I first heard of this a while ago on Jeremy Vine when a Trucker at Calais said he had been gassed and robbed while he was asleep. He had explained they use Easy Start which contains ether. They put the thin tube through the cab door and spray it in your cab while you are asleep in the bunk, you then pass out for 12 hours or so waking up to find your cab has been robbed.
My advice is to use a ratchet strap between the doors to keep them out
This knock out gas in portable format does not exist, an anestholgist has stated this on Trucknet, if it did exist, how do you calculate the correct dosage for different body weights ?
NOT one police report states of a death from gassing.
Years ago , drivers took the bosses running money for tolls , fuel, fines and breakdowns, the drivers spent it in the brothels, so made out they were gassed and the cash stolen.
Which I believe completely. This issue has come up before on here, if the doctors think it’s impossible to gas someone in a relatively small truck cab, how much agent would need to be used to gas several people in a house with large rooms and open spaces?? Many thousands of litres I bet.
It’s simply impossible IMHO.
Why has no one ever been killed in these robbery gas attacks, even though as the doctors say, it leaves people at risk of suffocating■■?
Assuming the engagement ring stolen was on her finger, then I could only imagine some kind of anasthaetic was used, otherwise surely she would have woken.
alcohol could have the same effect…well it does for me!!!
It CAN happen, and HAS happened, I know that for a painful fact. The guvnor repaid me in cash for my financial loss, and he didn’t part with money easily.
Seriously though - Even Laughing Gas (Nitrous Oxide) is fatal if constantly breathed in without break over a a period that varies according to body mass factors, etc.
In small doses, it causes a drunken type of inebriation (tipsy, rather than roaring with laughter)
In medium doses, it causes drowsiness, & unconsciousness
In high doses it causes coma and brain damage
In ‘excess’ it causes death in less than an hour.
It’s a lot safer for the assailant to avoid a murder rap - if they admininster “■■■■■■■■■” type substances to the cup of tea you just had in that roadside cafe…
I wonder if there is a link between those that claim to have been “gassed”, and being parked up near a place of refreshment?
There are a lot of tales of gassing people truck drivers, holiday makers, etc. so I won’t say it can’t happen, just like many others who are sceptical have a few questions.
If you get anesthetics wrong you’ll either kill somebody or they won’t go fully under, anesthetists train for years to do their job, and they have to take many factors in to consideration when they decide the dose they use, they then continue to monitor the life signs for the rest of the operation.
The one recorded event where anesthetic gas was used to knock out people in a building, (the Moscow theatre siege as mentioned by Chester)130 of the 850 hostages died, mostly because they were overcome by the gas, but all these criminals can run round Europe gassing people and there are no recorded fatalities.
With trucks the stories were they pumped the gas through the night heater intake, but the night heater is a sealed unit, the intake is only supplying air to the combustion side which is then passed out of the night heater exhaust, it never enters the cab otherwise you’d risk carbon monoxide poisoning.
I believe air con units in building are the same, the unit on the outside wall is a compressor/cooler that cools the refrigerant that then is passed through pipes to the unit inside where it cools the air that is already in the building by passing over the coils, then the refrigerant goes back to the compressor cooler, it’s a closed circuit.
woow loads of you drivers are also medical/scientific/anaesthetists experts, is that thru dcpc training or do you all have degrees in said subject.
Grow up, to many myth’s/mates girlfriends brothers ex’s mother’s partner …had same happen.
best get a REAL specialist (done thru admin) to kill this subject once and for all.
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woow loads of you drivers are also medical/scientific/anaesthetists experts, is that thru dcpc training or do you all have degrees in said subject.
Grow up, to many myth’s/mates girlfriends brothers ex’s mother’s partner …had same happen.
best get a REAL specialist (done thru admin) to kill this subject once and for all.
Fair point…
Dear Mr Kirby,
Thank you for your enquiry. I would like to inform you that you are not the first enquirer with this question. Professor Hatch, our Clinical Advisor, has given the following previous comments:
"I can give you a categorical assurance that it would not be possible to render someone unconscious with ether without their knowledge, even if they were sleeping at the time. Ether is an extremely pungent agent and a relatively weak anaesthetic by modern standards and has a very irritant affect of the air passages, causing coughing and sometimes vomiting. It takes some time to reach unconsciousness, even if given by direct application to the face on a rag, and the concentration needed by some sort of spray into a room would be enormous. The smell hangs around for days and would be obvious to anyone the next day.
There are much more powerful agents around now, some of which are almost odourless. However, these would be unlikely to be able to achieve the effect you describe, and the cost would be huge enough to deter any thief unless he was after the crown jewels. The only practicable agent is probably the one used by the Russians in the Moscow siege - I advised the BBC on their programme about this. The general feeling is that they used an agent which is not available outside the KGB!
Finally, unsupervised anaesthesia, which is what we are really talking about is very dangerous. In the Moscow siege about 20% of victims died from asphyxia, because their airways were unprotected. If the reports you talk about are true I would have expected a significant number of deaths or cases of serious brain damage to have been reported."
