Breaking news : ian in big trouble in bulgaria

THIS IS NOT A WIND UP AND DEADLY SERIOUS.

22:48 - 19.10.2005
British truck with 23 tons of ammunition detained.

SOFIA - Police detained a British truck loaded with 23 tons of ammunition for entering the country without the needed permission, the press center of the Interior Ministry announced Wednesday.

The Police department in the Black Sea port of Burgas received a signal for the breakdown of a foreign truck near an oil station close to the village Vetren in the Burgas region. The driver of the truck is a 36-year-old British citizen. His companion is a 45-year-old man also of British nationality. Transport police found out that the vehicle entered the country from Romania on Tuesday with a transit pass. The transit transportation of such goods demands a permission from the Department commission of the Ministry of Economy and a document certifying that the cargo includes dual-use goods.
In addition the document, specifying that the cargo was ammunition, does not indicate whether the kind of bullets is battle or sporting bullets. In case they are battle bullets the truck needs a special ■■■■■■ of the Interior Ministry on account of the size and the peculiar purpose of the goods.
Police did not arrest the drivers but they will have to remain in the country until clearing the case. The truck is kept in the customs office in Burgas. The final destination of the cargo is Cyprus.
An investigation of the customs officers who let the truck without the necessary document is under way. Police is scheduled to open the sealed containers in order to ascertain what the kind of bullets is on Thursday.

bgnewsnet.com/story.php?lang=en&sid=20855


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ROB ,if you can get in touch and tell him to speak to one of the members of that firm i posted in the PM,and how is he, has he been in touch with
fair trails abroad just in case it all turns dirty, when you next in contact wish him well,and to use that firms contacts as it will make a difference,

oh dear, rob keep us informed mate, i suppose ya can,t blame the bulgarians for being cautious.lets just hope ian and his mate are ok and its sorted out rapid

I have just had Ian on the phone for an hour from Bulgaria telling me the tale.

I’ve lost track of the days of the week he said but basically, summing up :

Tried to get from Austria into Hungary and Hungary turned him around saying that he was overweight (Ian disagreed). Had to go back to British Embassy in Vienna to get the load re-distributed in the trailer and a stamp of some sort from Vienna to say it was okay.

Got to Hungary, okay was given. Through Hungary to Romanian border. Romanian officials said he needed an armed ■■■■■■ and he got one, but it cost a slab of cash. Ended up being taken up over a mountain pass with 8" inch of snow and eventually go to the border with Bulgaria.

Passport control at Ruse cleared them to enter but 20ft further down the road customs wanted to know what was in the back so broke seal and cracked open a pallet. Satisfied that all was okay they sent them on their way after re-sealing the trailer.

Ian and his co-driver Dave got horribly lost in Bulgaria because sign posts are non-existant but eventually they spied a sign for Istanbul saying 300km’s or something like that, so headed along there. Got to the border with Turkey and they were turned back because trucks can’t enter Turkey at that point, they must enter Turkey from Sofia, so they were sent allllllllllllll the way back to Burgas but the truck blew its turbo and head gasket at Vetren.

Long story cut short - snip - plod and customs came out after discovering that he didn’t have a special permit to transport ammunition across Bulgaria. Customs made it clear to him that it wasn’t his fault, he should have been given the special permit at the border at Ruse. However, they said they’d have to take the trailer off him and keep it for him until he could get one, so they did, and took it to a safe warehouse a few miles away, with Ian in the back of the car to see where it was going coz he’s responsible for the load. Happy that it was going to be looked after he went back to truck to meet the DAF mechanics who’d come up 300km from Sofia to look at his truck. Diagnosed that the engine was completely goosed and that it would take a week to fix and EUR 3500.

Ian then belled up DAF at Stoke who said they weren’t interested as Ian didn’t have any warantee. Turns out Ian bought the truck from Kelberg as it’s European spec so the warantee with DAF only covered up to £500. A lot of complications followed which Ian will detail when he gets back, but the outcome is that DAF have agreed to pay for the cost of the repairs.

Tomorrow (or today I should say), Ian and Dave - who are currently sleeping in a hotel in Sofia (got there in the back of the car that the DAF mechanics came from Sofia in) are going to get the special permit from Sofia that’s needed to move the trailer and are then hitching a ride in the DAF wrecker that’s coming up to Burgas from Sofia to pick up the unit. The wrecker is then pulling his unit to the safe warehouse to pick up his trailer - which he can now move because he’ll have the permit - and then take the whole shebang down to DAF at Sofia where repairs will start on his unit.

