Brexit , borders and lorries

UK PROFESSIONAL DRIVERS FORUMS THE UK PROFESSIONAL DRIVERS FORUM (INTERACTIVE)
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Mazzer2:

Franglais:
If Diesel Dog is still around, he wont be too happy at this: [thelocal.fr/20201209/booze- ... nd-spirits](https://www.thelocal.fr/20201209/booze-cruise-uk-lays-out-post-brexit-limits-on-french-wine-beer-and-spirits) Bet a few others wont be happy either.
2 dozen bottles wine, 200 cigs, £390.00 max other stuff such as clothing etc.
But, these lower amounts may become duty free again, so could be a swingsnroundabouts situation. You get less, but what you do get is cheaper.
Will drivers get to bring in the full amount every trip? With electronic logging available now I reckon we may be monitored more. At first, there will be too much other stuff going on to be bothered, but later? Who knows?

Think DD lives in Donegal so won’t affect him :smiley: :smiley:

How will it work for him, and others using “the land bridge” I wonder?
“Honest officer, I won`t sell off this booze on my way from Dover to Pemboke”
Direct Cherbourg / Rosslare, no worries of course.

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msgyorkie:
Its about time this was put in Bully’s. Its become a boring Remain V Leave argument with the same old boring conversations we had in 2016.

You know you don’t have to open and engage with every post on the main forum don’t you? Just scroll by, doesnt really matter where it is

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switchlogic:

msgyorkie:
Its about time this was put in Bully’s. Its become a boring Remain V Leave argument with the same old boring conversations we had in 2016.

You know you don’t have to open and engage with every post on the main forum don’t you? Just scroll by, doesnt really matter where it is

Or just move it to the correct forum

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Franglais:

Mazzer2:

Franglais:
If Diesel Dog is still around, he wont be too happy at this: [thelocal.fr/20201209/booze- ... nd-spirits](https://www.thelocal.fr/20201209/booze-cruise-uk-lays-out-post-brexit-limits-on-french-wine-beer-and-spirits) Bet a few others wont be happy either.
2 dozen bottles wine, 200 cigs, £390.00 max other stuff such as clothing etc.
But, these lower amounts may become duty free again, so could be a swingsnroundabouts situation. You get less, but what you do get is cheaper.
Will drivers get to bring in the full amount every trip? With electronic logging available now I reckon we may be monitored more. At first, there will be too much other stuff going on to be bothered, but later? Who knows?

Think DD lives in Donegal so won’t affect him :smiley: :smiley:

How will it work for him, and others using “the land bridge” I wonder?
“Honest officer, I won`t sell off this booze on my way from Dover to Pemboke”
Direct Cherbourg / Rosslare, no worries of course.

To be honest the UK has never really shown any interest in us bringing wine through if customs know their job they’ll know the profit margin is far higher in Ireland so you’re not doing it right if you’re selling in the UK :smiley: :smiley: Hard pressed to get wine for under 9 euro a bottle in Ireland :open_mouth:
Customs in Dublin and Rosslare are a different matter always handy to have a few wedding invitations with you, the divorce and remarriage rate in my family is phenomenal :smiley: :smiley:

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Mazzer2:
always handy to have a few wedding invitations with you, the divorce and remarriage rate in my family is phenomenal

Ah. :smiley:
Like the mortality rate for elderly relatives goes sky high in world cup years?

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Sorry, double.

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Franglais:

Mazzer2:
always handy to have a few wedding invitations with you, the divorce and remarriage rate in my family is phenomenal

Ah. :smiley:
Like the mortality rate for elderly relatives goes sky high in world cup years?

:smiley: :smiley: :smiley: so many excuses for a family booze up in Ireland christenings, first communions and confirmations the children just about paid their way by the time they hit 11 :smiley:

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Boris Johnson’s Government isn’t prepared to risk the reputation of Brexit, no matter what the cost, reports Sam Bright

This week, the Government issued a “written communications toolkit” to local administrations, with guidance about what they should say to individuals and businesses about the end of the Brexit transition period on 31 December.

The document contains a range of generic advice that local areas should communicate to residents, such as the need to check the validity of their passports, and for exporters to apply for relevant licenses.

Notably, however, the Government instructs areas not to use messages or adverts that suggest a negative outcome at the end of the transition period. “Focus on positive outcomes and motivate readers to act by clearly communicating what will happen if they take action,” the document reads. An example is included, relating to exporters.

It is recommended that local authorities say:
To continue to trade with the EU after 31 December 2020, you will need to follow new rules for exporting, including changes to processes and licensing.

As opposed to:

You will not be able to continue trading with the EU after 31 December 2020, if you don’t follow new rules for exporting, including changes to processes and licensing.

The Project Above the People
This emphasis on positive Brexit messaging seems to be a political rather than a practical decision – placing the reputation of the project above the interests of individuals and businesses.

Indeed, logically, negative messages carry more urgency and gravity. If a business owner is told they will lose trade and money if they don’t register for an export license, they will pay attention.

Take anti-smoking adverts, for example. They feature visceral, negative slogans predicting cancer and infertility, if the individual doesn’t stop immediately. They do not say, “You will be able to carry on living if you quit smoking,” because that doesn’t provide sufficient motivation. I smoke yet I am still alive; so why should I stop? I don’t have an export license yet I can currently trade with Europe; so why should I register for one?

In order to change their actions, people need to tangibly comprehend the negative consequences of not acting. But of course that would involve admitting that Brexit has negative consequences.

This optimism stricture could therefore explain why many businesses are still not prepared for the end of the transition period. The House of Commons Public Accounts Committee, for example, understands that the Government has failed to reach a third of businesses that believed in October that the transition period would be extended. These firms could be set for a rude awakening on 1 January, the committee concludes, due to the Government’s failure to communicate.

Indeed, research published by the Institute of Directors in October found that 45% of all firms were not prepared for Brexit, with 24% saying that were unsure if they would be by the end of the year.

This confusion has of course been compounded by a general lack of direction and clarity in Brexit negotiations. The Government infamously spent £100 million last year telling firms to prepare for a potential ‘no deal’ departure, while publicly saying an “oven ready” deal would comfortably put the Brexit issue to bed.

There have also been calls for the end of the transition period to be delayed, due to the Coronavirus pandemic. Perhaps believing this policy would be adopted by any sensible government, 43% of small firms said in October they thought an extension would be agreed.

The Vote Leave establishment has for years propounded a Brexit fantasy featuring vast benefits and few drawbacks. It seems the Government isn’t prepared to revise this mythology, even it means businesses aren’t prepared for our oncoming rupture from the continent.

bylinetimes.com/2020/12/03/gove … rexit-ads/

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This man is an absolute genius.
One of the best channels on YT

Boris Johnson’s government, and the pro-brexit media, are working hard to convince their supporters that a no deal brexit will not be a problem for us, and that plans are in place to deal with any challenges. The problem with these lies is that the shock to the people who believe them will be all the greater when exposed next month.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=H-ZrIKAHErQ

Watch if you want to have a good laugh

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Logistics UK calls for “immediate” withdrawal of DfT plan to ban driver breaks in Kent post-Brexit

A government ban on truck drivers taking any break other than a 45-minute rest period in seven Kent boroughs from January next year has been slammed by the freight industry. Any truck driver who ignores the ban, which comes into force on 1 January, will face a £150 fine. The temporary ban comes as the government braces for lengthy post-Brexit queues on Kent roads headed to and from the Channel Ports. Logistics UK is calling on the DfT to withdraw […]

From Motor Transport 15 12 2020

msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/k … d=msedgntp

And this joy to come too

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Mixed news from my “office mole”.
We have now received some (not enough) permits for next year. They haven’t said how many short we are. The new permits we have allow no cabotage at all, but they are looking into whether cabotage permits will.be issued at all?
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Welcome back to the days of blue books, pink books, yellow books, etc.
Anyone know of a “John Bull” printing outfit for sale anywhere?

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I read that cabotage by countries outside of the EU will not be allowed . I will try to find the link.

