise woke, Liberal Left tosh that prevents crap rolling uphill at any time…
My only regret about Brexit - was that it never happened.
We still pay the EU contributions.
We still wage proxy war against the EU’s enemies on their sayso.
We still get dictated to by the ECHR and other legal bodies.
We don’t get asked on matters of “national importance”.
There’s no difference between our incumbent parties on the above points neither, so there’s no hope we can effect “regime change” in this country “by voting differently” in future.
From the EU’s point of view, the UK is now a full vassal and offshore colony that sends NO representatives to Brussels. We take orders, we are no longer allowed a voice IN those orders. Best of both worlds from their point of view.
The next stage will be the DUP being over-run by Sinn Fein at future elections in Northern Ireland.
Then Sunak’s Tories being busted out of power (They hope to be in opposition for “A generation”)
Then Keir Starmer’s stillborn Post-Labour party - will expect to inherit power, and with the electronic rigs fully in place these days - that should indeed be a formality.
The only thing that can deny them the outcome they expect at the top - is for the Far Left and Far Right to unite, and vote for a new upstart party in such numbers - that “feet can be held to the fire” by becoming the new Opposition rather than the Tories.
I wonder how many Corbinites out there would now consider voting against both Tory AND Labour in their respective wards?
How many would really go “Oh, I don’t like Starmer, but I have to vote Labour - because they are Labour!”…
Labour winning the most seats, then opens up the door to a UK breakup, because Starmer would not be able to get anything done without the SNP’s approval. That SNP future looks more likely to be under Humza Yousaf than Kate Forbes who will surely be “knobbled” on account of her Faith…? (They are neck and neck in the leadership contest betting, currently…)
If we’d left the EU properly, we could have been like Germany and done our own energy deals, and stayed out of EU foreign affairs - forever.
We’d not be pushed around by America’s current illegitimate government as well.
We wouldn’t have wasted a third of our pension funds betting against the Ruble - only for it to rise in value.
We wouldn’t be wasting 5billion at a time on Zelensky’s Borgia-like regime, rather than spending it at home where it’s rather NEEDED right now…
We could even drop this Carbon-Worship nonsense that has us deliberately making ourselves poorer - until some other enemy country we didn’t have to have as an enemy - rids the world of US in due course.
It isn’t WWIII that’s needed to sort this all out - it is more likely to be the “World Civil War”.
I could paraphrase Einstein here and say "I don’t know how the World Civil War will be fought, but the SECOND such war - will be over mining rights over the asteroid belt that was once the Earth…"
Either way, Humanity has reached the end of it’s collective rope. There’s too many of us, and we still don’t have any means to leave this planet in large numbers.
IMO - Dieback is imminent.
War
Famine
Pandemic? Nay, EPIDEMIC.
Economic Collapse
Global Power Failure
Global Starvation
If we’d left the EU properly, we could have been like Germany
Hmmmmm
Yesterday leading Brexiteer and unchosen Prime Monster Sunak said the following off the cuff comment.
" Northern Ireland is in an incredibly privileged and special position because it has access to both the UK market an also the EU market. No country in the world has the same advantage "
The irony.
A major deal with the USA now signed.
Not all enveloping, but concerning getting past US protectionist rules about green energy etc.
ec.europa.eu/commission/pressco … nt_23_1613
Could that be described as a “Special Relationship”?
Take Back Control.
UK (including NI) manufacturers will be able to continue with present levels of arsenic* in babyfood, whilst the EU legislates for lower levels.
Will they do this? Is this an advantage?
Clearly not to UK Babies and consumers. So, is it better for manufacturers?
If they want to sell their products in the EU (and dont we want to export goods for a better balance of trade?) then they need to follow EU rules. And clearly they dont want two production lines instead of one, so they will follow the stricter, EU rules.
If they choose to continue with the present levels of arsenic, because they don`t want to export, will the parents who buy babyfood choose that product over EU made food? Will they choose to possibly save a few bob?
So it goes on. We continue to follow the EU rules, because it is good business sense to do so.
We approved and supported the vast majority of EU rules, and could tweek them to suit ourselves when they were being passed.
We no longer have input into what those rules are. We used to have a say as member, but we gave that up.
*Arsenic is everywhere at low levels.
It does no good to anyone, especially the young. It is impossible to get to zero levels, but driving down the background level is a good thing.
Newer technology can enable this, and so should be adopted. It may cost money but if all manufacturers adopt higher standards, then there is no economic advantage to keeping old dirty tech.We need legislation so all are on a level playing field.
Here’s yer mate Rob making another post on the Brexit thread Frangers, so make sure you keep count. …(+1.on the total you informed me about on the other thread )
You may have got more sympathy off MOST of us on here if you came at the topic from another angle, maybe a new thread on it…but yet again any ■■■■■■■ excuse to drone on about Brexit and bump up your Brexit thread to the top. (I’ve mentioned it 3 times there Sybil but I think I got away with it )
Anyhhoo that said…
Yep…you are 100% correct, who tf feels comfortable knowing (or maybe not knowing) that there is a degree of arsenic 
in your little pride and joys rusks, and tinned squashed banana.
.After saying that I am sure it is safe because the large companies who manufacture it will be keen to avoid, (and will be fully aware of) the absolute ■■■■ storm of litigation that would come down over their lugs 8f some little girl or boy fell foul of it all… but yeah,.I as a parent would still not be content with the situation regardless.
Something should be looked into.
I ain’t a scientist in the league of Carryfast, but I am fairly sure an alternative ingredient could be used to do the job that arsenic (still.can’t believe it) is doing in your baby’s food.
There ya go mate something we agree on, pity the subject matter was used as a vehicle for the usual motive and agenda though…just saying.