Dolph:
Is it so hard to drive truck in UK or people are simply wining like babies? Don’t you get directions from dispatch for pick ups and drop off’s? For the driving from or to a certain place you need truckers atlas.
I would love to see British driver in EE delivery without sat nav, after that he/she will be praising the Lord for British infrastructure and road signage
This is quality. Best laugh I’ve had in days. Throw a stone at any foreign reg’d truck at a services, and you probably find at least 2 sat navs in the windscreen… And a laptop…
strange I know a load who got throughout most of EU without sat navs, a Europe map was enough and a bit of the local language got me through ok.
Beginning to think that Dolph is bit of a troll, didn’t realise that the UK had the monoply on narrow roads, after all there are no narrow roads in Spain, France, Portugal, Holland or insert any other European country of choice. As for praising the Lord heard that he is rumuoured to have many skills didn’t realise he gave directions too
bonnie lass:
Have you not got a truck road map ? I use mine for all my route planning .
I wouldn’t buy a sav nav personally, they can be unreliable and what if there is no signal !
In theory there are 24 satellites in geo-synchronous orbit (they stay in the same place relative to the earth), there’s shouldn’t really be any black-spots as you will have partial signals from at least 10 satellites at any one time.
bonnie lass:
Have you not got a road map ? I use mine for all my route planning .
I wouldn’t buy a sav nav personally, they can be unreliable and what if there is no signal !
When was the last time you checked out satnav, they are no way unreliable and the only time I don’t get a signal is in tunnels such as Dartford or the Blackwall,I think they are a must for all drivers alongside a good map and pure drivers instinct.Thank you.
The last time I checked out a sat nav was the end of January this year, as it happened , someone else was driving & wanted to use their satnav , which by the way on quite a few routes there are 'black spots’regarding no signal, so needless to say the satnav was doomed , & out came the map
There have been loads of trucks taken unsuitable roads & got well jammed in , thats probably why they started to put the 'dont follow the satnav ’ signs up at end of the unsuitable roads for hgv’s. So yes , satnavs are still unreliable
Its not the satnavs that are unreliable it is the drivers following them blindly that is the problem,best thing ever as far as I’m concerned and yes I can also follow maps,but a satnav is just an electronic map so that’ll do me nicely thank you.
bonnie lass:
There have been loads of trucks taken unsuitable roads & got well jammed in , thats probably why they started to put the 'dont follow the satnav ’ signs up at end of the unsuitable roads for hgv’s. So yes , satnavs are still unreliable
That’s not the SatNav that’s unreliable, it’s the muppets stupid enough to follow it!
I’ve got a car based one, I use it quite happily as a quick guide to show ETA.
Not prepared to pay a fortune for a truck one , as in my opinion , it would make me lazy. Least with car one I stay focussed enough to LOOK at roads it wants to use and assess if I can actually get down them.
A satnav great for new places and I wouldn’t be without one, but if , for whatever reason I couldn’t use it, my worlds not suddenly going to end and I know I’ll still get to drop old fashioned way of asking garages/posties/ joe bloggs as I get near to the town it’s in
bonnie lass:
Have you not got a truck road map ? I use mine for all my route planning .
I wouldn’t buy a sav nav personally, they can be unreliable and what if there is no signal !
In theory there are 24 satellites in geo-synchronous orbit (they stay in the same place relative to the earth), there’s shouldn’t really be any black-spots as you will have partial signals from at least 10 satellites at any one time.
Spot on that is but the stick in the muds still won’t have it,well put.
Dolph:
Because drivers become brain lazy when comes to directions, maps etc. relying solely on sat nav sooner or later will gets you in a lot of trouble when it brakes down.
Watching air crash investigations experts say, relying to much on gadgets and computers will lesser your skill and knowledge over time which will lead to failure.
Having read many of your posts I think you need to ask your mum if she ever met Carryfast on one of his holidays in Yugoslavia many years ago?
Have been in a truck supplied with a satnag and it was utter carp.
Son started driving just before christmas so got him a tomtom truck, multidrop Southern Scotland & Northern England wasn’t long before he got himself a truckers map I suspect he’s also stocked up on A-Zs as well.
Personally I’d have both, but a trucknav is handy for ETA and whether you’ve got a good chance of getting to your next destination before needing a break, also handy for the last couple of miles to a new destination.
I would guess that those who blame satnav are using a car version, nowadays the trucknavs are extremely reliable, though Tomtom truckers did have a glitch a few years ago which meant they couldn’t pick up the satellites for a month or so but they came out with a patch that fixed it. Key is to update once a month or so. Traffic Live is quite handy.
bonnie lass:
Have you not got a truck road map ? I use mine for all my route planning .