Ian and Dave are in high spirits despite everything that’s happened so far but do have concerns as to the security of the trailer at DAF at Sofia while the (estimated) week long repairs are carried out there. That will be tomorrow’s tale I’ve no doubt.

So far, they have been finding the British Embassy in the countries they’ve passed through nothing short of excellent and also the police/border control/custom authorities who have been most helpful and understanding.

They expect to be in Sofia until this time next week and then will hopefully be leaving for Istanbul and the far tip of Turkey to catch a ferry to Cyprus.

Another news link :

Munitions-Loaded British Truck Seized near Burgas.

Politics: 19 October 2005, Wednesday.

A heavy truck (TIR) with British registration was found carrying 23 tonnes of munitions. The driver, a British citizen, could not provide the documents necessary for such transport.

Police revealed the load of the truck quite by accident after the regional police in Burgas, on the Black Sea coast, was signaled about a heavy vehicle with technical failure.

The British driver, 36, was accompanied by another Briton, 45, Burgas police informed in a press statement.

According to customs documents, the truck entered Bulgaria as transit in the afternoon of October 18. The load was identified as bullets in the paperwork, but there was not specification if those were designed for fighting or hunting arms.

Any transit of munitions for war arms must be accompanied with a special permit issued by a body at the Ministry of Economy and a certificate issued for all goods with possible dual-use.

Neither document was found with the British heavy truck vehicle, the press statement added.

Source : novinite.com/view_news.php?id=53968

And another :

English License Plates TIR Investigated for Violations.

19 October 2005 | 17:07 | FOCUS News Agency

Burgas. The police department in Burgas (Eastern Bulgaria) received info for a damanged TIR truck near the OMV gas station in the village of Vetren, the press centre of the police announced. The TIR truck was with English license plates and two British citizens were travelling in it — the driver (36) and an accompanying man (45). Then the police found out that the truck was carrying ammunition and special experts arrived.
The National Service Border Police found out that the truck made a transit entering through the Danube Bridge border checkpoint on 18th October at 17:00 with documents for transit passage.
According to the documents there were 23 tons of bullets in the truck but their kind was not specified. A special permission was needed for such goods issued from the Interdepartmental Committee at the Ministry of Economy, as well as a document for goods for possible double usage. The check on the truck and its documentation is under way.

Source : focus-fen.net/index.php?cati … 74650&ch=0

It dont make any difference that he bought the truck from Kelberg.

So long as the first service is done by a DAF dealer & any subsequent parts,ie filters etc are genuine DAF parts they must honour the warranty

What a mess!!! Bet hes startin to wish he never took the job on. Hope he gets it all sorted!!!

Buying Trucks from Kelberg always poses a problem. I had the same thing with the DAF I got from them and Getting DAF to honour the warranty was a pain in the backside! But he should be covered, if its new it will come with a 2yr Manufacturers warranty which should be applicable in ANY country.

Keep up the reports Rob, your doing a gud job. Send Ian all our regards

Well…well…fancy that…you get a so called professional driver…starts his own business…and then decides to go international…well not satisfied with european work…thinks he can go where most brits stopped running years ago.
was obviously enticed by the rate being offered…and never stopped to think of the consequences, or to even price the job…
He mentioned he was going to carry Explosives…but it now turns out it was bullets…for Cyprus…so as well as guys on here telling him to go via Italy and Greece…thought he would run Romania and Bulgaria…and now look where he is…
If and its a big IF…he is found to have contravened the rules, which it looks like he has…then he is going to lose his business…the fines for contravention are very large.
My wife is flying out to BG on Sunday so will find out as much as she can, unless of course Ian gets posting.

It may seem like i`m having a go at him…but i am sorry for him, and wished that he had asked a professional for advice beforehand…or was he afraid he may get the load taken off of him…for he did say that it was going to be a regular run for all of his trucks…good luck to him

This sure makes the ferry incident pale into insignificance don’t it. Best wishes to both of them from this office.

…for he did say that it was going to be a regular run for all of his trucks

He may be having second thoughts now…!!!

Had another call from him earlier today.

