I’ve never been a huge fan of the Conservative party (although the alternatives are no better) but I’ve never known a politico to be so on board with what we want…
Boris Johnson warned the road haulage industry it cannot expect to rely on cheap immigrant labour in the future - as fuel shortages got worse in London and the south east.
On a visit to Leeds General Infirmary, Mr Johnson said: “Of course we keep everything under review but what we don’t want to do is go back to a situation in which we basically allowed the road haulage industry to be sustained with a lot of low-wage immigration that meant that wages didn’t go up and the quality of the job didn’t go up.
“The weird thing is now, that people don’t want to go into the road haulage industry, don’t want to be lorry drivers, precisely because you have that mass immigration approach that held wages down, that held the quality of the job down.”
He added: “I think what the UK shouldn’t be doing is to continue to try to be a low-wage, low-skills, low-productivity economy.
“People don’t want that. They want us to be a well-paid, well-skilled, highly productive economy and that’s where we’re going.”
Over to you then Mr Starmer, when you’ve finished pontificating about who does and doesn’t have a cervix. You know, the sort of thing that really matters to your voter base.
I work as a self employed musician and music tutor as well as a driver. And, had the conditions for drivers been better would probably have done a lot more driving over the last few years.
But it’s pretty poor in comparison with other jobs. With exceptions of course. But not great in general.
Whether the British Public will agree with Boris - when they can’t get fuel and they can’t buy an indecent amount of ■■■■ they don’t need at Xmas, is perhaps more uncertain…
‘‘Quality of the job’’ is a telling phrase.
It doesn’t sound like the words one of the many right on focus or nudge groups would come up with, so where did it come from?
Won’t be getting out hopes up, our DePfeffel is a dyed in the wool believer in telling them what they want to hear, however its a breath of fresh air about the state of our industry and the people, well repesented by the RHA etc, who have spearheaded the race to the bottom over many many years, he didn’t tell the RHA what they wanted to hear and whilst i hold no candle for the man or his party one must give him credit for saying the right thing, even if the reality down the line is somewhat below expectations, as we mostly expect.
Bore-us just jumps on the horse that looks likely to win, he has no track record of backing any horse for longer than needed to garner support.
I generally like the Turks, but the USA/Turkish abomination that is Boris - no way - just a CONservative ARTIST, and he’s not even proper UKIP Brown skinned like the rest of the True Blue Conservative Cabinet.
whisperingsmith:
Bore-us just jumps on the horse that looks likely to win, he has no track record of backing any horse for longer than needed to garner support
Yep.
In his own “special” way Johnson has always been a good speech giver and persuader.
Just ask (at different times of course) anyone and everyone.
I watched him on tv and in my humble opinion he said all the right thing apart from hours they belong in the 50s ,I hope he is true but he let the waspi women down …illegal immigration so watch this space …but Labour …dead party walking
This is what Labour did not get about brexit. They thought it was about anti-immigration and racism. No, that’s not the case.
I have nothing put respect for Romanian’s who move to a different country to find work.
But how has being in the EU benefited me? I think I have been to the EU half a dozen times so the free movement of people has not benefited me. I have had no really tangible benefit to being apart of the EU.
Yet what I have noticed first hand is wage stagnation and an influx of foreign drivers in the industry.
Does not take a genius to work out that if wages are not going up and all your work colleagues either dont speak English or barely speak it then there may be a link.
If Labour want to win the next general election they need to learn this. Working class people are concerned about immigration because they have seen first hand its impact when it is left unchecked. They are not racist people they are just concerned about wages being driven to the ground or struggling to find work.
Personally, I am not even against immigration but it should be us who choose who comes here not some “Free-movement” system that allows anyone who manages to get into the EU to come across.
Like NHS workers for example or Teachers. We don’t have to rely on just EU workers for this now. For example one of Cuba’s biggest exports is healthcare workers.
Another issue is the crossing to France. A lot has been made of people crossing by boat. Yea, it ■■■■■ but the main issue before was people were getting in Trucks and with no checks people were just hiding in the back. They rely on boats now because getting into the UK by hiding in the back of a trailer is now harder.
