Brexit Deal AGREED!

GasGas:
Oh good, another Brexit bonus

bbc.co.uk/news/business-55530721

The most outrageous thing here is not those taxes. Britons wanted out of the EU and single market, it’s their right.

The outrageous thing is that instead of sorting their taxes on their end, they force foreign companies that want to trade with Britain to collect taxes on their behalf, run appropriate paperwork, track changes to British tax law to ensure everything is in line with British set of rules, and make their records available on demand for the British tax man.

This is absurd and has no legal grounds. Why would, say, a Polish trading company need to employ a bookkeeper who’s familiar with British tax law? Or, imagine, if every country demanded it from Britain now. And if you would like to send some stuff to them, you will have to employ someone responsible to keep track of the tax laws in every single country you want to conduct business with… Most companies just won’t do it.

My friend’s wife runs a bookkeeping company and they told their customers already they will not deal with any of that ■■■■ and if they need to, they might look for another bookkeeper/tax advisors. So far none of their customers resigned, which means that they probably decided, that if they have still 27 other countries to trade barrier-free, they cannot be arsed to do business with Britain…

For someone who is not bothered about brexit and can run back to Poland any time they choose, they seem to be getting awfully worked up about it. May be your not polish after all.

Some people, who come from countries where freedom of movement and trade was not always a given, may not like the way that this is heading. Some people, who have always taken such things for granted, may not always realise what’s at risk until it is too late.

What he likes is nothing to do with it, it’s not his country or vote. Unless he is not really polish as I said.

Odd days:
For someone who is not bothered about brexit and can run back to Poland any time they choose, they seem to be getting awfully worked up about it. May be your not polish after all.

For someone who believes foreigners should integrate if they want to live in this country you seem to be awfully cross with the fact, that a foreigner wants to integrate and in order to that is trying to understand ths country better, so he’s interested in its current affairs :wink:

GasGas:
Some people, who come from countries where freedom of movement and trade was not always a given, may not like the way that this is heading. Some people, who have always taken such things for granted, may not always realise what’s at risk until it is too late.

Yes, I see it similarly. Even if older people say “I remember how it was before Britain joined EU” - they might very well remember, but it was like half of century ago (and still, if you know enough, you might know that it was not exaxly as pinky as they say).

If you want to know how it is to live outside the EU, you should speak to my Croatian friends. They have a pretty fresh memory. Or speak to Serbs about how easy it is to them to trade with the rest of Europe…

Odd days:
What he likes is nothing to do with it, it’s not his country or vote. Unless he is not really polish as I said.

It might not be my country to vote, but it is certainly everyone’s country to mock nowadays :wink:

Also FYI: You can be Polish AND can vote in Britain. A person is allowed to have more than one passport and citizenship.

I was not the one who said he was not bothered and could go back to Poland anytime that they want. Any body who thinks like that is obviously only a cuckoo in the nest exploiting it for their own needs and interrogation is the last thing on their mind, so don’t give me that old codswallop.

Odd days:
I was not the one who said he was not bothered and could go back to Poland anytime that they want. Any body who thinks like that is obviously only a cuckoo in the nest exploiting it for their own needs and interrogation is the last thing on their mind, so don’t give me that old codswallop.

Interrogation, you say? :slight_smile:

Have you considered integrating yourself? Learning the language is a good start, usually.

Also, I never said I can go back to Poland. I said I can go to any of the 30 EU/EEA countries I would wish to.

orys:

Odd days:
I was not the one who said he was not bothered and could go back to Poland anytime that they want. Any body who thinks like that is obviously only a cuckoo in the nest exploiting it for their own needs and interrogation is the last thing on their mind, so don’t give me that old codswallop.

Interrogation, you say? :slight_smile:

Have you considered integrating yourself? Learning the language is a good start, usually.

Also, I never said I can go back to Poland. I said I can go to any of the 30 EU/EEA countries I would wish to.

I take offence, you cannot win the argument so attack me personally.