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OwenMoney:
I read that cabotage by countries outside of the EU will not be allowed . I will try to find the link.

Not a shock. Will that be reciprocal, I wonder?
Pierrot might be affected if so?
We certainly will be hit by that.
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And what is “cabotage” definition for non EU trucks?
Currently it is haulage within one EU country that is regulated. After Brexit will we Brits have to treat the EU as one country? Be the end of droppers for many of us.
All that dead time for trucks on ferries…
Maybe there is a business opportunity here for an enterprising person to extract money from the rich and bored drivers on board? Remember the casinos? More than one guy’s running money was spend before docking in France!

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Dominic ■■■■■■■■ got a PAY RISE from £95k to £140k: Boris Johnson’s lockdown-flouting adviser had his pay boosted by at least £40k before he left No10 - as documents reveal PM’s army of SpAds cost taxpayer almost £10m

The Cabinet Office today published its annual report on special adviser pay
Data shows Dominic ■■■■■■■■ saw pay increase by at least £40,000 this

Dominic ■■■■■■■■ received a Number 10 pay rise of at least £40,000 this year as Boris Johnson’s army of Government special advisers cost taxpayers almost £10million.

Mr ■■■■■■■■■ who is in the process of leaving the Government after losing a Downing Street power battle in November, was listed in the £95,000 to £99,000 salary band in 2019.

But the latest figures published by the Cabinet Office revealed the PM’s now former chief adviser saw his pay jump to the £140,000 to £145,000 salary band in 2020.

The massive increase in salary came in a year in which Mr ■■■■■■■■ became embroiled in a huge public row over his 260-mile lockdown trip to Durham and amid major criticism of the Government’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic.

Labour deputy leader Angela Rayner said: ‘■■■■■■■■■ bumper bonus is an insult to key workers denied the pay rise they deserve. It’s another example of how under this government it is one rule for the Tory Party and their friends and another for the rest of us.’

Dominic ■■■■■■■■■ pictured leaving Downing Street with a box on November 13, saw his pay increase by at least £40,000 this year +4
Dominic ■■■■■■■■■ pictured leaving Downing Street with a box on November 13, saw his pay increase by at least £40,000 this year

Boris Johnson’s Government has 102 special advisers, costing the taxpayer almost £10million in 2019/20 +4
Boris Johnson’s Government has 102 special advisers, costing the taxpayer almost £10million in 2019/20

Mr Johnson’s press secretary, Allegra Stratton, is one of eleven senior No10 aides who is paid more than £110,000 +4
Mr Johnson’s press secretary, Allegra Stratton, is one of eleven senior No10 aides who is paid more than £110,000

The top earners in No10
Eleven of Boris Johnson’s senior aide’s at 10 Downing Street are now on salaries of at least £110,000, the report reveals.

They are in addition to Dominic ■■■■■■■■ and Lee Cain, who left Downing Street last month.

The report does not reveal exact salaries but shows the salary bracket in which their pay sits.

They are:

Sir Edward Lister, acting chief of staff, £140,000-£144,999
Munira Mirza, head of policy unit, £140,000-£144,999
Dan Rosenfield, incoming chief of staff £140,000-£144,999
Allegra Stratton, press secretary, £125,000-£129,999
Nikki Da Costa, director of legislative affairs, £125,000-£129,999
David Frost, Brexit negotiator, £125,000-£129,999
Jack Doyle, deputy director of communications, £110,000-£114,999
Alex Hickman, adviser on business, £110,000-£114,999
Clare King, operations, events and visits, £110,000-£114,999
Oliver Lewis, Brexit adviser, £110,000-£114,999
Ben Warner, data guru, £110,000-£114,999

The annual report on special advisers also revealed that Mr Johnson now has eleven senior aides based in Number 10 who all earn at least £110,000.

Among them is new press secretary Allegra Stratton who is listed as earning between £125,000 and £130,000.

Sir Edward Lister, the PM’s chief strategic adviser, is listed as being paid between £140,000 and £145,000, the same as Mr Johnson’s policy chief Munira Mirza.

Government special advisers are classed as temporary civil servants who are appointed to provide political advice and assistance to ministers.