You see Nigel Farage quoting how many people are crossing by boat everyday. Just imagine how many came across via truck and trailer without us even knowing about it.
Heck people did not really care about illegal immigrants making the crossing until after Brexit. It was just seen as a thing you have to deal with if your in the EU.
A comment from another website, that I fully agree with;
I am a fan of continuous professional development, but the current driver CPC system is widely seen as unfit for purpose and I tend to agree. It is on the one hand a box-ticking exercise whilst on the other it is perceived as a major disincentive to getting behind the wheel. My strong recommendation is that DCPC is suspended for a period, allowing drivers to be employed immediately and then given specific induction training and monitoring, by the employing company or agency, over the first three years. Thereafter, if it is still seen as essential, it should be properly re-developed on a national basis based on national need with a full supporting training needs analysis and proper monitoring of achievement standards. For now though, park it.
Driver Training.
DVLA need to be gripped. Whilst covid has been prevalent managing many issues has been tricky, but everyone else seems to have overcome, many institutions commendably so. The noteable exception has been DVLA and the current backlogs, be they processing of new applications, testing of vehicles, renewal of licences, or managing medicals and medical queries, have been terrible. In my time I have been responsible for the driver training for all 3 of the armed services, doing so at the height of operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. Training was being done on a truly industrial scale; the same sort of approach needs to happen now. Doing the same-old-same-old is not good enough.
Driver facilities.
Drivers just need to be treated “right”. Not molly coddled, but just treated properly, individually and collectively. Short term and overnight parking should be free at service areas and the like; trucks parked in dirty laybys with no facilities and the risk of being robbed in the night simply is not good enough in the 21st century. No new road should be built, or existing road updated, without the inclusion of proper rest areas for trucks with toilets etc – for both sexes. Local authorities should be charged with providing for trucks and their drivers. And this change needs to be shouted right now and repeated loudly and regularly. Look after the people and the people will look after businesses, and the nation.
In summary there will be no reversal of the growing shortfall unless some real things, with real impact, are announced then quickly followed up. This will not be solved by inviting people to click on some website links."
> adam277: > Personally, I am not even against immigration but it should be us who choose who comes here not some “Free-movement” system that allows anyone who manages to get into the EU to come across. > Like NHS workers for example or Teachers. We don’t have to rely on just EU workers for this now. For example one of Cuba’s biggest exports is healthcare workers.
The ending of Free Movement impacts us more than the EU - we have lost our rights of movement.
WE are now in a similar position to those of the Soviet Block pre-Freedom.
Those of us of a certain age remember exiting Soviet Block Countries and the strict cab & truck searches. They were carried out to find anyone trying to leave the Soviet wonderland.
We are not quite as bad as that here yet, but I for one am seriously p1$$ed off with my loss of free movement - I tell a lie "I am realy, really, 4king Angry about it"
whisperingsmith: > adam277: > Personally, I am not even against immigration but it should be us who choose who comes here not some “Free-movement” system that allows anyone who manages to get into the EU to come across. > Like NHS workers for example or Teachers. We don’t have to rely on just EU workers for this now. For example one of Cuba’s biggest exports is healthcare workers.
The ending of Free Movement impacts us more than the EU - we have lost our rights of movement.
WE are now in a similar position to those of the Soviet Block pre-Freedom.
Those of us of a certain age remember exiting Soviet Block Countries and the strict cab & truck searches. They were carried out to find anyone trying to leave the Soviet wonderland.
We are not quite as bad as that here yet, but I for one am seriously p1$$ed off with my loss of free movement - I tell a lie "I am realy, really, 4king Angry about it"
Ye I can understand that. But as someone who grew up in a poor area. 99% of people never even left the country and had no real use for it. Yet they saw all the immigrants coming over and living in the area doing a lot of the low skills jobs. We are now in a position of say New Zealand or Australia or Singapore. They don’t seem to bothered about simple checks when visiting another country. It’s not that bad.
