wirksworth rod:
no one as pickt up on the [zb] there was 2 bin men who jumpt out of the truck why dident one of them pull the hand brake on they must of sean him do it 100 s of times
Armchair analyst lol
Seany:
wirksworth rod:
no one as pickt up on the [zb] there was 2 bin men who jumpt out of the truck why dident one of them pull the hand brake on they must of sean him do it 100 s of timesArmchair analyst lol
sorry fore beaing stupid onley bin driving 34 years last 22 adr never mind back to me armchair
wirksworth rod:
Seany:
wirksworth rod:
no one as pickt up on the [zb] there was 2 bin men who jumpt out of the truck why dident one of them pull the hand brake on they must of sean him do it 100 s of timesArmchair analyst lol
sorry fore beaing stupid onley bin driving 34 years last 22 adr never mind back to me armchair
Come on Rod, you can’t count those years on Charlie Webster’s Scammell as REAL driving… 
It will all become clear at the inquest no doubt, no matter what conclusions we come to on here.
Pete.
wirksworth rod:
no one as pickt up on the [zb] there was 2 bin men who jumpt out of the truck why dident one of them pull the hand brake on they must of sean him do it 100 s of times
I nibbled at it but shyed away waiting for the investigation to complete. Another poster has explained this may not be possible due to crew cab design, I am still keeping an open mind though.
windrush:
wirksworth rod:
Seany:
wirksworth rod:
no one as pickt up on the [zb] there was 2 bin men who jumpt out of the truck why dident one of them pull the hand brake on they must of sean him do it 100 s of timesArmchair analyst lol
sorry fore beaing stupid onley bin driving 34 years last 22 adr never mind back to me armchair
Come on Rod, you can’t count those years on Charlie Webster’s Scammell as REAL driving…
It will all become clear at the inquest no doubt, no matter what conclusions we come to on here.
Pete.
ha ha ha made my day pete 150 gardener 6 speed david brown box heater got warm after 25 mile good old days cold morn ad to put cold start button in how meney drivers will remember that all the best rod
pete you rememer w h phillips my dad drovefor carny 40 od years triggerwas his nick namepasst away years a go carney gave me a job week after 21 year old his yongest driver
The-Snowman:
merc0447:
5 pages…2 pages talking about a major incident…3 pages talking pish about some fandan in Sunderland!mmm
I agree. Not worth it at all. I’m bailing out now. Some of us have cheapened the thread enough (and I include myself in that). We will never agree on how far is too far but one thing we DO all agree on in that it is a very dangerous precident to start arresting people for what others find offensive
well said…I don’t get arrested though, i just keep getting my posts removed 
atlas man:
The people who think the crew could have got to the handbrake do not know anything about the design of a crew cab, the crew are not sat at the side of the driver they are sat behind him with a safety bar to prevent them being thrown out of the cab and also would probably been wearing seatbelts so the chance of them being able to reach the handbrake to do anything is very small a
my deepest sympathy to all the people involved in this tragic accident
it all depends on the design,you are probably right in what you say but I drove a refuse vehicle on cardboard recycling and the handbrake was on the left of the drivers seat and the crew sat to my left,so they or he would have had a chance of grabbing the brake should anything have happened to me
it was a shortened truck,hence only 2 loaders,the emergency handbrake would be in the middle of the cab and readily accessable to the scaffys…they obviously just naturally kakked themselves as it took off.who wouldn’t apart from clark kent or bruce willis…? whoever pulled the lever would be hamburger hero through the windscreen.
If it had been possible for a crew member to reach and apply the handbrake at some point, there no telling what the outcome might have been.Should that have sadly resulted in even worse loss of life, I can just imagine the whoops of glee from greedy parasite lawyers anxious to claim that this action was incorrect, therefore wishing to prove that the unfortunate ‘hero’ should be strung up and crucified.
I love the fact some people think the other two were sat there enjoying the ride…
Don’t you think if there was any possibility of them doing something, they would have done?
I’m sure the conversation in the cab was something like,
“oh hey bob looks like Daves had a heart attack”
“Oh yeah, that ain’t good is it, look we are knocking a few people down here, maybe we should do something?”
" nah, it’s alright, we’ll stop soon enough,
"Yeah I guess so… So, what you doing for Xmas then? "
109LWB:
I love the fact some people think the other two were sat there enjoying the ride…
Its not a fact, no one has said this…
Your drama queen antics will just take this thread down a pointless path. Lets see what ‘facts’ the investigation throws up first.
Has the driver’s name been released yet?
I’d hate to think it’s being kept under wraps for political reasons here…
I can safely say there is no ill feeling (Pardon the pun) to the driver here in Glasgow.
I have seen several ‘No shame, no blame’ type notes left on the two memorials in the city.
It was a long distance for such an event, but in reality still a very short distance so I don’t think the crew would have had the time to process what was going on let alone intervene.
It appears, having from walked past the scene several times since, that the lorry would have been going very slowly by the final impact as there is no more damage to the building than a cracked pane of glass.
Dipper_Dave:
109LWB:
I love the fact some people think the other two were sat there enjoying the ride…Its not a fact, no one has said this…
Your drama queen antics will just take this thread down a pointless path. Lets see what ‘facts’ the investigation throws up first.
People on the thread have stated why didn’t the others pull the handbrake… That is a fact…
The facts of the investigation are irrelevant to my point, I’m pointing out the FACT that people honestly beleive the crew didn’t try and stop this happening… As if they think that in a split second you can react to a situation you never thought possible and stop it from happening.
Having been in a situation which you never thought possible and having to react, I can assure you its not as simple as “just pulling the handbrake”.
What did or didn’t happen in the cab is a moot point. The accident happened… As was clear for all to witness.
Winseer:
Has the driver’s name been released yet?I’d hate to think it’s being kept under wraps for political reasons here…
well its being held back for some particular reason…plus still no admission as to heart attack,or otherwise.(■■■■■■■■■■ hes pink,itl be the 2nd reason…if his name is similar to Mustapha fullbin or sheikh mawheely,then itl be the usual don’t offend the Taliban stuff though I would think he would be of the pink persuasion being a glesgae scaffy in the 1st instance. whatever reason there keeping it under wraps means somethings being worked out before disclosure to suit the powers that be.
any politicians should be reaching out to the people of Glasgow over all this - not window setting for any reason whatsoever.
Otherwise, the two examples given above will do fine as “reasons for political interference”, loath that it should be involved at all.
It’s even possible that the other crew might have not been in full communication with the driver. Not everyone has to be from the same country after all.
“Uggh… My chest! - Pull that brake on, and call me an ambulance please guys” wouldn’t be very effective if you, the driver were say, Serbian, and the mates were Bulgarians for example…
If it had been any of us at the wheel - we would be reading the inevitable headlines of A driver was arrested at the scene. I’m also thinking here IF an actual medical issue is not the root cause of this runaway vehicle.
This isn’t a bigot view I’m suggesting here. A bigot view would be to suggest the laddie was local - and imply something from that.
Non-confirmation of an actual heart attack without even the name being released - has been skipped over by the Glaswegians of course, who have really leaned over backwards with goodwill over this entire tragedy, which regardless of anything else confirmed or unconfirmed - is very much what this incident is.
The identity of the driver of the bin lorry that killed six people when it crashed in Glasgow city center will be protected indefinitely, the local authority has said.
Full article here in The Scotsman
moomooland:
The identity of the driver of the bin lorry that killed six people when it crashed in Glasgow city center will be protected indefinitely, the local authority has said.Full article here in The Scotsman
Now that is interesting, what’s to hide?
Move along now nothing to see here, or is there something they don’t want the general public, or more specifically, the electorate, to know about?
moomooland:
The identity of the driver of the bin lorry that killed six people when it crashed in Glasgow city center will be protected indefinitely, the local authority has said.Full article here in The Scotsman
Very, very murky water in this business. I have never heard of this happening before. The authorities seem to be totally reluctant to release any information at all about the possible causes of the incident.