Brexit , borders and lorries

anon84679660:

Odd days:
Has the penny only just dropped, has been going on for years. You don’t think tony got Alastair Campbell to work for nothing do you. It’s a well oiled gravy train, just has a different rosette on the front at different times.

We all know politicians over the years like to look after themselves when it comes to their salaries and expenses, but you have falied to notice, this article is mostly about how a prime minister’s adviser who had been in the job less then a year, had gone from being paid £95k to £145k just before being sacked.
Now, please, feel free to supply information about an other politician from this country’s post war history that received such a spectacular pay rise of over 45% in his first year of employment, just before being sucked.

When you plan to sack an employee, you don’t really reward them with a pay rise, do you.

What do you think this particular employee has done throughout his short term of employment to be rewarded an over 45% pay rise and then being sacked?

Has he distinguished himself with some ground breaking developments?
Was it all about being rewarded for an outstanding work towards preparing the country for a successful Brexit transition.
Oven ready deal perhaps?
Sunny uplands?

What was this over 45% pay rise about, and then a sack?

I’m all ears.

I never said it was right at all , but there is not a good one anywhere. They are all in it to feather their own nest and are all exactly the same, there they are all as bad as one another that’s a fact.

OwenMoney:
I read that cabotage by countries outside of the EU will not be allowed . I will try to find the link.

The European Commission has just announced a contingency measure to apply for international road haulage in early 2021 in a bid to lessen the impact on road freight should negotiations between the EU and the UK stall.
UK international operators will be able to undertake international road haulage between the UK and EU without the need for ECMT permits until at least June 30, 2021.

As yet, no arrangements are in place for movements after this date.

The Road Haulage Association (RHA) said it did not believe cabotage will be permitted at all for UK hauliers in the EU, nor will cross-trade of loads between EU states be allowed under these rules.

It is likely ECMT permits will be needed for transit across the EU to non-EU States (Switzerland, Ukraine, Norway, etc) or to move goods between EU States, RHA added.

OwenMoney:

OwenMoney:
I read that cabotage by countries outside of the EU will not be allowed . I will try to find the link.

The European Commission has just announced a contingency measure to apply for international road haulage in early 2021 in a bid to lessen the impact on road freight should negotiations between the EU and the UK stall.
UK international operators will be able to undertake international road haulage between the UK and EU without the need for ECMT permits until at least June 30, 2021.

As yet, no arrangements are in place for movements after this date.

The Road Haulage Association (RHA) said it did not believe cabotage will be permitted at all for UK hauliers in the EU, nor will cross-trade of loads between EU states be allowed under these rules.

It is likely ECMT permits will be needed for transit across the EU to non-EU States (Switzerland, Ukraine, Norway, etc) or to move goods between EU States, RHA added.

More boat trips for some of us then.
A day trip could turn into best part of two days. Or two full days depending on new customs docs and port turnaround times.
Hope I get lots of book vouchers from Sanity Clause!

Stupid Brexit

“No cross trade routes”
Means collect trl French port, tip and load Spain, drop in France again; currently legal, will become illegal for UK hauliers?
The origin and final destination of goods being irrelevant, it’s where the truck takes the load, in this example both EU countries.

Any queue s into dover yet or is it too early for they start for the mass exodus prior to new years day

Nissan had already announced that their plant would not be viable in the event of a no deal brexit, but, deal or no deal, one of their intended investments is still not going ahead as planned. Their new electric car was to be produced in the UK but will now be built in Japan and exported to the EU as that makes more sense that building it in Brexit Britain.

youtube.com/watch?v=TUkPmZmVv_U

anon84679660:
Nissan had already announced that their plant would not be viable in the event of a no deal brexit, but, deal or no deal, one of their intended investments is still not going ahead as planned. Their new electric car was to be produced in the UK but will now be built in Japan and exported to the EU as that makes more sense that building it in Brexit Britain.

youtube.com/watch?v=TUkPmZmVv_U

Due to the free trade deal the the EU did with Japan there is no need to make any Japanese cars in Europe anymore, keep people employed in Japan or give the jobs to Europeans no brainer really.

did somebody say there was a queue into Dover

msn.com/en-gb/video/viral/t … d=msedgntp

robthedog:
MSN

Fake news.
Thats a photo-shopped image, if you look closely it is a mirror image. Those are trucks are near Dover its true. But that is the back of the queue to tip at DRIFT.

