Spot on. It’s like all these total t**ts who think they are clever calling the French ‘surrender monkeys’, disrespecting the absolute HORROR that country, like others went through. Thing is all the Brexiteers are obsessed with the war without realising they’d be on the wrong side, not Germany but the anti intervention side, the ones who thought we should leave Germany to it, we’d be ok on our island (we wouldn’t). They can’t cope with a friendly Europe, let alone a hostile one
ft.com/content/55588f86-a4f … 723b787569
The FT article speaks of Gov changing employment laws for a more “competitive economy”.
It seems that it doesn’t include reducing the working week or increasing holiday pay. Who would have guessed?
And more hilarity from The Telegraph:
telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/0 … ms-warned/
It isn’t Brexit that is responsible for all the new red tape…
Don’t blame Brexiteers…
It is the deal that is wrong…
If we had the deal we voted for (we get our cake, and we eat it, and it’s delivered by unicorns, paid for by the pot of gold at rainbow end) we wouldn’t have this problem…
Blame everyone else again.
the nodding donkey:
GasGas:
Another Brexit Bonusthetimes.co.uk/edition/busi … -nt5mrwkd8
On a different tack…
Failed comic and alcoholic Jim Davidson popped up on my Youtube (god knows why) saying that the Dutch had short memories.
I didn’t click on it, but presume he’s wittering on about WWII and the ungrateful Netherlanders confiscating our brave drivers sandwiches this week.
I wonder if he knows and understands the enormity of the ■■■■-up perpetrated on the Netherlands by the UK in WWII, and the terrible consequences of it for the Dutch, and by extension much of the rest of Europe.
Yes, I’m taking about Arnhem. The Dutch begged the Brits not to do it and provided intelligence as to why they should not, which was backed by photographic evidence from the RAF. The Americans agreed to take part only reluctantly and the British under Montgomery pressed ahead anyway. Cost many Dutch lives and needlessly extended the war, thus helping the Russians get an even bigger slice of Germany.
Jim “hic” Davidson is an idiot. His ‘comedy’ routine has consisted for 60 years of rasist jokes and his drink-driving conviction. Did he not ‘threaten’ to leave the country in 1997 if Labour won the election? A typical gammon
As for the Dutch having short memories, I would invite any prick who suggest that the Dutch have forgotten the sacrifices made by the Brits the Americand, the Canadians, handlers not forget the Poles, revisit any of the many immaculately kept war cemeteries, or the many, many memorials in even the smallest corners…
The Dutch wont ever forget the sacrifices of the soldiers, despite the civilian loss of life and destruction of property. What they will not forget either, is the folly of Market Garden, pushed through by the overrated Prima Donna Montgomery.90% successful my arse.
You’ll love this
switchlogic:
Spot on. It’s like all these total t**ts who think they are clever calling the French ‘surrender monkeys’, disrespecting the absolute HORROR that country, like others went through. Thing is all the Brexiteers are obsessed with the war without realising they’d be on the wrong side, not Germany but the anti intervention side, the ones who thought we should leave Germany to it, we’d be ok on our island (we wouldn’t). They can’t cope with a friendly Europe, let alone a hostile one
Whatever you do, don’t tell them that Churchill proposed an Anglo-French Government in 1940 and the European Union in the post-war era!
winstonchurchill.org/resources/ … of-europe/
Johnson scribbled a pot-boiler biography of Churchill…shame he didn’t understand the subject at all.
If he did, he’s also be looking to reintroduce the Wages Councils and a lot more that the current Gvt would regard as Socialism
When Churchill spoke of a United States of Europe I’m not convinced he included all the poor former Soviet states in that. I doubt he imagined they’d all come here in their millions and hoover up millions of low paid unskilled jobs. Did he want the total free movement of people and the inability to control our borders. The inability to remove foreign criminals.
Farage nailed this 10 years ago but no one listened. Pity. I think if we just had the ability to control our borders and set our own laws then Brexit wouldn’t have happened. But the EU said take it or leave it. So we left it.
Seems the May deal wasn’t so bad after all…
Terry T:
When Churchill spoke of a United States of Europe I’m not convinced he included all the poor former Soviet states in that. I doubt he imagined they’d all come here in their millions and hoover up millions of low paid unskilled jobs. Did he want the total free movement of people and the inability to control our borders. The inability to remove foreign criminals.Farage nailed this 10 years ago but no one listened. Pity. I think if we just had the ability to control our borders and set our own laws then Brexit wouldn’t have happened. But the EU said take it or leave it. So we left it.
