Much more Brexit flavoured:
In the Oldies thread there was some comment about someone wishing to retire to an EU country (Spain) but finding that much harder now we have freedom of movement.
So, what will happen in the future?
Will the UK retirees who would have gone to warmer EU climes, either the rest of their lives, or for several years, now stay in the UK?
Will they go to other further flung places?
So, what will happen to UK demand for health care?
Will we have an even more rapidly increasingly aged population? Will our facilities need to give care previously given by Spanish (etc) hospitals and staff?
We have seen fewer EU workers coming to work here, and if we have more call on the NHS and home social care, due to more oldies staying here… I wonder…
Cant see much good news here. Maybe Im missing it, and someone will point to an obvious “Brexit benefit” I can`t see?
The Financial Times that imports of certain shipments of steel into Northern Ireland from Great Britain will now be subject to a 25% tariff.
This is because there is a quota for how much steel the EU will accept from non-EU countries, and this quota was recently filled up.
As a result, any further imports entering EU territory – including Northern Ireland – will face the new 25% tax.
So, not just an NI issue at all. No doubt the erg will use this as a reason to demand the triggering of article 16, and then the proverbial will hit the fan, to go along with the riverbanks and sea shore.
Makes you so proud to be Brexit British
Teresa Coffey is our new Deputy Prime Minister.
Whilst there are some that don’t look at the mantlepiece when poking the fire (Looking At You My Tory Friends - Yes you up North & Rob too!!)
I wouldn’t even want to be in the same room or even imagine it.
Rule Brittania - God Help Us.
Her first success as health secretary has been an instant cure for premature ■■■■■■■■■■■.
Saving the NHS £0000’s.
The downside is the increase in erectile dysfunction to pandemic proportions.
Brexiteers must be overjoyed at Liz Truss’s Tory Cabinet that would not look out of place in the Heckmondwike spice market or a cross-channel inflatable dinghy.
See how Truss deals with NI protocol, and possible sanctions in the coming few weeks.
Not a good time for anyone to become PM, and we need someone of a high caliber at the moment…
I hope the challenge makes her stronger, but the choice of her cabinet isn`t a good start: no dissenting voices means any madcap idea will go through on the nod.
You two authoriative experts should send them an e.mail with a bit of advice , or give em a bell with your input and criticism.
I’m sure they would value the opinion and expertise of two random lorry drivers and hang on your every word .
Still the reference to ‘‘Brexiteers’’ eh? … , ok granted it’s on a Brexit thread, but the taste of sour grapes is getting more and more bitter page after page.
Speaking for myself I no longer think of myself as a ‘‘Brexiteer’’ as such, that is all old hat now, a ‘In the past scenario’ for most people, we’ve all moved on from all that, it’s only a percentage of saddos who continue to perpetuate it and prevent it from dying a death.
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeee …(that’s the sound of my rod casting off )
The UK has until next Thursday (Sept 15th) to respond to EU Infringment Procedures started on June 15th, and added to July 22nd.
All concern the non-implementation of Brexit agreements as negotiated and signed by the Johnson administration.
Truss has been previously talking tough about Art. 16, but, who knows what way she actually act?
Franglais:
The UK has until next Thursday (Sept 15th) to respond to EU Infringment Procedures started on June 15th, and added to July 22nd.
All concern the non-implementation of Brexit agreements as negotiated and signed by the Johnson administration.
Truss has been previously talking tough about Art. 16, but, who knows what way she actually act?
1.9 million immigrants entered the EU from non-EU countries in 2020, a decrease of almost 30% compared with 2019.
They seem to care more about beer smuggling over sorting out their own issues.
I am not an expert on the Northern Ireland issue but I personally think a lot of the issue is with the EU and the amount of bureaucracy involved in dealing with them. Like Truck drivers getting the ham out of their sandwiches taken out when they enter Holland lol? It’s a bit much.
I’m not saying the EU is at fault here but if they actually stopped letting illegal immigrants free travel across their continent to try their luck crossing the channel they would have a stronger leg to stand on. They can not even control their own borders.
In my view both the EU and UK need to take a more pragmatic approach to this.
For example, probably over 50-70 of freight going to NI from the UK is from retail chains. These can for-go any checks. Leaving around 30% of freight requiring checks. So basically a trusted trader scheme.
From my understanding it is the UK’s position that only goods destined for the EU should be subject to checks and paper work. Whereas it is the position of the EU that everything should be checked to avoid stuff getting into the EU via the backdoor.
^ If that is the case then a middle ground can be reached and to be honest both sides position is unreasonable as it stands.