The Cabinet Office publishes details about the pay of special advisers every year.

This year’s report, which deals with the period between April 2019 and March 2020, revealed there were 102 special advisers working across the Government as at March 31.

However, that number has now increased, with 116 special advisers in Government jobs as at December 15.

The overall special adviser pay bill for the last financial year clocked in at £9.6million.

Some £6.9million of that cash went on salaries while £1.9million went on pension contributions and £800,000 went on National Insurance contributions.

The overall bill is the same as what was spent on special adviser pay in the 2018/19 financial year.

Special advisers are entitled to a severance payment when their minister loses their job.

Between April 2019 and March 2020 some £2.7million was paid out in severance payments.

This figure has been attributed to the high level of staff turnover due to the change in administration following Mr Johnson’s victory in the Tory leadership contest last year.

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Brexit working for the usual few, what about the many?

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Has the penny only just dropped, has been going on for years. You don’t think tony got Alastair Campbell to work for nothing do you. It’s a well oiled gravy train, just has a different rosette on the front at different times.

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Odd days:
Has the penny only just dropped, has been going on for years. You don’t think tony got Alastair Campbell to work for nothing do you. It’s a well oiled gravy train, just has a different rosette on the front at different times.

no, but for the first time in their 70 year history UNICEF are providing food for UK children.

This government is rotten to the core, worst I can ever remember.

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Darkside:

Odd days:
Has the penny only just dropped, has been going on for years. You don’t think tony got Alastair Campbell to work for nothing do you. It’s a well oiled gravy train, just has a different rosette on the front at different times.

no, but for the first time in their 70 year history UNICEF are providing food for UK children.

This government is rotten to the core, worst I can ever remember.

Look at who has resigned, and who hasn’t.
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All governments, all parties have problems.
It is how they react that shows their mettle.
■■■■■■■■ and Barnard Castle. Weasel and whine, whilst others in Gov (and now even TV presenters) get clobbered over COVID rules.
Jenrick, back scratching to ensure his own seat remains safe.
Patel. She didn’t resign, wasn’t sacked, and Alex Allen, Johnson’s ethics advisor(!) resigned in protest.
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All damaging for Parliament, the Tory party, and looking at how they have tried to pass legislation breaking trade agreements, damaging to the country’s reputation abroad.

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Govt rejects £33m proposal for more passport booths at Dover

The UK cabinet office has rejected a £33m proposal to double the capacity for French government passport checks at Dover, dooming UK passengers to long delays at the border post-Brexit.

The port of Dover, which handles 2.2 million passenger vehicles each year, requested the funding in October to help it to pay for additional Brexit-related border expenses.

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Odd days:
Has the penny only just dropped, has been going on for years. You don’t think tony got Alastair Campbell to work for nothing do you. It’s a well oiled gravy train, just has a different rosette on the front at different times.

We all know politicians over the years like to look after themselves when it comes to their salaries and expenses, but you have falied to notice, this article is mostly about how a prime minister’s adviser who had been in the job less then a year, had gone from being paid £95k to £145k just before being sacked.
Now, please, feel free to supply information about an other politician from this country’s post war history that received such a spectacular pay rise of over 45% in his first year of employment, just before being sucked.

When you plan to sack an employee, you don’t really reward them with a pay rise, do you.

What do you think this particular employee has done throughout his short term of employment to be rewarded an over 45% pay rise and then being sacked?

Has he distinguished himself with some ground breaking developments?
Was it all about being rewarded for an outstanding work towards preparing the country for a successful Brexit transition.
Oven ready deal perhaps?
Sunny uplands?

What was this over 45% pay rise about, and then a sack?

I’m all ears.

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He said something horrible about the Prime Mistress.

The Prime Mistress is now BJ’s leading advisor on international trade.

She has given the following advice to BJ for when he meets the leaders of India, China and the USA.

"Make sure you’ve got something soft to kneel on, close your eyes and breathe through your nose while nodding your head back and forth. To avoid accidents, cover your teeth with your lips.

“Here, practice on this carrot: it will help you get rid of your gag reflex.”