“Mr Farage is standing on a pile of ‘unmentionable’ and going ‘cockadoodledo!’.” 
Perfect summary of the man. He’s a ■■■■!
FYI, the Greek economy grew by 1.9% in 2019, UK grew by 1.5 in the same year, but there was zero growth in the last quarter. So the Greeks are now doing better than us by that measure.
And since then we’ve come up with this wonderful way of obstructing our trade with our most important partner
GasGas:
the nodding donkey:
GasGas:
Another Brexit Bonusthetimes.co.uk/edition/busi … -nt5mrwkd8
On a different tack…
Failed comic and alcoholic Jim Davidson popped up on my Youtube (god knows why) saying that the Dutch had short memories.
I didn’t click on it, but presume he’s wittering on about WWII and the ungrateful Netherlanders confiscating our brave drivers sandwiches this week.
I wonder if he knows and understands the enormity of the ■■■■-up perpetrated on the Netherlands by the UK in WWII, and the terrible consequences of it for the Dutch, and by extension much of the rest of Europe.
Yes, I’m taking about Arnhem. The Dutch begged the Brits not to do it and provided intelligence as to why they should not, which was backed by photographic evidence from the RAF. The Americans agreed to take part only reluctantly and the British under Montgomery pressed ahead anyway. Cost many Dutch lives and needlessly extended the war, thus helping the Russians get an even bigger slice of Germany.
Jim “hic” Davidson is an idiot. His ‘comedy’ routine has consisted for 60 years of rasist jokes and his drink-driving conviction. Did he not ‘threaten’ to leave the country in 1997 if Labour won the election? A typical gammon
As for the Dutch having short memories, I would invite any prick who suggest that the Dutch have forgotten the sacrifices made by the Brits the Americand, the Canadians, handlers not forget the Poles, revisit any of the many immaculately kept war cemeteries, or the many, many memorials in even the smallest corners…
The Dutch wont ever forget the sacrifices of the soldiers, despite the civilian loss of life and destruction of property. What they will not forget either, is the folly of Market Garden, pushed through by the overrated Prima Donna Montgomery.90% successful my arse.
You’ll love this
I’m sure I would, but I’m allergic to websites that cover their content with a “gives us access to your device, and all your information, to do with as we like”… 
Terry T:
When Churchill spoke of a United States of Europe I’m not convinced he included all the poor former Soviet states in that. I doubt he imagined they’d all come here in their millions and hoover up millions of low paid unskilled jobs. Did he want the total free movement of people and the inability to control our borders. The inability to remove foreign criminals.Farage nailed this 10 years ago but no one listened. Pity. I think if we just had the ability to control our borders and set our own laws then Brexit wouldn’t have happened. But the EU said take it or leave it. So we left it.
When Churchill was speaking there was no Soviet Bloc, and no “poor former Soviet states”.
Any interpretation put on his words by anyone should remember that.
Given that the USSR and it`s satellite countries were seen as a genuine threat to European and world peace, and our defenses were a drain on resources, are you pleased or disappointed those countries occupied by the USSR are now free?
Given they are now free, do you think it would have been a wise and sustainable position to hold them at arms length for a long time?
Let them in to the western markets? Or have a pool of poor, hungry, well armed people, who we had been shouting to about our wealth and freedom for decades, on our doorstep?
Farage video?
“Greece, Portugal, Ireland cannot survive inside the Euro”…well, he got that wrong.
He also says he wants a Europe with a free trade agreement,and minimum standards on work and the environment.
He also says he wants it done without any Parliament or Euro Courts. How would that happen?
Well, I do agree it would be nice if all countries would all agree to be fair and play together nicely, but in the real world?
The past few years have show Farage gets pretty much everything wrong.
He’s now reduced to selling ‘investments’ on youtube…“The value of which may go up or down”
Well, yes…but most likely to go down, I think.
Honda Swindon still closed because of ‘supply issues’…will it ever reopen?
Franglais:
Or have a pool of poor, hungry, well armed people, who we had been shouting to about our wealth and freedom for decades, on our doorstep?
Let us join your gang or we’ll beat you up
Marvellous basis for a relationship.