Mazzer2:

anon84679660:
Nissan had already announced that their plant would not be viable in the event of a no deal brexit, but, deal or no deal, one of their intended investments is still not going ahead as planned. Their new electric car was to be produced in the UK but will now be built in Japan and exported to the EU as that makes more sense that building it in Brexit Britain.

youtube.com/watch?v=TUkPmZmVv_U

Due to the free trade deal the the EU did with Japan there is no need to make any Japanese cars in Europe anymore, keep people employed in Japan or give the jobs to Europeans no brainer really.

Brexit threat

Nissan has stuck with stark warnings about the fate of its Sunderland plant as the deadline for a trade deal between the UK and EU deal approaches. Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta has said that Brexit-induced tariffs could render the company’s UK business and Sunderland plant unsustainable.

The plant has at times manufactured more than 500,000 vehicles a year, though output dropped below 350,000 units last year and will be much lower in 2020. About 80 percent of the Qashqai and Juke crossovers and full-electric Leaf hatchbacks manufactured there are exported, mostly to the EU.

Nissan has earmarked 400 million pounds ($543 million) for production of the new Qashqai in Sunderland and has invested most of that already, it said last month.

Unless negotiators are able to reach an agreement on new terms of trade before the Brexit transition period ends on Dec. 31, vehicles and components will be subject to tariffs that Nissan, BMW and PSA Group have said would be catastrophic for their factories.

As Nissan swiftly launches new vehicles – 12 fresh models are scheduled in the 18 months through November 2021 – a no-deal Brexit could mean that a greater number of Europe-bound cars are produced outside the UK.

No more bacon sarnies.
theguardian.com/politics/20 … ndwich-ban
And no more stocking up with cheddar at a UK supermarket for visiting ex pats.

Franglais:
No more bacon sarnies.
theguardian.com/politics/20 … ndwich-ban
And no more stocking up with cheddar at a UK supermarket for visiting ex pats.

That is NOT going to please the wife, nor our English friends that I bring it back for.
Oh well, will have to put it in the trailer with the consignment of cheddar. :wink: :wink: :wink:

pierrot 14:

Franglais:
No more bacon sarnies.
theguardian.com/politics/20 … ndwich-ban
And no more stocking up with cheddar at a UK supermarket for visiting ex pats.

That is NOT going to please the wife, nor our English friends that I bring it back for.
Oh well, will have to put it in the trailer with the consignment of cheddar. :wink: :wink: :wink:

Smuggling? An otherwise honest, upstanding, gentleman such as yourself!
The lengths some will go to, to satisfy their addictions.
Wonder if I`ll have to stop bringing fresh BBQ merguez into Blighty?

Ooooo now I’m seeing opportunities to do illegal food runs as with drugs. I’m sure a way could be found

‘Sir, why does your empty Transit van weigh 6 tonnes’

‘Well officer that will be a controlled substance- cheese’

switchlogic:
Ooooo now I’m seeing opportunities to do illegal food runs as with drugs. I’m sure a way could be found

‘Sir, why does your empty Transit van weigh 6 tonnes’

‘Well officer that will be a controlled substance- cheese’

There are other substances that ex-pats have a bad habit with, Im pretty sure that Owen has the Marmite monkey on his back. Ive met a few marmalade users around and about too, they start with confitures as a gateway preserve, but end up with pure orange rind in their spreads. I also carry English Breakfast Tea packs in my cab as bribes for addicts and others seeking a tannin high.

After 4 years of insisting a No Deal to be an “amaizing” outcome of these negotiations, but needing preparations of various kinds, we are still not ready for Brexit?

Britain not ready for no deal, says Brexit select committee

Policing a serious concern as co-operation with EU authorities remains up in the air

Significant concerns have been expressed over the UK’s preparedness for leaving the EU by an influential group of MPs less than two weeks before Brexit day on 31 December.