Odd days:
I take offence, you cannot win the argument so attack me personally.

If you try to win argument, you could try using some actual arguments, rather than denying me right to have opinion because of my nationality.

Until you do that, I am not having a discussion with you, I am just laughing at you, as there is not much left to do about your posts :wink:

Harry Monk:

Franglais:
Brexit has already cost the UK £130 billion in lost growth since 2016, research by Bloomberg found.
Brexit is on course to cost the UK more than its combined total of payments to the European Union budget over the past 47 years, Bloomberg Economics found.
Bloomberg said the cost of the UK’s vote to leave the EU had already reached £130 billion.

That’ll be the Bloomberg founded by Michael Bloomberg, a man with a personal wealth exceeding $60 billion then?

Yes, I’m sure he has your best interests at heart. :wink:

As opposed to the reality of our EU membership.Paying a fortune in net contributions for the privilege of a massive net trade deficit all slashing our economic growth.Which is why it’s been nothing but austerity since we joined the scam including the IMF bail out debacle.
Nothing has obviously changed in that regard since 2016.We never left the EU in 2016 remember and we still haven’t ‘left’ it.

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orys:

Odd days:
I take offence, you cannot win the argument so attack me personally.

If you try to win argument, you could try using some actual arguments, rather than denying me right to have opinion because of my nationality.

Until you do that, I am not having a discussion with you, I am just laughing at you, as there is not much left to do about your posts :wink:

Spare us the bs.
Are you for or against this yes or no.
xinhuanet.com/english/2019-0 … 925591.htm

Now awaits evasion of the question like all your other EUSSR comrades.

It’s clear that you’re trying to build a new and larger version of the former commy Yugoslav Vichy regime right across Europe and the gutless complicit Tory party have no intention of standing in your way and you know it.

Carryfast:

orys:

Odd days:
I take offence, you cannot win the argument so attack me personally.

If you try to win argument, you could try using some actual arguments, rather than denying me right to have opinion because of my nationality.

Until you do that, I am not having a discussion with you, I am just laughing at you, as there is not much left to do about your posts :wink:

Spare us the bs.
Are you for or against this yes or no.
xinhuanet.com/english/2019-0 … 925591.htm

Now awaits evasion of the question like all your other EUSSR comrades.

It’s clear that you’re trying to build a new and larger version of the former commy Yugoslav Vichy regime right across Europe and the gutless complicit Tory party have no intention of standing in your way and you know it.

I’ll bite one last time.

That is not about the Chinese ‘taking over’ Europe. Nobody is going to take over Europe. Not overnight anyway.
International Co-operation is gradual, and inevitable, one way or the other. Countries have tried since the dawn of time, to subjugate each other, with varying degrees of success, and guess what? The peasant on the street had very little to bring to the table (other than his blood in the good old days) If you would study history, rather than feverishly read, listen and regurgitate your Anti Commie conspiracies, you’d realise that it has always been so. I’m sure the Celts did not care for Roman gods or amphitheatres, the native Americans did not care for your ancestor’s way of life, likewise the Aboriginal propbably weren’t best pleased with the bloody boat loads of immigrants washing onto THEIR land. More recently, this small Island keeps claiming that a smaller island, on the other side of the globe, is part of this Island, and for some reason this country still claims that part of Spain is not Spanish at all (no, not the Costa del Crime…).

Even in your utopia of Jerusalem you are not free, but ruled by the few at the top, for THEIR benefit. And the people of Wales, Scotland, Kernow and Yorkshire probably have different views on your independence aswel.

FRYSLAN BOPPE :fist:

Carryfast:
commy Yugoslav Vichy regime.

You should stop taking that stuff. Is not good for you, you know?