Terry T:
Franglais:
Or have a pool of poor, hungry, well armed people, who we had been shouting to about our wealth and freedom for decades, on our doorstep?Let us join your gang or we’ll beat you up
Marvellous basis for a relationship.
Maybe more realistic than Farages: "Lets all agree on a set of rules, without a Parliament, and then well all obey them without any Courts"?
Let`s deal with the real world, eh?
But why do we need to agree to any set of rules. Why not make our own rules up to suit our needs. All we really need from the EU is a free trade agreement and plenty of other countries have gotten this from them without being ruled by the ECJ and god knows what else.
> Terry T:
> But why do we need to agree to any set of rules. Why not make our own rules up to suit our needs. All we really need from the EU is a free trade agreement and plenty of other countries have gotten this from them without being ruled by the ECJ and god knows what else.
Not sure whether that’s a serious question or whether you are taking the ■■■■ out of Brexiteers ■■
GasGas:
Whatever you do, don’t tell them that Churchill proposed an Anglo-French Government in 1940 and the European Union in the post-war era!winstonchurchill.org/resources/ … of-europe/
Johnson scribbled a pot-boiler biography of Churchill…shame he didn’t understand the subject at all.
Looks as if you didn’t understand the subject either…or the situation at that time. 
Ffs 
.
Talk about clutching at straws to make a point.
The situation in Europe at that time was totally different…as you well know.
Most of mainland Europe had been totally ■■■■ ed, and bankrupt, and most of the infrastructure was in ruins.
If Churchill had managed to kick off some Euro one state, you can sure as hell bet the UK would have a, if not THE leading role in the proceedings and defin8tely the running, as we would be the premier nation…and backed by the US. 
We would not be 'kow towing ’ to any of em in that scenario (as we have been) ,…especially the Germans, who were a defeated nation, and a hated nation by the likes of France.
Who knows?..maybe it would have went the other way,.another European war after the Germans were kept down again this time …as in and after the Treaty of Versailles WW1.
Not good.
He probably saw this vision of Europe as a new ‘Neo British Empire’ …, as he did belong to that Imperialistic generation,.(and class) .after all. …
So try again with that analogy and theory,…the Europe situation then compared to today was a totally different ball game, comparing apples with oranges.
And to take history even further…
As for the Russians,.General Patton was all for re.mobilising and commanding the German forces ,.and rallying with them under Western Allied command to take the Russians on…that would have sorted out any future Cold war problems…plus the US had the bomb as a sweetener.
So yeh maybe Churchills Euro Vision would have been a good thing you are right.
At least, far better (for us anyway) than the cluster ■■■■ of self serving corruption that the EU has developed into over the years.
Found a video Of RobRoy
youtube.com/watch?v=9Ne3VOnnUE8
Franglais:
Found a video Of RobRoy
youtube.com/watch?v=9Ne3VOnnUE8
Yeh nice one… I’ll.take that. 
But seriously though,…did I say something that was not fact (we know how you love finding ‘facts’ Franglais to fit your Euro ideals) and at least if not facts, the theories were feasible tbf, unless you could visualise a different hypothesis that is, as you love twisting things to suit
Sorry it did not fit your agenda. 
robroy:
Franglais:
Found a video Of RobRoy
youtube.com/watch?v=9Ne3VOnnUE8
But seriously though,…did I say something that was not fact (we know how you love finding ‘facts’ Franglais to fit your Euro ideals) and at least if not facts, the theories were feasible tbf, unless you could visualise a different hypothesis that is, as you love twisting things to suit
Sorry it did not fit your agenda.
If you want to re-run the Yalta and Potsdam talks, and then rewrite history you can Carry-On with CarryFast mate.
Franglais:
robroy:
Franglais:
Found a video Of RobRoy
youtube.com/watch?v=9Ne3VOnnUE8
But seriously though,…did I say something that was not fact (we know how you love finding ‘facts’ Franglais to fit your Euro ideals) and at least if not facts, the theories were feasible tbf, unless you could visualise a different hypothesis that is, as you love twisting things to suit
Sorry it did not fit your agenda.If you want to re-run the Yalta and Potsdam talks, and then rewrite history you can Carry-On with CarryFast mate.
Maybe my theory could be construed as re.writing history, but on the other hand I accept history.also…what about you?