Dave the Renegade:
A bit off the lorry engine,but the best sound I can remember was about five years ago at an air display at Llanidloes in Mid Wales.i parked on the top of a hill and watched a Lancaster Bomber climbing up out of the valley,the sound from the Rolls Royce Merlin engines was awesome.
Cheers Dave.
It sounded better than that for real Carryfast,the terrain around Llanidloes is very similar to the youtube films,complete with the Clywedog Dam.
Cheers Dave.
Dave the Renegade:
A bit off the lorry engine,but the best sound I can remember was about five years ago at an air display at Llanidloes in Mid Wales.i parked on the top of a hill and watched a Lancaster Bomber climbing up out of the valley,the sound from the Rolls Royce Merlin engines was awesome.
Cheers Dave.
It sounded better than that for real Carryfast,the terrain around Llanidloes is very similar to the youtube films,complete with the Clywedog Dam.
Cheers Dave.
hiya,
You mentioned the Clywedog dam there Dave is that the one that the water gets pumped into at low peak and generates hydro electricity during the day if so my old Fellah drove a Ruston Bucyrus at that site when it was being built many moons ago.
thanks harry long retired.
Dave the Renegade:
A bit off the lorry engine,but the best sound I can remember was about five years ago at an air display at Llanidloes in Mid Wales.i parked on the top of a hill and watched a Lancaster Bomber climbing up out of the valley,the sound from the Rolls Royce Merlin engines was awesome.
Cheers Dave.
It sounded better than that for real Carryfast,the terrain around Llanidloes is very similar to the youtube films,complete with the Clywedog Dam.
Cheers Dave.
A good amp and a set of celestion speakers and the headphones are close enough while it’s parked up waiting for next year’s shows.
Dave the Renegade:
A bit off the lorry engine,but the best sound I can remember was about five years ago at an air display at Llanidloes in Mid Wales.i parked on the top of a hill and watched a Lancaster Bomber climbing up out of the valley,the sound from the Rolls Royce Merlin engines was awesome.
Cheers Dave.
It sounded better than that for real Carryfast,the terrain around Llanidloes is very similar to the youtube films,complete with the Clywedog Dam.
Cheers Dave.
hiya,
You mentioned the Clywedog dam there Dave is that the one that the water gets pumped into at low peak and generates hydro electricity during the day if so my old Fellah drove a Ruston Bucyrus at that site when it was being built many moons ago.
thanks harry long retired.
hiya,
Dragged this to the fore again just in case Dave the Renegade can give me an answer to my question.
thanks harry long retired.
Dave the Renegade:
A bit off the lorry engine,but the best sound I can remember was about five years ago at an air display at Llanidloes in Mid Wales.i parked on the top of a hill and watched a Lancaster Bomber climbing up out of the valley,the sound from the Rolls Royce Merlin engines was awesome.
Cheers Dave.
It sounded better than that for real Carryfast,the terrain around Llanidloes is very similar to the youtube films,complete with the Clywedog Dam.
Cheers Dave.
hiya,
You mentioned the Clywedog dam there Dave is that the one that the water gets pumped into at low peak and generates hydro electricity during the day if so my old Fellah drove a Ruston Bucyrus at that site when it was being built many moons ago.
thanks harry long retired.
Hi Harry,
Sorry missed your post,hence the delay in answering.
Got quite a few big Dams in Mid Wales,the Clywedog was built in the 60’s,so that would possibly be the one where your Dad worked on.There is another Dam near Ponterwyd called Nantymoch which was built in the arly 60’s which was very much a Hydro electric sheme,tht one is nearer to Aberystwyth.
The reservoir forms part of the Cwm Rheidol hydroelectric power scheme and the headwaters of the reservoir include the source of the River Rheidol. The Nant-y-moch component of the hydroelectric scheme has an installed capacity of 13 MW generated as the water from Nant-y-moch enters Dinas Reservoir.
Cheers Dave.
That’s a Gardner 6LW mate - 112hp, not a 180.
Two piece cylinder block, direct coupled injection pump make it a 6LW, a 180 is a 6LXB.
Still sounds nice all the same - takes me back to summer fun fairs of the 70’s!.
They did make a 180 6LX mate before the LXB as the LX used to have a habit of dropping valve heads on overun so they modified them and also put another 3/8 BSF stud in the corner of both heads cos they were prone to blowing head gaskets and labelled it the 6LXB plus a few other tweeks to the injection / valve timing and fuel system.