The Commons’ Brexit select committee has called on the government to ensure there is a robust contingency plan in place in the next fortnight to cope with the fallout as it criticises the lack of an “overall state of readiness” for business and citizens.

The call comes as it emerged that Whitehall had tested some worst-case possible scenarios in a no-deal outcome this week. Operation Capstone events included French fishing boats blockading ferries in the English channel, the hijacking of vaccine trucks, a surge in hate crime, an explosion in Gibraltar and the closure of a care home because of sudden shortages of EU-national workers after 1 January, according to the Times (paywall).

Many of the details of the new trade and travel barriers are only beginning to sink in. Some will not emerge until it is known if the UK and the EU have been able to hammer out a deal before the Sunday deadline.

The committee has warned that borders must not be compromised if there is no agreement on policing that ensures continued access to law enforcement tools including the European arrest warrant.

“With just seven working days until the end of the transition period, significant concerns remain,” said Hilary Benn, chair of the committee.

The warning comes in a report published on Saturday as Downing Street and Brussels continue to try to hammer out a deal, deadlocked over fishing, by the European parliament’s deadline.

“At this late stage the government must be ready to implement contingency plans where necessary to mitigate the effects of any disruption. Failure to do so would mean the worst possible start to the new year for many people and businesses who are already experiencing the toughest of times,” the report says.

Benn said the government “still cannot provide business, traders and citizens with certainty about what will happen in all the areas affected by the negotiations”.

The report adds that decisions have been made “too late”, communication with businesses has been “patchy at best” and police may be forced to use “slower and more ■■■■■■■■■■■ systems.

The cross-party committee, which backed the report unanimously, warned that the combination of Brexit uncertainty and Covid-19 could hamper UK businesses.

Provisions to ensure the UK border is “secure and safe” must be put in place while ministers must carefully monitor the effectiveness of alternative means of intelligence sharing for law enforcement, the report says.

If the UK crashes out without a deal it loses access not just to the joint arrest system but also to four other systems including: live passenger number records vital in counter-terror operations; the Schengen Information System II database of missing persons and stolen goods; fingerprinting and DNA records in a system known as Prüm; and the European Criminal Records Information System (Ecris), which holds records of criminals across the bloc.

Before connecting to the Prüm DNA framework, which contains millions of records on criminal suspects, data exchange was done manually by the UK’s National Crime Agency.

The government has said it would still be able to cooperate with EU security and police counterparts using Interpol and other forums.

However, police representatives have said the alternatives will leave the UK in a weaker position.

While the precise nature of future cooperation with the EU on law enforcement remains unclear, the UK’s safety and security must not be compromised, the MPs say.

They recognise that UK law enforcement agencies have been working hard to develop alternatives to EU databases but warn “the fallback systems for exchanging data are slower and more ■■■■■■■■■■■■

They say a EU-UK surrender agreement to replace the European arrest warrant is “unlikely” to be ready in time and urge the government to open talks with the Irish government over bilateral policing arrangements for the island of Ireland.

The MPs praise the government for its early decision to phase in customs and regulatory controls in three stages between January and July, and the recent agreement on the implementation of the Northern Ireland protocol.

But they call on Westminster to work with the devolved governments to “minimise traffic disruption” near British ports, citing the lack of veterinary officers to provide health certificates for food and animal products mandatory for exports to the EU from 1 January.

Decisions on the border model are complicated but have been made “too late” and the “late delivery” of IT systems for customs makes training and testing difficult. The MPs warn that trade with the EU may be hindered if sufficient numbers of customs and veterinary staff to perform checks and give advice are not in place.

On security issues the government said Brexit would allow “tangible changes that will make the British people safer, including banning foreign criminals from entering the UK”.

It said border software would be ready, that the Welsh government was close to securing a lorry site for Holyhead and that it was pleased the committee had welcomed “our pragmatic and flexible approach to staged border controls, as well as our detailed border operating model” as well as the agreement on Northern Ireland.

anon84679660:
After 4 years of insisting a No Deal to be an “amaizing” outcome of these negotiations, but needing preparations of various kinds, we are still not ready for Brexit?

Britain not ready for no deal, says Brexit select committee

Policing a serious concern as co-operation with EU authorities remains up in the air

Significant concerns have been expressed over the UK’s preparedness for leaving the EU by an influential group of MPs less than two weeks before Brexit day on 31 December.