I wouldn’t buy a sav nav personally, they can be unreliable and what if there is no signal !
When was the last time you checked out satnav, they are no way unreliable and the only time I don’t get a signal is in tunnels such as Dartford or the Blackwall,I think they are a must for all drivers alongside a good map and pure drivers instinct.Thank you.
I disagree. I’ve had mine lose signal on Hammersmith Broadway, panicked and ended up going to Kingston via Wimbledon. Same again in the city centre of Birmingham with similar results.
There are still loads of places England, Scotland and Wales where you just can’t get a signal. I was heading up the A16, & at the time there were two sat navs in the truck, one keep insisting every few minutes,for some miles for me to take a left turn , , there is nowt but a huge / massive wide deep ditch all along more or less the lenght of the road for quite some miles. On the way back neither would pick up the correct road around Peterborough either…I’ll stick with the truck map
I’ve had a Sat Nav for many years and been all over the place (including the A16 and the Centre of London) and still haven’t found a black spot except certain tunnels. Any unreliability I’ve seen in sat nav use will have more to do with operator error than equipment faults, but the same can be said with maps.
htmldude:
…there’s shouldn’t really be any black-spots as you will have partial signals from at least 10 satellites at any one time.
Some sat navs seem to have much better receivers than others. Older Tomtom’s for example I’ve noticed often operate when there’s at least 5 satellites in clear view according to the display, so would fail in the middle of a city (grey screen), whereas the newer ones tend to work pretty much anywhere.
They do seem to have their oddities however even with clear view. I know there’s small areas of Scunthorpe and Bolton-under-Dearne as a couple of examples where my 2 year old Tomtom just gets completely lost with it jumping several streets randomly and simply unable to pinpoint its location. Absolutely no idea why, but it might explain the complaints about losing signals on open roads - maybe some strange natural radio signal gets in the way?
Doesn’t of course help when the maps are out of date and it thinks you’re driving in the middle of a field!
Dolph:
Because drivers become brain lazy when comes to directions, maps etc. relying solely on sat nav sooner or later will gets you in a lot of trouble when it brakes down.
Watching air crash investigations experts say, relying to much on gadgets and computers will lesser your skill and knowledge over time which will lead to failure.
Having read many of your posts I think you need to ask your mum if she ever met Carryfast on one of his holidays in Yugoslavia many years ago?
just ask about some EE jet from the 50’s dolph answer will prove or deny this in a few posts.
Dolph:
Because drivers become brain lazy when comes to directions, maps etc. relying solely on sat nav sooner or later will gets you in a lot of trouble when it brakes down.
Watching air crash investigations experts say, relying to much on gadgets and computers will lesser your skill and knowledge over time which will lead to failure.
Having read many of your posts I think you need to ask your mum if she ever met Carryfast on one of his holidays in Yugoslavia many years ago?
Is British education(geography classes) so bad, that you cant make difference between Yugoslavia and Bulgaria? Its like saying Scotland is England or vice versa.
But thanks for the stupid remark.
Almost every day on this forum is a news of driver that got himself stuck in some village/town in UK because he/she trusted blindly the sat nav.
Dolph:
Almost every day on this forum is a news of driver that got himself stuck in some village/town in UK because he/she trusted blindly the sat nav.
100% true. What’s also true is that invariably there is a white number plate on the back of the vehicle.
Mine throw a hissy fit in Preston today, switching roads willy nilly. It’s not often it does this though but I learnt the hard way solely relying on the Sat-Nav. Now when I get a drop, I punch in the postcode which normally gives me a rough area because many places we go share postcodes then I crack out Google maps so I get street view up so I can plan a route in. Had to do that today with my first drop in Kendel. Sat-Nav was going to lead me up the really twisting village road. Quick Google and boom, found the easier back entrance!
Sat-Navs have their place, you’d be mad not to use one now but you should always second guess it because if it can lead you wrong, it will!
Dolph:
Because drivers become brain lazy when comes to directions, maps etc. relying solely on sat nav sooner or later will gets you in a lot of trouble when it brakes down.
Watching air crash investigations experts say, relying to much on gadgets and computers will lesser your skill and knowledge over time which will lead to failure.
Having read many of your posts I think you need to ask your mum if she ever met Carryfast on one of his holidays in Yugoslavia many years ago?
Is British education(geography classes) so bad, that you cant make difference between Yugoslavia and Bulgaria. Its like saying Scotland is England or vice versa.
But thanks for the stupid remark.
