Barriers - steel or concrete?

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Steel motorway barriers (ARMCO - American Rolling Mill COmpany) seem to be disappearing and replaced by concrete ones (Jersey Barriers - developed by the New JERSEY State Highway Department, USA)

I can’t help feeling that HGV’s would have a bigger tendancy to flip over a Jersey Barrier whereas the Armco Barrier would have more “give”.

Maybe not.
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Dieseldoforme:
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Steel motorway barriers (ARMCO - American Rolling Mill COmpany) seem to be disappearing and replaced by concrete ones (Jersey Barriers - developed by the New JERSEY State Highway Department, USA)

I can’t help feeling that HGV’s would have a bigger tendancy to flip over a Jersey Barrier whereas the Armco Barrier would have more “give”.

Maybe not.
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concrete barriers bounce you back and less chance of a cross over therefore no need to shut road in both directions

Either of them will destroy all the plastic on my MAN, so I’m gonna do my best to stay off them.

Armco barriers were designed to deflect a one ton car travelling at 60 mph striking them at an angle of five degrees so in terms of HGV accidents they are about as much use as a chocolate fireguard.

To be honest if a truck is in an accident going from lane 1 to lane 3 violently then it’s just down to the gods whether it stays on the same carriageway or not.
Look at that one in Italy, just ploughed straight through it.

Me personally think they should be compulsory on every motorway and I also think they ought to be 5 ft higher, that way you’re killing two birds with one stone by having more protection and also a screen when it does go wrong.
It will be only us who can see over them then.

FarnboroughBoy11:
To be honest if a truck is in an accident going from lane 1 to lane 3 violently then it’s just down to the gods whether it stays on the same carriageway or not.
Look at that one in Italy, just ploughed straight through it.

Me personally think they should be compulsory on every motorway and I also think they ought to be 5 ft higher, that way you’re killing two birds with one stone by having more protection and also a screen when it does go wrong.
It will be only us who can see over them then.

Like you said…instant screen and no car drivers rubber necking…

I don’t really think about it and I dont think what they are made of will be the first thing on my mind if im heading in there direction :slight_smile:

Steel or concrete not really fussed…

Anybody got any thoughts on painting them blue though?

Anything as long as it’s blue :wink: :laughing:

chester:
Steel or concrete not really fussed…

Anybody got any thoughts on painting them blue though?

Someone will prob trip over it and ask for pics so they can sue :unamused:

Legend_Scania:

chester:
Steel or concrete not really fussed…

Anybody got any thoughts on painting them blue though?

Someone will prob trip over it and ask for pics so they can sue :unamused:

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They still have the wire rope inside the concrete.

On big motorway widening schemes they usually have concrete barriers, for the protection of the workforce.

sod the barriers off,fit a steel spike on all vehicles facing towards the driver in the middle of the steering wheel,see how soon you do’nt need your barriers anymore.people get too complacent in their warm ■■■■■ vehicles when it’s minus 8,false security.

Concrete you don’t see many c/overs in france.
regards dave.

dafdave:
Concrete you don’t see many c/overs in france.
regards dave.

And you don’t have to shut the lanes with the associated roadworks every night with the associated muppetry to repair the Kinks.

I once heard some Rdc drivers room bs that went along the lines of 'they are replacing with concrete so that when bikers come off they just slide off the concrete & not risk getting stuck in the metal"…:slight_smile::):slight_smile:

FarnboroughBoy11:
To be honest if a truck is in an accident going from lane 1 to lane 3 violently then it’s just down to the gods whether it stays on the same carriageway or not.
Look at that one in Italy, just ploughed straight through it.

Me personally think they should be compulsory on every motorway and I also think they ought to be 5 ft higher, that way you’re killing two birds with one stone by having more protection and also a screen when it does go wrong.
It will be only us who can see over them then.

Totally agree and it seems that is what they are doing in most roadworks these days … seen a lot of stretches of mway converted to concrete barrier (although they are not making them 5 ft high) Bloody rubber neckers boil my ■■■■.

Pimpdaddy:
I once heard some Rdc drivers room bs that went along the lines of 'they are replacing with concrete so that when bikers come off they just slide off the concrete & not risk getting stuck in the metal"…:slight_smile::):slight_smile:

motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/ … r-tt-fans/

Perhaps a bit of truth in it.

I’ve read previously about how dangerous the metal wire barriers were to bikers.

Soupstone:
Perhaps a bit of truth in it.

I’ve read previously about how dangerous the metal wire barriers were to bikers.

Ok that’s news to me… That’s not the primary reason for their general installation though is it…!?