fuser84:
Winseer:
Carryfast:
dozy:
Now the lies of the leave idiots have been exposed , a people’s vote & a continuation of our partnership wit out European friends is the only the only way forward
The only lies were those told by Heath and all the other Federalist rabble to take us into the stinking EU 4th Reich.I’m guessing that the AfD or the FN aren’t part of your circle of European ‘friends’ your definition of friends obviously actually meaning only European Federalist morons.
We had a people’s vote in 2016 you know the one that your lot were happy enough with up until you lost it because the mountain of leave votes meant you couldn’t rig it well enough.
I think we can all see where this argument is heading as so often in the case of Federalism meeting the right of self determination and Nationalism head on throughout history.You can count the former Yugoslavia and the Austro Hungarian Empire and the 3rd Reich and the Soviet Union and Brit rule in Ireland all fitting the definition of Federalism.Now added to by the self appointed EUSSR 4th Reich,like all those,hopefully to be history when Nationalism smashes it one way or another sooner or later.
Perhaps if we ended this daft obsession with “the world’s stage” as a country - we might be able to rule ourselves better - regardless of what country it is, and what side of politics rules it.
If you want to be socialist - then pay for it all yourselves, rather than nick the wealth of other nations to fund it.
The only thing there should NEVER be any room for on the world’s stage today is “Political Expansion”.
The EU is wrong to want to add further nations following the collapse of the USSR.
America is wrong to interfere in the Middle East.
Brazil is wrong to offend sensible decency in the name of “Liberalism”.
Russia is wrong to discourage MORE freedom of movement than it has.
China is wrong to “Great Fireway” it’s internet the way it does.
Africa is wrong to demand independence one minute, and then hold out the begging bowl the next.
Britain is wrong to even treat on the world political scene, - until at least it gets it’s Empire back. We can’t afford it - yet.
So you think there’s no room for political expansion except restoring the British Empire or what? 
Restoring the British Empire - would force those countries already independent of it to STOP asking us for “Foreign Aid”. If we can’t have our Empire back - I’d settle for all the money we still hand these hypocrites to be re-patriated instead. 
If you don’t want to be part of the Empire - then pay your own way in the world!
Why Pay the EU money - for them to waste?
Why pay over Foreign Aid money - for international kiddie prostitution rings to waste?
Why pay over “Foreign Fines” and legal settlements - when we neither respect nor desire their laws over ours?
Why put up with those countries we’ve already beaten fair and square - to have any say whatsoever in our own future as a nation?
We’ve given it all more than 50 YEARS of “playing it their way” - and they’ve abused us, taken our money, not helped us out with “Aid TO the UK” over these years, and in combination “caused Austerity” in this country.
It has long since been the way that Labour - run up a tab - Tories - end up cut cut cutting to pay it back. Then the Left slag off the RIght for “unnecessary Austerity”.
Labour lost the plot - when they bailed out the Banks, rather than throw them all under the bus (as proper capitalism would have demanded!) .
My guess is that the Banks said “You cannot borrow any more money the way you like to - without us” and those idiots in 2008 - went for such a duff deal for the British Taxpayer!
The Tories - probably wouldn’t have been any different, it has to be said.
Here we are with Brexit around the corner - and there are still 48% of people (we’re told) that STILL want us to keep paying Brussels our contributions, and hand over that £39bn for pretty much bugger-all in return…
Who’s gonna still support Remain once Brexit is declared on-time for March 29th, and that 39bn starts getting spent on all manner of useful things to the public by our current government?
Surely “To spend a £39bn windfall” ALONE - is a wish-upon-a-star for ANY government, let alone one that knows it’s future is only possible via ending austerity, and leaving this Left-Wing Empire that has squanded so much of what used to be our Empire, Industrial Base, and Standing in the World these past 50 years.
Imagine this scenario:
March 29th - Brexit is COMPLETED says the PM…
March 30th - £39bn is re-allocated via a fresh budget, which will either be delivered by Hammond (if the reports that he wants to give that to Brussels are in fact false) or Gove - if they are TRUE…
March 31st - Plans are made to increase wages for NHS staff, build several new hospitals, announce plans to government-assist UK phamacueticals, and R&D projects.
April 1st - Theresa May calls a General Election for Thursday 25th April 2019
The platform will be "Vote Labour/Libdem/Tigger to reverse the now already done Brexit, take back that money spent, reverse the pay rises for the NHS staff, cancel all the infrastructure building plans, and announce to the EU that They can have the £39bn to waste on themselves after all.
Vote Conservative - to leave things exactly as they’ve already been done by that point…
Whodya think is gonna win that election?
Why bother to vote UKIP or for Farage’s splinter group? - Brexit is DONE!
Theresa May could stand anyone wearing a Blue Outfit in the places of those errant MPs who will surely be losing their seats, regardless of who wins that election…
She’ll win back a majority, AND have got rid of all the undesirable wets in her own party…
Autumn 2021 - Theresa May has done her five years, and announces that she’s stepping down to retire from Politics.
January 2022 - Andrea Leadsom - whom Theresa May has been grooming to succeed her ever since taking over as PM herself - becomes PM
June 2022 - The Conservative Party wins over 400 seats at the general election, and Andrea Leadsom duly becomes Britain’s THIRD Tory Female Prime Minister.
More Hospitals, Higher Wages, Better R&D, Lower Taxes, Better Roads (because not all of the Brexit dividend got spent just on the NHS…)
What’s been “backslid” upon?
We didn’t get around to kicking out any immigrants, other than the criminal ones. Turns out the country can “live with that”.
You only get to emmigrate to Britain - if you have desired trades and/or enough cash to support yourself - bringing the UK in line with most other countries in the world, especially the Commonwealth ones!
The EU Leftie Empire has collapsed meanwhile, and Tourism flourishes once again on the mainland continent, following individual ex-EU member states - being able to control their own currencies again.
The Ex-Pats don’t lose out - because a devalued local currency - merely pushes up the values of their properties overseas IN that devalued currency.
Defence spending gets increased, and Britain has closer ties with Trump’s America. All nations thinking of “helping themselves” to things like the Malvinos, Gibraltar, etc. - decide to go quietly into the night, and “drop it” - when Britain re-builds it’s shipping fleet again, Fishing, Merchant, and Military.
HS2 - gets scrapped, unless the EU decide they want to pay for it, which they won’t be able to, even if they wanted to.
The EU duly collapses, once it emerges that the entire Eurocurrency is a FRAUD. Turns out they have been printing it out-of-control for years and years, whilst quietly selling off tangible assets in bank vaults, especially in Luxumbourg.
The UK offers to buy all of the EU’s Food mountain stocks - at a firesale price of course - to provide much-needed financial aid.
All those still involved at the top levels of the EU and IMF that has aided and abetted the fraud - end up in Jail, tried by a Swiss court.
Britain, improves it’s relations with the Far East, starts buying the rather tasty North Korean food even (A rival for “Going for a Chinky” - if ever there was one!) whilst relations with Japan get put on the back burner by comparison, still some ire present over their bailing out of Pre-Brexit UK a little bit too hastily…
“My 2020 Vision”.
The EU is duly consigned to the dustbin of History, whilst the rest of the world - takes the ■■■■■
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