He’s now got problems on his hands as the British Embassy at Sofia are washing their hands of his problem and are refusing to help him any further.

He’s stuck in Sofia with his co-driver Dave. They now can’t get the special permit to transport the load across Bulgaria and the conversation was left with Ian telling me that they’ve had to pay for an interpreter to try to get it sorted out.

If anyone can offer constructive help, suggestions or solutions then I’m sure he’d be glad of them.

Pete, who is your contact at Willi Betz Bulgaria as it is unclear who exactly they can help when the load is nothing to do with them? Surely that would be like a Bulgarian driver coming over here without a proper permit and phoning up Eddie Stobbard’s for help, who would then say “nothing to do with me” and put the phone down?

:confused:

so he’s stuck there with a trailer full of bullets, that he can’t get a permit to shift out of the country and presumedly nor can anyone else, to shift it for him?
might sound daft but would he be better off if the bulgarian goverment seized the load and sent him packing? thinking in terms of insurance for the load and him getting to keep his wagon n trailer.

Can he not agree to take the goods back out of the country instead of across and make his way to Greece from there ? As Greece is in the EU he may have a bit of an easier time ?

Just a thought. Or Get another company who dont or wont have the problems he is facing to carry on with the load, obviuosly he will have to sort a rate out.

I fear he could be in it big time here, is his truck fixed ?

Theres a company in Sofia called BioMet, see a lot of their trucks here in the UK:
They may be able to help

CENTRAL OFFICE

phone +359 (2) 963 13 66, 963 13 81
phone +359 (2) 963 13 82, 868 94 41
phone +359 (2) 868 94 43, 868 95 66
phone/fax: +359 (2) 963 13 82
phone/fax: +359 (2) 868 88 92

BUSINESS CENTER “LOZENETZ”
35 N. Vaptzarov Blvd.
1407 Sofia, BULGARIA

Cargo transportation:
slav@biomet-bg.com

Passenger transportation:
office@biomet-bg.com

Biomet have a rep in London so Im sure they will have English speakers

GLOBAL TRADE & TRANSPORT LTD.
IMEX House
205 Atlas Business Center
Oxgate lane, Staples Corner,
NW2 7HJ
Tel.: 0208 438 0600 / 0601
Fax: 0208 438 0670
Mr. Sergey Toumbev

Now made the BBC news over here :

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4360262.stm

Bulgaria holds arms cargo Britons

Two Britons transporting a lorry-load of munitions have been arrested by police in Bulgaria.

The pair were detained after their lorry broke down near the Black Sea port of Burgas on Wednesday.

Bulgarian police say they do not have the permits needed to transport munitions through the country.

The UK Foreign Office says the men were transporting a commercial supply of arms to Cyprus. It says it is giving the men the consular help they need.

According to a Bulgarian news agency, the pair did not have documents they needed specifying whether their cargo of ammunition was intended for fighting or hunting.

Any munitions cargo would need a permit from the country’s ministry of economics and a certificate issued for all armaments with possible dual use, the agency added.

I’d like to say I am surprised that this has happened but I’m not. I thought at the time that Ian was setting off on this trip on a wing and a prayer and with very little planning. I couldn’t understand how he had taken the job on but wasn’t sure of the route, ferry crossings etc. How can you price a job or know if the rate is correct without knowing these important facts.

Still I wish him all the best in sorting it out and I really hope it doesn’t leave too big a hole in his pocket.

Of course we should have a great diary and pictures to look forward to on his return. :wink: :smiley:

The plot thickens,when you consider this load was not supposed to be dangerous by road.What about the firm who he is carrying the load for.They must surely bear some responsibility for the current situation.

Robbies Dad:
The plot thickens,when you consider this load was not supposed to be dangerous by road.What about the firm who he is carrying the load for.They must surely bear some responsibility for the current situation.

What is the situation regarding ammunition and haz plates etc? You see military vehicles with the orange boards up but I guess it could come down to what kind of ammunition.

With a load of bullets on board I think some indication might be handy should the vehicle catch fire and those things start cooking off. :open_mouth: :wink: :smiley:

im sorry for ian all this trouble i wouldnt wish it on anyone but i bet par of thecourse with jobs like this. to be honest who would bet on a brand new xf breaking down and if it hadnt broke down he would have got away with it.