Another thing old man “Gardner” was reputed to have once said that he would never put a “Blower” on a Gardner, they would always be naturally aspirated, not turbo charged, that is why when the BHP was set at 6BHP per ton in the 70`s the 6LXB couldn,t reach the required BHP for 32 tons, so they brought out the 8LXB to reach the BHP for 32 tons by putting an extra 2 pots on the back!
The 6LXCT with the blower was designed / produced after “Hawker Siddeley Aviation” bought Gardners out in the late 70s early 80s as far as I remember, and not produced by Gardners the original company.
That’s a Gardner 6LW mate - 112hp, not a 180.
Two piece cylinder block, direct coupled injection pump make it a 6LW, a 180 is a 6LXB.
Still sounds nice all the same - takes me back to summer fun fairs of the 70’s!.
They did make a 180 6LX mate before the LXB as the LX used to have a habit of dropping valve heads on overun so they modified them and also put another 3/8 BSF stud in the corner of both heads cos they were prone to blowing head gaskets and labelled it the 6LXB plus a few other tweeks to the injection / valve timing and fuel system.
Another thing old man “Gardner” was reputed to have once said that he would never put a “Blower” on a Gardner, they would always be naturally aspirated, not turbo charged, that is why when the BHP was set at 6BHP per ton in the 70`s the 6LXB couldn,t reach the required BHP for 32 tons, so they brought out the 8LXB to reach the BHP for 32 tons by putting an extra 2 pots on the back!
The 6LXCT with the blower was designed / produced after “Hawker Siddeley Aviation” bought Gardners out in the late 70s early 80s as far as I remember, and not produced by Gardners the original company.
Cheers for that ERF & NEJ, I bow to each of your greater knowledge, i was just going on what our mechanics laccy told me…
NEJ:
They did make a 180 6LX mate before the LXB as the LX used to have a habit of dropping valve heads on overun so they modified them and also put another 3/8 BSF stud in the corner of both heads cos they were prone to blowing head gaskets and labelled it the 6LXB plus a few other tweeks to the injection / valve timing and fuel system.
Another thing old man “Gardner” was reputed to have once said that he would never put a “Blower” on a Gardner, they would always be naturally aspirated, not turbo charged, that is why when the BHP was set at 6BHP per ton in the 70`s the 6LXB couldn,t reach the required BHP for 32 tons, so they brought out the 8LXB to reach the BHP for 32 tons by putting an extra 2 pots on the back!
The 6LXCT with the blower was designed / produced after “Hawker Siddeley Aviation” bought Gardners out in the late 70s early 80s as far as I remember, and not produced by Gardners the original company.
You are almost right. The LX modified in 1967 with reshaped valve heads (modified for better gas flow though as I recall), different fuel pump cams, different injector nozzles and extra 3/8 stud at the back was always known by the factory as the LX(B), and always rated at 180hp for haulage applications, the old LX being rated at 150hp. After 1967 you could still spec a 6LX with the extra extra head stud, but none of the other mods still rated at 150hp, and still known as a 6LX.
Paul Gardner designed the turbo charger into the the 6LXC engine (to become the 6LXCT) after his uncle, Hugh Gardner retired but it was never a great success. Hugh would never allow turbo charging - he was a great designer of Diesel engines by anyones standard and one wonders what he could of come up with if he had held a different view.
Hiya …At Astle park rally this year was a 8 LW (150bhp) that sounded as sweet as a nut.that was built IICR 12 years
before the 8LXB (240).Just think you had a 8LW in a Foden with a 12 speed box in 1960 its a pitty they had low ratio diffs.
and a crap cab.
John
3300John:
Hiya …At Astle park rally this year was a 8 LW (150bhp) that sounded as sweet as a nut.that was built IICR 12 years
before the 8LXB (240).Just think you had a 8LW in a Foden with a 12 speed box in 1960 its a pitty they had low ratio diffs.
and a crap cab.
John
Yes, a mate of mine is restoring an 8LW. They are quite a rare engine, and I only know of Foden that fitted them in lorries at the time.
Quite a few found their way into railway locos and boats though.
3300John:
Hiya …At Astle park rally this year was a 8 LW (150bhp) that sounded as sweet as a nut.that was built IICR 12 years
before the 8LXB (240).Just think you had a 8LW in a Foden with a 12 speed box in 1960 its a pitty they had low ratio diffs.
and a crap cab.
John
Yes, a mate of mine is restoring an 8LW. They are quite a rare engine, and I only know of Foden that fitted them in lorries at the time.
