I reckon this character was lucky he still has his liberty, edp24.co.uk/news/crime/video … _1_1224276
Does the penalty fit the crime, and should license entitlements be endorsed separately EG: three points for speeding in a truck would go on your L.G.V entitlement on so on. Obviously serious offences like the one above would incur the loss of all entitlements.
Was that it? They’ll be banning you for ■■■■■■■ next. 
Fair enough getting a 6 month ban & a couple of grand fine for SPEEDING but it’s this “Dangerous Driving” complete and utter rubbish catch all phrase the bugs the hell out of me, and gets you a minimum 12 month ban with a criminal record! You also have no choice but to plead not guilty, wasting the courts time as it’s an automatic ban on conviction.
Ok so he was spanking it in a straight line on a motorway, not being aggresive as far as I could tell, wow, tar and feather him the Beast!
I thought they took it easier on the punishments if you’re on a bike as you’ll only kill yourself if you get it wrong.
Silver_Surfer:
Was that it? They’ll be banning you for ■■■■■■■ next.Fair enough getting a 6 month ban & a couple of grand fine for SPEEDING but it’s this “Dangerous Driving” complete and utter rubbish catch all phrase the bugs the hell out of me, and gets you a minimum 12 month ban with a criminal record! You also have no choice but to plead not guilty, wasting the courts time as it’s an automatic ban on conviction.
Ok so he was spanking it in a straight line on a motorway, not being aggresive as far as I could tell, wow, tar and feather him the Beast!
I thought they took it easier on the punishments if you’re on a bike as you’ll only kill yourself if you get it wrong.
Jesus H Christ! I never heard so much ■■■■ in one post on here! There is absolutely no place for that behaviour on PUBLIC ROADS. He should have gone down for a considerable time to encourage the others!
Hang on, speed and danger don’t have this automatic tie-up the system says. I watched a kid on a 50cc rev n go yesterday and at 10mph, he was a complete ■■■■ and a danger to everyone around, especially the kids being helped across the road by a crossing warden as he rode through them!
170 mph or whatever an empty motorway endangers only the one person. Not condoning his actions (even though I actually know this person involved through a pal of his who is a ■■■■ good racer) and he took the risk and will have to take his sentence, but this automatic dangerous is not always true. Daft, crazy, stupid maybe, but not automatically dangerous.
30mph through a crowded town centre is legal, but bloody dangerous sometimes.
44 Tonne Ton:
Silver_Surfer:
Was that it? They’ll be banning you for ■■■■■■■ next.Fair enough getting a 6 month ban & a couple of grand fine for SPEEDING but it’s this “Dangerous Driving” complete and utter rubbish catch all phrase the bugs the hell out of me, and gets you a minimum 12 month ban with a criminal record! You also have no choice but to plead not guilty, wasting the courts time as it’s an automatic ban on conviction.
Ok so he was spanking it in a straight line on a motorway, not being aggresive as far as I could tell, wow, tar and feather him the Beast!
I thought they took it easier on the punishments if you’re on a bike as you’ll only kill yourself if you get it wrong.
Jesus H Christ! I never heard so much [zb] in one post on here! There is absolutely no place for that behaviour on PUBLIC ROADS. He should have gone down for a considerable time to encourage the others!
We will have to agree to disagree then.
To be honnest i would be going after the car that must have been doing around 90mph at the start of the videio rather then the bike especialy as it was a dule carrageway rather then a motorway. As someone mentioned he is endangering himself more then others and im sure being on a bike makes you far more aware of your actions.
The car driver was putting eveyone in danger.
Having said that I think and 18month ban and the fine is about right for what he did
AHT:
To be honnest i would be going after the car that must have been doing around 90mph at the start of the videio rather then the bike especialy as it was a dule carrageway rather then a motorway. As someone mentioned he is endangering himself more then others and im sure being on a bike makes you far more aware of your actions.
The car driver was putting eveyone in danger.Having said that I think and 18month ban and the fine is about right for what he did
If he had hit a car side on, the bike would probably gone straight through the car killing the occupants.
Having observed the behaviour of motorcyclists over many years there are an awful lot of idiots who seem to have total disregard for their own and the safety of others.
As far as I am concerned he is an arrogant idiot who has probably survived doing his stupid antics by the quick thinking of others in getting out of his way. One day he will probably become another statistic because he is unlikely to change his ways.
Waddy, how the hell is he going to hit anything side on when everything is going the same way and there are no turns across the traffic. Great argument, you might as well use the one that if hereversed into a coach at this speed, all the passengers (not forgetting the children) would have died. Regarding the 156 mph, where did he do this speed? The highest I saw was less than this and the police car caught him up rapidly whilst doing it. Still daft and deserved a slapping though.
Waddy640:
If he had hit a car side on, the bike would probably gone straight through the car killing the occupants.
Where the [ZB] did you get this idea from ?
You should think of the children before spouting such complete and utter ■■■■■■■■ !
DoYouMeanMe?:
Hang on, speed and danger don’t have this automatic tie-up the system says. I watched a kid on a 50cc rev n go yesterday and at 10mph, he was a complete ■■■■ and a danger to everyone around, especially the kids being helped across the road by a crossing warden as he rode through them!
170 mph or whatever an empty motorway endangers only the one person. Not condoning his actions (even though I actually know this person involved through a pal of his who is a ■■■■ good racer) and he took the risk and will have to take his sentence, but this automatic dangerous is not always true. Daft, crazy, stupid maybe, but not automatically dangerous.
30mph through a crowded town centre is legal, but bloody dangerous sometimes.
He wasn’t on an empty motorway though, was he?
No he wasn’t and also on the footage shown, he wasn’t doing 156mph!
DoYouMeanMe?:
No he wasn’t and also on the footage shown, he wasn’t doing 156mph!
A jury heard all the evidence and found him guilty so what are you arguing about? Do you doubt he exceeeded the speed limit?
It just seems strange to me that the article says 156mph so you would think they have footage of it somewhere, but then don’t show it. That seems quite strange to me, not to use the chance to get old people firmly on the outrage bus, hanging 'em all high. Anyway, time for your ovaltine and hark back to the good old days when the man with the red flag used to walk in front…
DoYouMeanMe?:
It just seems strange to me that the article says 156mph so you would think they have footage of it somewhere, but then don’t show it. That seems quite strange to me, not to use the chance to get old people firmly on the outrage bus, hanging 'em all high. Anyway, time for your ovaltine and hark back to the good old days when the man with the red flag used to walk in front…
You believe everything you read in the papers? