Stanfield:
This may have been put on already somewhere on this thread but hey what the hell nothing wrong in showing it again
Sed Atki A430EEC
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Great shot that John,one of the last two Gardner engined motors I bought in 1984,and before the “wise guys” ask about the use of a roped over fly sheet,it was a redundant sheet and one of a number we used on the loads of drums we hauled at that time The motor was one of a pair and they had the 265 LXC engine,Fuller 95909 and Rockwell axle.They were good reliable motors from memory but we were firmly into Scanias by that time so they were more-or-less bought,for the right price,for old times sake Cheers Dennis.
Evening Dennis, next to your Seddon looks like a Ford Cargo. I ran quite a few of these nice compact Ford Motor Company everso, everso
“cheap” little units, all ■■■■■■■ 290s, either as tractors, or as drawbars, day and sleeper cab,they were absolutely fantastic, and real earners!!
Premium quality they were not, but as a reliable, ultra lightweight, with a (relative), big power to weight ratio, and so cheap to buy, I could not fault them. Gosh they earned some money, and what a lovely comfortable driving position, I really wish that I had kept one!!
bma.finland:
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finaly got it in color ,what about cheers benkku
Great drawing of a great motor bma. thanks ,my first Atkinson Borderer,so here is an photo of the same motor,at work circa 1973 when it was about 2 years old.It was stood at our local Mill and it’s load of paper was for Kent in South east England.
you must of had some good lads in the workshop as you ran a very mixed fleet in the early days , fabulous fleet though I must say, speak soon
Mike…
Bewick:
bma.finland:
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finaly got it in color ,what about cheers benkku
Great drawing of a great motor bma. thanks ,my first Atkinson Borderer,so here is an photo of the same motor,at work circa 1973 when it was about 2 years old.It was stood at our local Mill and it’s load of paper was for Kent in South east England.
Thank you Dennis, Yes I did spot a few I would love to have drove, and yes I have drove Guy but with a gardner 180 and one with a poxy aec engine in , but only around the Brs Yard as I was only 16 .
you must of had some good lads in the workshop as you ran a very mixed fleet in the early days , fabulous fleet though I must say, speak soon
Mike…
Bewick:
bma.finland:
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finaly got it in color ,what about cheers benkku
Great drawing of a great motor bma. thanks ,my first Atkinson Borderer,so here is an photo of the same motor,at work circa 1973 when it was about 2 years old.It was stood at our local Mill and it’s load of paper was for Kent in South east England.
Hiya Mike,thanks for the kind compliments,I should have added that at the time this shot was taken this Atky MEC98K was the first motor we based in Northfleet,driven by Len Valsler,IIRC he set off south that afternoon and would stop for the night at the Kernel Cafe in Walsall? or West Brom?,memory is a bit hazy Cheers mate,Dennis.
Just found this shot I took at the same time of MEC98K,we must have fitted some new tyres to this 34ft York tandem recently,thats my brother Richard “torqing” the wheel nuts prior the motor setting off,I can’t recall on instance over all the years we operated having had wheel nuts coming loose on either units or trailers,a few dicky trailer wheel bearings,but no wheel nuts Cheers Dennis.
Wonder how many lumps of flesh from knuckles, knees ankles etc. are lying around the countryside due to loosening/tightening wheel nuts with a brace and bit of pipe ■■?
A weekend line up in the Milnthorpe depot,the Scanias did us a great job at Bewick Transport during those years,and IMO we couldn’t have bettered them with any other make of motor at that time. Cheers Bewick.
Did you have any problems with the —/Atki 400 series front axle wheel studs ? one 400 series and the
only R/R engine motor was horrendous for broken studs as it was on trunk work it could be fitted/checked
over every day and if fitted with new studs to replace the broken ones the most was 4 complete
studs snapped and 1 just on by a 1/4 of the stud.
This was not just a one off it was most weeks and mostly the n/s front but the o/s front would not let the side down
and 1 or 2 went a.w.o.l to, and —/Atki response at the time your over torquing the nut/stud strange how the
older Atkinsons and the rear group axle gave no problems and the Mercs 1418 and the NG`S all gave no problems
wheel stud/nut wise.
Aye our Atki tractor unit used to snap the nearside wheel studs quite often, One of the testers at the testing station at North Gosforth a Mr Brian Gill was very helpful & sent them away to be looked at, But alas the report came back to say that they had been over tightened, Mind you we had a Torque Wrench & we allways set it at the correct Newton Meters, We also had a Leyland Clydesdale & a Terrier which had the same problem, So we made a point of allways having some spare ones in the garage, Regards Larry.
8LXBV8BRIAN:
Did you have any problems with the —/Atki 400 series front axle wheel studs ? one 400 series and the
only R/R engine motor was horrendous for broken studs as it was on trunk work it could be fitted/checked
over every day and if fitted with new studs to replace the broken ones the most was 4 complete
studs snapped and 1 just on by a 1/4 of the stud.
This was not just a one off it was most weeks and mostly the n/s front but the o/s front would not let the side down
and 1 or 2 went a.w.o.l to, and —/Atki response at the time your over torquing the nut/stud strange how the
older Atkinsons and the rear group axle gave no problems and the Mercs 1418 and the NG`S all gave no problems
wheel stud/nut wise.
No Bri I can’t recall any wheel stud probs,the main problem we had on the 8LXB Sed/Atks was the that the poxy Group axle was a disaster,we were lucky to get them to 70,000 miles before the hub reductions needed rebuilding and on double shift we soon clocked up70k in no time.The early Sed/Atks also suffered from water ingress through the air filter intake(until we modified them ourselves),can you believe that those ■■■■■■■ at Sed/Atk decided that the air intake was better placed under the wing when both the Atky Borderers and the Seddon 32/4’s both had air filter intakes up the back of the cabs and were perfect.I’m getting a bit exited just thinking about the failings of those early Sed/Atks,what a shower they became at Sed/Atks,not worth a row of sheep ■■■■. Cheers Dennis.
Bewick:
No Bri I can’t recall any wheel stud probs,the main problem we had on the 8LXB Sed/Atks was the that the poxy Group axle was a disaster,we were lucky to get them to 70,000 miles before the hub reductions needed rebuilding and on double shift we soon clocked up70k in no time.The early Sed/Atks also suffered from water ingress through the air filter intake(until we modified them ourselves),can you believe that those [zb] at Sed/Atk decided that the air intake was better placed under the wing when both the Atky Borderers and the Seddon 32/4’s both had air filter intakes up the back of the cabs and were perfect.I’m getting a bit exited just thinking about the failings of those early Sed/Atks,what a shower they became at Sed/Atks,not worth a row of sheep [zb]. Cheers Dennis.
Hey Anorak, A bite off topic but!! The first I think was FIAT to put the aircleaner behind de cab,and all offered a changed intake if you needed the space of the intake pipe for the body.
The first F88 had the aircleaner in front of the right frontwheel which was a real disaster,you could change every month a filter. The design was so bad,Scanny’s was made lots better. They mounted the airfilter only there because it was the easyest place to fix it,but Always has been the worst for dirt.The latter F88 with the funnel ,could easiely let away because it stand on the side of the engine.
But I am sure the the oil aircleaner was much more cheaper and Scania used it a lot of time with even turbo engines.
The motor was one of a pair and they had the 265 LXC engine,Fuller 95909 and Rockwell axle.They were good reliable motors from memory but we were firmly into Scanias by that time so they were more-or-less bought,for the right price,for old times sake 
Cheers Dennis.
,Cheers Dennis.
Cheers mate,Dennis.
your over torquing the nut/stud strange how the
gave no problems and the Mercs 1418 and the NG`S