The Commons’ Brexit select committee has called on the government to ensure there is a robust contingency plan in place in the next fortnight to cope with the fallout as it criticises the lack of an “overall state of readiness” for business and citizens.

The call comes as it emerged that Whitehall had tested some worst-case possible scenarios in a no-deal outcome this week. Operation Capstone events included French fishing boats blockading ferries in the English channel, the hijacking of vaccine trucks, a surge in hate crime, an explosion in Gibraltar and the closure of a care home because of sudden shortages of EU-national workers after 1 January, according to the Times (paywall).

Many of the details of the new trade and travel barriers are only beginning to sink in. Some will not emerge until it is known if the UK and the EU have been able to hammer out a deal before the Sunday deadline.

The committee has warned that borders must not be compromised if there is no agreement on policing that ensures continued access to law enforcement tools including the European arrest warrant.

“With just seven working days until the end of the transition period, significant concerns remain,” said Hilary Benn, chair of the committee.

The warning comes in a report published on Saturday as Downing Street and Brussels continue to try to hammer out a deal, deadlocked over fishing, by the European parliament’s deadline.

“At this late stage the government must be ready to implement contingency plans where necessary to mitigate the effects of any disruption. Failure to do so would mean the worst possible start to the new year for many people and businesses who are already experiencing the toughest of times,” the report says.

Benn said the government “still cannot provide business, traders and citizens with certainty about what will happen in all the areas affected by the negotiations”.

The report adds that decisions have been made “too late”, communication with businesses has been “patchy at best” and police may be forced to use “slower and more cumbersome” systems.

The cross-party committee, which backed the report unanimously, warned that the combination of Brexit uncertainty and Covid-19 could hamper UK businesses.

Provisions to ensure the UK border is “secure and safe” must be put in place while ministers must carefully monitor the effectiveness of alternative means of intelligence sharing for law enforcement, the report says.

If the UK crashes out without a deal it loses access not just to the joint arrest system but also to four other systems including: live passenger number records vital in counter-terror operations; the Schengen Information System II database of missing persons and stolen goods; fingerprinting and DNA records in a system known as Prüm; and the European Criminal Records Information System (Ecris), which holds records of criminals across the bloc.

Before connecting to the Prüm DNA framework, which contains millions of records on criminal suspects, data exchange was done manually by the UK’s National Crime Agency.

The government has said it would still be able to cooperate with EU security and police counterparts using Interpol and other forums.

However, police representatives have said the alternatives will leave the UK in a weaker position.

While the precise nature of future cooperation with the EU on law enforcement remains unclear, the UK’s safety and security must not be compromised, the MPs say.

They recognise that UK law enforcement agencies have been working hard to develop alternatives to EU databases but warn “the fallback systems for exchanging data are slower and more cumbersome”.

They say a EU-UK surrender agreement to replace the European arrest warrant is “unlikely” to be ready in time and urge the government to open talks with the Irish government over bilateral policing arrangements for the island of Ireland.

The MPs praise the government for its early decision to phase in customs and regulatory controls in three stages between January and July, and the recent agreement on the implementation of the Northern Ireland protocol.

But they call on Westminster to work with the devolved governments to “minimise traffic disruption” near British ports, citing the lack of veterinary officers to provide health certificates for food and animal products mandatory for exports to the EU from 1 January.

Decisions on the border model are complicated but have been made “too late” and the “late delivery” of IT systems for customs makes training and testing difficult. The MPs warn that trade with the EU may be hindered if sufficient numbers of customs and veterinary staff to perform checks and give advice are not in place.

On security issues the government said Brexit would allow “tangible changes that will make the British people safer, including banning foreign criminals from entering the UK”.

It said border software would be ready, that the Welsh government was close to securing a lorry site for Holyhead and that it was pleased the committee had welcomed “our pragmatic and flexible approach to staged border controls, as well as our detailed border operating model” as well as the agreement on Northern Ireland.

Trying to wade through some of this stuff. Is this your original comment or an article you have read somewhere or what?

Copy and paste without use of the delete …