Also I know you will prob say “Well the UK agreed to it so why agree to it if your not gonna stick to it!?!!?!?!?”
Politicians playing politics. We needed an agreement and we could not come to a deal, so we agreed to something that we knew we probably could not do. Happens all the time in International relations and in politics in general as I am sure you know
Either way the EU needs to show more flexibility because the protocol isn’t working. Largely due to how impractical it is.
It also puts the peace agreement at risk. We need an agreement that pleases both the DUP and Sinn Fein. The current agreement really ■■■■■■ off the DUP as it in their minds cuts off NI from the UK.
Yea, that is completely nuts and needs sorting asap.
Yep. Nuts!
The NI Protocol. The one freely negotiated and signed by the Gov.
adam277:
They seem to care more about beer smuggling over sorting out their own issues.
It isnt about crates of beer in a car boot. It is about sorting out their own issues. Yknow? Protecting their own industry and workers.
adam277:
Either way the EU needs to show more flexibility because the protocol isn’t working. Largely due to how impractical it is.
The EU had all of their officials in place, and checks were carried out from day one. The UK still hasn`t started the checks it promised to make.
Maybe not all the checks the EU wanted to be made, but the ones they were negotiated down to. The ones they pragmatically agreed to. The ones the UK Gov, in our name, signed up to.
Is it “flexible” or “pragmatic” to let a cheat or liar get away with breaking a deal?
I think not.
adam277:
We needed an agreement and we could not come to a deal, so we agreed to something that we knew we probably could not do. Happens all the time in International relations and in politics in general as I am sure you know
So, how many examples have you of countries breaking International Law? And what happens to those countries?
Franglais:
So, how many examples have you of countries breaking International Law? And what happens to those countries?
Well depends on the country right?
Russia invades Ukraine. Clear breach of international law by impeding on another countries sovereignty and constitutes a war of aggression. All western countries pretty much sanction Russia.
US/UK invades Iraq which was a clear breach of international law and… Nothing happens despite it being a war of aggression.
Or maybe I am wrong. Maybe some country did sanction the USA or the UK over the Iraq war.
“It is deeply ironic that the German government, which lectures all other EU countries about respecting EU rules, has no difficulty breaking the State Aid rules when it comes to Lufthansa,”
Franglais:
So, how many examples have you of countries breaking International Law? And what happens to those countries?
Well depends on the country right?
Russia invades Ukraine. Clear breach of international law by impeding on another countries sovereignty and constitutes a war of aggression. All western countries pretty much sanction Russia.
US/UK invades Iraq which was a clear breach of international law and… Nothing happens despite it being a war of aggression.
Or maybe I am wrong. Maybe some country did sanction the USA or the UK over the Iraq war.
“It is deeply ironic that the German government, which lectures all other EU countries about respecting EU rules, has no difficulty breaking the State Aid rules when it comes to Lufthansa,”
To be honest there are plenty of examples.
Michael OLeary saying he doesnt like something, doesnt make it illegal. The EU decided it wasnt against the rules.
There are indeed many examples of countries breaking laws, and getting punished for it.
The Iraq invasion is an outlier, don`t you agree?
Infringements of internal EU rules is somewhat different to a 3rd country deliberately breaking a trade agreement.
Really a “bonus” this time too.
Bankers etc may have those nasty EU restrictions on bonuses lifted.
The game whereby players (sorry, experts) stood to make lots of gain, at little risk of loss, by gambling with (sorry, investing) someone else`s money (sorry, funds) are being looked at again.
We really do need to get back to the good ole days when profits could be made by selling junk bonds, and lending monies to people who can never repay them don`t we?
“I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.”
Douglas Adams.
Yesterday was the deadline for the UK to respond to the EU about the UK failing to comply with the Brexit deal, NI Protocol.
It seems letters were exchanged, but neither side has published them.
Truss is said to be continuing with the NI Protocol Bill which will further weaken those checks which are being made.
Franglais:
“I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.”
Douglas Adams.
Yesterday was the deadline for the UK to respond to the EU about the UK failing to comply with the Brexit deal, NI Protocol.
It seems letters were exchanged, but neither side has published them.
Truss is said to be continuing with the NI Protocol Bill which will further weaken those checks which are being made.
ERF-NGC-European:
I can’t get Various Outlets. Is it on Freeview?
Oh yes! It is if you discount having to spend time on wading through adverts, anyway.
As ever, the flavour of the reporting is different.
The Irish press seems fairly balanced to me. Some UK press is unsure what to say, but the Express says that the EU will fold and disband because of our strong position.
… , ok granted it’s on a Brexit thread, but the taste of sour grapes is getting more and more bitter page after page. 
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