I know you’re from Bulgaria and that’s not Yugoslavia, but there things called roads you know. and yes it was a tongue in cheek remark, to highlight that yours and carryfast’s posts are so similar in their arrogance and repetitiveness.
Dolph:
Almost every day on this forum is a news of driver that got himself stuck in some village/town in UK because he/she trusted blindly the sat nav.
And quite often they’re showing an EE drivers getting lost and stuck in the great signposted and easy to navigate infrastructure that is the UK.
Drivers of all nationalities got lost and got their trucks stuck following maps, but we didn’t have phone cameras, social media and the internet to record it and broadcast it round the World in minutes.
The Sat Nav is a tool for a job, but it doesn’t make allowances for the tools who blindly follow them.
Dolph:
Because drivers become brain lazy when comes to directions, maps etc. relying solely on sat nav sooner or later will gets you in a lot of trouble when it brakes down.
Watching air crash investigations experts say, relying to much on gadgets and computers will lesser your skill and knowledge over time which will lead to failure.
Having read many of your posts I think you need to ask your mum if she ever met Carryfast on one of his holidays in Yugoslavia many years ago?
Is British education(geography classes) so bad, that you cant make difference between Yugoslavia and Bulgaria. Its like saying Scotland is England or vice versa.
But thanks for the stupid remark.
Almost every day on this forum is a news of driver that got himself stuck in some village/town in UK because he/she trusted blindly the sat nav.
And you will see the same on the internet in every European country being an idiot with a satnav is not exclusive to the UK as you would have us believe take your blinkers off and accept that there are good and bad everywhere personally I have seen far mre satnav cockups in Europe than I have in the UK
Dolph:
Because drivers become brain lazy when comes to directions, maps etc. relying solely on sat nav sooner or later will gets you in a lot of trouble when it brakes down.
Watching air crash investigations experts say, relying to much on gadgets and computers will lesser your skill and knowledge over time which will lead to failure.
Having read many of your posts I think you need to ask your mum if she ever met Carryfast on one of his holidays in Yugoslavia many years ago?
Is British education(geography classes) so bad, that you cant make difference between Yugoslavia and Bulgaria. Its like saying Scotland is England or vice versa.
But thanks for the stupid remark.
Almost every day on this forum is a news of driver that got himself stuck in some village/town in UK because he/she trusted blindly the sat nav.
And you will see the same on the internet in every European country being an idiot with a satnav is not exclusive to the UK as you would have us believe take your blinkers off and accept that there are good and bad everywhere personally I have seen far mre satnav cockups in Europe than I have in the UK
And where did I say its only Brits?
But from you guys I found out that in UK some drivers refuse to drive if the truck is not automatic or has no sat nav fited in, which sounds idiotic to me. Sorry but a driver with 30 years under the belt to walk off because no sat nav is…
Or another thing, people here demand EU nationals pass UK exam, when reading a bit more, I found out you can take you test on automatic and have rear view camera…yeah people will pass the test, but what will happen when they are on their own out on the road!
I agree that there are good and bad drivers everywhere, even though if you try to read this very same forum(as an outsider) you will find out that according to Brits, EE drivers are the worst. So much for Brits not heaving blinkers.
bonnie lass:
Have you not got a truck road map ? I use mine for all my route planning .
I wouldn’t buy a sav nav personally, they can be unreliable and what if there is no signal !
In theory there are 24 satellites in geo-synchronous orbit (they stay in the same place relative to the earth), there’s shouldn’t really be any black-spots as you will have partial signals from at least 10 satellites at any one time.
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Unfortunately there are still black spot around, & yes it does mean that you end up with no signal for a while.
Dolph in 5 or 6 years time when BG has updated it’s fleet then you too will have guys taking their tests with an auto box all the new BG lorries that I see are automatic whether we like it or not that is how it is now, unless every BG haulier is going pay the extra for a manual box then once you have finished with Europe’s hand me downs you to will have a mainly auto fleet. With regard to the cameras on test have not heard anything about that one way or another so can’t comment on it.
mazzer:
Dolph in 5 or 6 years time when BG has updated it’s fleet then you too will have guys taking their tests with an auto box all the new BG lorries that I see are automatic whether we like it or not that is how it is now, unless every BG haulier is going pay the extra for a manual box then once you have finished with Europe’s hand me downs you to will have a mainly auto fleet. With regard to the cameras on test have not heard anything about that one way or another so can’t comment on it.
Only time will tell, you might be right or not, because the same thing was said years ago when automatic cars came out in big numbers. But most of the people here continue to drive manual.
Also here(for good or bad) is mandatory for driving school lorry to be manual.
So yes , satnavs are still unreliable 