Personally, If I decide to go on holiday to Italy it does not bother me one bit if I have to apply for a visa. I have to do it with most other countries anyway.
having traveled to france since the mid 80’s for holidays and to spain italy germany switzland portugal etc i have never ever once had an issue at customs. more often then not we could barly get out passports out the window before they were waving us on. all free movement has done is allow criminals to evade capture more easily.
whisperingsmith: > adam277: > Personally, I am not even against immigration but it should be us who choose who comes here not some “Free-movement” system that allows anyone who manages to get into the EU to come across. > Like NHS workers for example or Teachers. We don’t have to rely on just EU workers for this now. For example one of Cuba’s biggest exports is healthcare workers.
The ending of Free Movement impacts us more than the EU - we have lost our rights of movement.
WE are now in a similar position to those of the Soviet Block pre-Freedom.
Those of us of a certain age remember exiting Soviet Block Countries and the strict cab & truck searches. They were carried out to find anyone trying to leave the Soviet wonderland.
We are not quite as bad as that here yet, but I for one am seriously p1$$ed off with my loss of free movement - I tell a lie "I am realy, really, 4king Angry about it"
Ye I can understand that. But as someone who grew up in a poor area. 99% of people never even left the country and had no real use for it. Yet they saw all the immigrants coming over and living in the area doing a lot of the low skills jobs. We are now in a position of say New Zealand or Australia or Singapore. They don’t seem to bothered about simple checks when visiting another country. It’s not that bad.
Personally, If I decide to go on holiday to Italy it does not bother me one bit if I have to apply for a visa. I have to do it with most other countries anyway.
no visa needed provided your not staying for more than 90 days (aprox 3 months) and have a valid uk passport
Harry Monk:
Over to you then Mr Starmer, when you’ve finished pontificating about who does and doesn’t have a cervix. You know, the sort of thing that really matters to your voter base.
cooper1203:
having traveled to france since the mid 80’s for holidays and to spain italy germany switzland portugal etc i have never ever once had an issue at customs. more often then not we could barly get out passports out the window before they were waving us on. all free movement has done is allow criminals to evade capture more easily.
Your not wrong. A lot of stolen cars end up in Romania, Bulgaria and eventually Albania. Soon as your crossed the channel your basically free. A process made a lot easier by free movement of people. It’s why Romania is basically the biggest chop-shop in Europe.
> cooper1203: > having traveled to france since the mid 80’s for holidays and to spain italy germany switzland portugal etc i have never ever once had an issue at customs. more often then not we could barly get out passports out the window before they were waving us on. all free movement has done is allow criminals to evade capture more easily.
You can’t do that now cooper- you have to wait in a long queue with every other Non-EU citizen - you don’t get waved on any more, we are now a 3rd World Country
whisperingsmith:
The ending of Free Movement impacts us more than the EU - we have lost our rights of movement. WE are now in a similar position to those of the Soviet Block pre-Freedom.
That is just nonsense. You are completely at liberty to travel to France, Germany or any other eu country. To compare the post-Brexit situation for a UK citizen to life in the USSR is just grotesque.
You can’t have much of a valid argument if you have to come out with stuff like this, can you?
Harry Monk:
Over to you then Mr Starmer, when you’ve finished pontificating about who does and doesn’t have a cervix. You know, the sort of thing that really matters to your voter base.
Harry Monk:
Over to you then Mr Starmer, when you’ve finished pontificating about who does and doesn’t have a cervix. You know, the sort of thing that really matters to your voter base.
Harry Monk:
Over to you then Mr Starmer, when you’ve finished pontificating about who does and doesn’t have a cervix. You know, the sort of thing that really matters to your voter base.
Thats just ridiculous.
Personally I cant understand as a truck driver how you can not see the immediate benefit brexit has brought in terms of wage increases across the industry. Brexit has been good for truck drivers yet you still get a few on here who act like they would rather be in the EU working for like £9-10 an hour.
Maybe I am just a selfish person who only cares about myself but I would rather not compete with drivers who live in a country who have a cost of living 3-4x less then myself.