Quite a few found their way into railway locos and boats though.
Hiya the owner of the 8LW told me they only produced IICR 230 8cyl 150,s and yes fodens for export i think.
John
Just another one on Gardners, does anyone remember Gardners fitting a 4LW engine in to a Jaguar car, it is right as I have seen it with my own eyes in the early 90`s at Astley Colliery museum open day.
The car was one of the big Jags not the small 3.4 types as it was about in the early 50`s when it was done in something like the Mk 9 shape with, I think the split screen as the one piece screen came out later, and Grey in colour.
Believe me it was “shoehorned” in and I wouldn,t have liked to have been the poor fitter who had to work on it!
The car was apparently owned by old man Gardner himself!
3300John:
Hiya …At Astle park rally this year was a 8 LW (150bhp) that sounded as sweet as a nut.that was built IICR 12 years
before the 8LXB (240).Just think you had a 8LW in a Foden with a 12 speed box in 1960 its a pitty they had low ratio diffs.
and a crap cab.
John
Yes, a mate of mine is restoring an 8LW. They are quite a rare engine, and I only know of Foden that fitted them in lorries at the time.
Quite a few found their way into railway locos and boats though.
Hiya the owner of the 8LW told me they only produced IICR 230 8cyl 150,s and yes fodens for export i think.
John
hiya,
Would dare bet that Dr John Killingbeck could have coaxed that sort of performance out of a 5 LW i drove one of his Atki’s with a 180 Gardner in it and there was nowt could touch it after the man himself had “tickled” it a bit.
thanks harry long retired.
NEJ:
Just another one on Gardners, does anyone remember Gardners fitting a 4LW engine in to a Jaguar car, it is right as I have seen it with my own eyes in the early 90`s at Astley Colliery museum open day.
The car was one of the big Jags not the small 3.4 types as it was about in the early 50`s when it was done in something like the Mk 9 shape with, I think the split screen as the one piece screen came out later, and Grey in colour.
Believe me it was “shoehorned” in and I wouldn,t have liked to have been the poor fitter who had to work on it!
The car was apparently owned by old man Gardner himself!
He’s the only one who would have been daft enough to want it .At least Lyons had more sense than to build another one for himself.Anyway I’d bet it did’nt sound as good as my 6 Litre V12 XJ running with straight through exhausts.
3300John:
Hiya …At Astle park rally this year was a 8 LW (150bhp) that sounded as sweet as a nut.that was built IICR 12 years
before the 8LXB (240).Just think you had a 8LW in a Foden with a 12 speed box in 1960 its a pitty they had low ratio diffs.
and a crap cab.
John
Yes, a mate of mine is restoring an 8LW. They are quite a rare engine, and I only know of Foden that fitted them in lorries at the time.
Quite a few found their way into railway locos and boats though.
Hiya the owner of the 8LW told me they only produced IICR 230 8cyl 150,s and yes fodens for export i think.
John
hiya,
Would dare bet that Dr John Killingbeck could have coaxed that sort of performance out of a 5 LW i drove one of his Atki’s with a 180 Gardner in it and there was nowt could touch it after the man himself had “tickled” it a bit.
thanks harry long retired.
The Scammell will probably have a Leyland engine in “H” so I think before the “off” we should put an 8LW under the bonnet!!I reckon I could persude some of the mechanics on the thread to perform the operation and while they are on with it i’ll get them to put an 8track tape player in the cab.I’ll put a few tapes in for you—lets see Daniel O’Donell,Max Bygraves,Anne Shelton,■■■ Pistols & the Pasedena Roof Orchestra!!! Cheers Dennis.PS and a Dolly Parton video to watch in the digs!
Trev_H:
Hi, yes you are right it was a mk9 Jag, I have also seen one fitted in a Bentley R type.
This is the machine, it is a 4LK actually and I photographed it at the Anson Museum, Poynton, last year. There was also one installed in an XK140, where that now resides I know not! A “one off” 6LK was also made and installed in a company car.
Hiya …there are many cars with Gardner engines …all the company cars had their own engine fitted.
bolshaws from nr macc have a logonda with a ? LW theres one with a 6LW but if its bolshaws i
dont know.bolshaws car is not a nail it goes like stink and worth a fist full of notes.
there was a landrover at llandudno with a 4lw under the bonnet i think thats from berwicks area.
John
.At least Lyons had more sense than to build another one for himself.Anyway I’d bet it did’nt sound as good as my 6 Litre V12 XJ running with straight through exhausts.