Winston Churchill promoting an 'United States Of Europe ’ in 1949:-

"If at first all the States of Europe are not willing or able to join a union we must nevertheless proceed to assemble and combine those who will and who can.
The salvation of the common people of every race and every land from war and servitude must be established on solid foundations, and must be created by the readiness of all men and women to die rather than to submit to tyranny. "

whisperingsmith:
Winston Churchill promoting an 'United States Of Europe ’ in 1949:-

"If at first all the States of Europe are not willing or able to join a union we must nevertheless proceed to assemble and combine those who will and who can.
The salvation of the common people of every race and every land from war and servitude must be established on solid foundations, and must be created by the readiness of all men and women to die rather than to submit to tyranny. "

United States of Europe - International Churchill Society

To celebrate Churchill’s great words you can now buy this special badge issued to celebrate Brexit:

:unamused:

whisperingsmith:
Winston Churchill promoting an 'United States Of Europe ’ in 1949:-

"If at first all the States of Europe are not willing or able to join a union we must nevertheless proceed to assemble and combine those who will and who can.
The salvation of the common people of every race and every land from war and servitude must be established on solid foundations, and must be created by the readiness of all men and women to die rather than to submit to tyranny. "

United States of Europe - International Churchill Society

Didn’t the British electorate kick him in to touch ? May be they didn’t like what he was saying then.

the nodding donkey:

Carryfast:

orys:

Odd days:
I take offence, you cannot win the argument so attack me personally.

If you try to win argument, you could try using some actual arguments, rather than denying me right to have opinion because of my nationality.

Until you do that, I am not having a discussion with you, I am just laughing at you, as there is not much left to do about your posts :wink:

Spare us the bs.
Are you for or against this yes or no.
xinhuanet.com/english/2019-0 … 925591.htm

Now awaits evasion of the question like all your other EUSSR comrades.

It’s clear that you’re trying to build a new and larger version of the former commy Yugoslav Vichy regime right across Europe and the gutless complicit Tory party have no intention of standing in your way and you know it.

I’ll bite one last time.

That is not about the Chinese ‘taking over’ Europe. Nobody is going to take over Europe. Not overnight anyway.
International Co-operation

So you’re calling what’s shown there ‘international co operation’.
No it definitely says and shows Communist led ‘‘world governance’’ that’s not the same thing as ‘international co operation’.
International co operation means telling your Commy mates to do one our national interest and governance trumps everything whenever and as we want.
Oh wait you admit that they intend to ‘‘take over’’ just gradually in the hope no one notices.You obviously have no problem with that or Communism.

orys:

Carryfast:
commy Yugoslav Vichy regime.

You should stop taking that stuff. Is not good for you, you know?

Do you agree with what’s being described in that link ( CCP led ‘‘World Governance’’ ) and the EU’s leadership obvious involvement in it, or not.
Tell us what’s the big difference between the former Yugoslav constitution and social engineering practices v that of the EU.Truth is you can’t because there is no major difference.

whisperingsmith:
Winston Churchill promoting an 'United States Of Europe ’ in 1949:-

"If at first all the States of Europe are not willing or able to join a union we must nevertheless proceed to assemble and combine those who will and who can.
The salvation of the common people of every race and every land from war and servitude must be established on solid foundations, and must be created by the readiness of all men and women to die rather than to submit to tyranny. "

United States of Europe - International Churchill Society

The whole speech is a typical Tory Europhile oxymoron or more like confused by too much alcohol in his case.
The imposition of the Collective over the self determination of the nation state is the definition of tyranny.Regardless of who is trying to impose it and what they try to call it.That’s why we went to war followed by the Cold War.
Churchill was defeated at the polls after WW2 because the electorate had seen through his drink fuelled contradictions and bs.

Odd days:

whisperingsmith:
Winston Churchill promoting an 'United States Of Europe ’ in 1949:-

"If at first all the States of Europe are not willing or able to join a union we must nevertheless proceed to assemble and combine those who will and who can.
Didn’t the British electorate kick him in to touch ? May be they didn’t like what he was saying then.
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Yep and just like in the case of Heath they blamed the ‘unions’ for seeing through his contradictory bollox.Loads of lives lost fighting for the country now let’s sell it out by giving Germany and its Vichy French allies everything they wanted. :imp: :unamused: