Bin lorry crash in Glasgow

m1cks:

The-Snowman:

m1cks:

The-Snowman:
make up, jokes about is a worrying vision of what the future may be like.

Im sure you’ll find this isn’t the future but something thats rooted very firmly in the past. It’s gallows humour.

Gallows humour in the past was not such a big problem. It was a few sick comments that hardly anyone outside the immediate circle ever heard. And anyone it affected never heard it because people didnt repeat it infront of them. But with the internet,now everyone reads what someone said within seconds. And it will only get worse in future. And even using the word humour with an incident like this is in bad taste. Years from now,maybe. And I say MAYBE. But the first ones appeared online within MINUTES. The bodies were still warm FFS. Anyone who finds humour in that needs professional help

Or maybe people just need to stop being so sensitive all the time. I can understand the immediate family getting distressed because of the joke but not people who didn’t know them.
It’s like its become a national pastime in this country to become offended on behalf of other people. How many examples of TV shows have been reported to ofcom where people complaining hadn’t even watched the show.
It’s all become a bit pathetic.

and another +1
in Glasgow,usually the 1st you hear of any tragedy is when a barrage of joke txts come in about it,after that,you see it on the news. its obviously a tragedy for those involved,but not for the rest of the sanctimonious masses waffling on about it…no matter what happens in uk now,then theres always he bleeding heart brigade that thinks its great to let the world know how much it affects them,when in reality it dosent .all the masses snottering buying flowers for Diana and at the same time they wouldn’t give a paraffin lamp 50p. the councils have already kicked in £40k for a fund for them…to me that’s just a pr whitewash exercise for the ensuing bombardment of claims coming up towards them. tragic accident,no more no less.if you’ve a alternative sense of humour then why should you not be allowed to post it…i know it doesn’t work like that on here,but you should still be able to voice your views,or whatever you think it amusing in an open forum . the dudes that posted wont have any direct personal grudge against anyone involved,just the black humour that surrounds any accident…or once again am I the only one that laughs at joke txts about worldwide tragedies etc.the 1st I heard about the flipflop doctors blowing up Glasgow airport,the beeflinks getting caught out at morcame bay,tsunamis,wtc ,and lets not forget the plod chopper in Glasgow last year etc was by joke txts…there no worse than going to see chubbs and laughing along with everyone else.mostly racist gallows humour jokes,but he sells out wherever he goes.its ridiculous to think of involving the police for a bad taste joke,and plod should just be telling the complainant to sod off and get a life.(assuming you think its in bad taste in the first place)bad taste jokes are by definition ,in bad taste,lots of people still find them funny…the interesting thing to me is 3 days now,and they cant comment if the unnamed driver had a heart attack or something that might not look too great in print? they’ve named the 6 victims,why cant they name the driver?no doubt it most likely is that he took a wabbler but im not the only one thinking,binnys, shops,takeways,resturants,pubs,its not a full size scaffy truck,so he was on commercial refuse in the city centre…,xmas ,wheres my tips,have a cpl bevvies some cans or a wee half bottle for lifting my bins on the fly again…time will tell,but anythings possible. ive previously driven bin lorries in Belfast for a while,and like binnies everywhere,there not shy in taking what they can mooch regarding freebies and tips.i wonder where public opinion will go if it turns out that him and the 2 loaders were blocked? though id reckon it would be a hushup from the powers that be.

Did I say it should be a hanging offence? Im not even arguing whether he should or should not be charged. I fully appreciate free speech etc. I say plenty of things that others dont like. My views on free speech and freedom of your own thought even extend to believing someone should be racist,homophobic or sexist if they want to be,providing they don’t initiate violence etc. It is not what was said that annoys me,its the fact it was said when the bodies were still warm and lying on the ground. That’s not “gallows humour”,that’s a case for professional help. Its got nothing to do with being too sensitive,its to do with showing some respect to other people. They could at least have waited a while

he waited the same time the reporters/media waited before shoving mikes into the faces of anyone and everyone,plus showing pics of your newly dead when they were still warm might be considered to be similar bad taste and possibly even more distressing to the family involved,hence why would anyone wait?.thats along the lines of me saying I saw a poster 20 years ago saying …free nelson mandela…so I sent away for one but nothing arrived…amusing to some at the time,but hardly relevant now.free press,or at least it should be.i think whoever thinks up these things are generally topical and funny(sick or not).no always,but that’s how opinions differ…i like chubbs…lots do and lots don’t…

dieseldog999:
he waited the same time the reporters/media waited before shoving mikes into the faces of anyone and everyone,plus showing pics of your newly dead when they were still warm might be considered to be similar bad taste and possibly even more distressing to the family involved,hence why would anyone wait?.thats along the lines of me saying I saw a poster 20 years ago saying …free nelson mandela…so I sent away for one but nothing arrived…amusing to some at the time,but hardly relevant now.free press,or at least it should be.i think whoever thinks up these things are generally topical and funny(sick or not).no always,but that’s how opinions differ…i like chubbs…lots do and lots don’t…

I remember saying at the time that the reporters were out of order. Esp with the guy who said the truck was doing 75-100mph. He was clearly distressed and was trying to walk away and the idiot with the mike just would not leave him alone. And I was shocked in the daily record the next day when they printed pictures of the street with bodies lying everywhere,dead or injured. They have a cheek to be on their high horse. Im not a big fan of the media at all. They twist anything anyway they want to in order to sell newspapers. And a lot of the posters to this thread are right,they have made this out to be a LOT worse than it actually was,or had to be. But it still does not change the fact that some people found it funny to mock dead people.

each to their own…myself and others find humour in things that others don’t…the thing is…whos to say whos right.obviously not me otherwise I wouldn’t keep getting my posts removed :slight_smile:

The-Snowman:
That’s not “gallows humour”,that’s a case for professional help.

Is it ■■■■■■■■. :unamused:

Contraflow:

The-Snowman:
That’s not “gallows humour”,that’s a case for professional help.

Is it ■■■■■■■■. :unamused:

Thinking its funny to laugh at dead people five minutes after it happened? Keep telling yourself that.

The-Snowman:

Contraflow:

The-Snowman:
That’s not “gallows humour”,that’s a case for professional help.

Is it ■■■■■■■■. :unamused:

Thinking its funny to laugh at dead people five minutes after it happened? Keep telling yourself that.

Snowman, nobody laughed because it wasn’t funny.

Nobody would have even known had the police not arrested him and the media got on their righteous band wagon - kinda like you are.

Chill the ■■■■ out, it was a tweet between him and his followers.

Read my post above PROPERLY and you’ll see what I said the 1st time, which your response went off on a tangent from :unamused:

dieseldog999:
each to their own…myself and others find humour in things that others don’t…the thing is…whos to say whos right.obviously not me otherwise I wouldn’t keep getting my posts removed :slight_smile:

Lol. Im not saying anyone’s right or wrong about their opinion on it. Im just saying that I personally find it in bad taste to joke so soon after. You wouldn’t drive past an accident and crack jokes(Well,I wouldn’t anyway) and I see this as the same thing. Time and a place and all that. But the side ill never fall on is the one that says this sort of thing should be banned. Start that and your going down a dangerous road. you cant ban things just because some people dont like it. I like the routines of Jimmy carr and Frankie Boyle but some people would have them hung drawn and quartered for some of the things they say

waynedl:

The-Snowman:

Contraflow:

The-Snowman:
That’s not “gallows humour”,that’s a case for professional help.

Is it ■■■■■■■■. :unamused:

Thinking its funny to laugh at dead people five minutes after it happened? Keep telling yourself that.

Snowman, nobody laughed because it wasn’t funny.

Nobody would have even known had the police not arrested him and the media got on their righteous band wagon - kinda like you are.

Chill the [zb] out…

+1

5 pages…2 pages talking about a major incident…3 pages talking pish about some fandan in Sunderland!

mmm :confused:

Welcome to TruckNet. :laughing:

waynedl:

The-Snowman:

Contraflow:

The-Snowman:
That’s not “gallows humour”,that’s a case for professional help.

Is it ■■■■■■■■. :unamused:

Thinking its funny to laugh at dead people five minutes after it happened? Keep telling yourself that.

Snowman, nobody laughed because it wasn’t funny.

Nobody would have even known had the police not arrested him and the media got on their righteous band wagon - kinda like you are.

Chill the [zb] out, it was a tweet between him and his followers.

Read my post above PROPERLY and you’ll see what I said the 1st time, which your response went off on a tangent from :unamused:

I am chilled. And im not on a rightous band wagon.The ones im talking about laughing about it were the ones who sent it,not the ones that read it. And I did agree with you re the media,as I have with,I think,deiseldog. What I didn’t agree with was you pulling out the burglary statistic. And the unfortunate thing about social media is it was not just between him and his followers. It gets spread far and wide. Had this happened 2 months from now id be agreeing with you 100% about it being OTT. But they were sending this stuff while bodies were still being attended too and still lying in the street. Its called showing a bit of respect. Nothing to do with censorship.
Maybe I am being too “uppity” about it all. Maybe I can’t take a step back and look at the big picture because this happened so close to where I live. It is very forefront in my mind that had my wife and I not done our shopping one Sunday in early December then we might have been there. And I wouldnt appreciate some of the stuff being banded about.
Im not looking to fall out with anyone and I have no interest in getting involved in an argument. Everyone has opinions and I respect other peoples. You cant scream free speech and then moan when people dont agree with you.

merc0447:
5 pages…2 pages talking about a major incident…3 pages talking pish about some fandan in Sunderland!

mmm :confused:

I agree. Not worth it at all. I’m bailing out now. Some of us have cheapened the thread enough (and I include myself in that). We will never agree on how far is too far but one thing we DO all agree on in that it is a very dangerous precident to start arresting people for what others find offensive

The-Snowman:
Maybe I am being too “uppity” about it all.

Maybe.

These are dangerous times.

I’m not referring to the horrible tragedy in Glasgow which has been awful for so many, i’m thinking of the impending total loss of free speech, and thought too when they can monitor those, that is fast approaching aided and abetted by the virtual pitchfork wielding mob of village idiots doing the state’s work for it.

The new game for those who wish to control is brainwashing, propaganda and disinformation, and whilst the internet has been enlightening and freeing for many, it frightens those in power in that they haven’t quite got total control over whats being published or said, ordinary people as the apparatchiks like to call us now have access to information they, the more equal than others, haven’t edited to suit the story and they don’t like it.
The internet genie is out of the bottle and they, Cameron and his crew and i include all the current political class, are desperate to stuff it back in the bottle.

There will always be the idiot who says the wrong thing at the wrong time, usually a teenage or immature young lad, so what?, it’s only words and one doesn’t have to read them if it offends, when the lads balls drop he’ll realise he was a crass fool and replay the shame of the silly comment in his mind for eternity, it’s called growing up and we’ve all done and said things we wish we hadn’t when younger, it doesn’t need a van load of riot police doing the governments speech/thought control for an idiotic comment.

We really are entering dangerous times where our hard won freedoms are in peril like never before, surveillance of and citizen fear rivalling or surpassing the days of the Stasi in East Germany, with brainwashed cyber citizens eager to report (pat on the head?) the wrong, or rather the slightest non right on, thought being expressed verbally wrongly whatever…indeed the baying crowd (who at one time watched raucous public executions such as burning at the stake with their children) seem eager for the state to have total power to spy on every word spoken or transmitted and to act immediately when one utters something not approved.

A politicians, or dictators?, dream come true.

As always be careful what you wish for, a populace afraid to utter anything other than the approved meaningless words on the hymnsheet of the day is an easily controlled flock of sheep.

merc0447:
5 pages…2 pages talking about a major incident…3 pages talking pish about some fandan in Sunderland!

mmm :confused:

Just one fandan in sunderland

Juddian:
These are dangerous times.

I’m not referring to the horrible tragedy in Glasgow which has been awful for so many, i’m thinking of the impending total loss of free speech, and thought too when they can monitor those, that is fast approaching aided and abetted by the virtual pitchfork wielding mob of village idiots doing the state’s work for it.

The new game for those who wish to control is brainwashing, propaganda and disinformation, and whilst the internet has been enlightening and freeing for many, it frightens those in power in that they haven’t quite got total control over whats being published or said, ordinary people as the apparatchiks like to call us now have access to information they, the more equal than others, haven’t edited to suit the story and they don’t like it.
The internet genie is out of the bottle and they, Cameron and his crew and i include all the current political class, are desperate to stuff it back in the bottle.

There will always be the idiot who says the wrong thing at the wrong time, usually a teenage or immature young lad, so what?, it’s only words and one doesn’t have to read them if it offends, when the lads balls drop he’ll realise he was a crass fool and replay the shame of the silly comment in his mind for eternity, it’s called growing up and we’ve all done and said things we wish we hadn’t when younger, it doesn’t need a van load of riot police doing the governments speech/thought control for an idiotic comment.

We really are entering dangerous times where our hard won freedoms are in peril like never before, surveillance of and citizen fear rivalling or surpassing the days of the Stasi in East Germany, with brainwashed cyber citizens eager to report (pat on the head?) the wrong, or rather the slightest non right on, thought being expressed verbally wrongly whatever…indeed the baying crowd (who at one time watched raucous public executions such as burning at the stake with their children) seem eager for the state to have total power to spy on every word spoken or transmitted and to act immediately when one utters something not approved.

A politicians, or dictators?, dream come true.

As always be careful what you wish for, a populace afraid to utter anything other than the approved meaningless words on the hymnsheet of the day is an easily controlled flock of sheep.

^

no one as pickt up on the ■■■■ there was 2 bin men who jumpt out of the truck why dident one of them pull the hand brake on they must of sean him do it 100 s of times

wirksworth rod:
no one as pickt up on the [zb] there was 2 bin men who jumpt out of the truck why dident one of them pull the hand brake on they must of sean him do it 100 s of times

It was picked up on actually and explained away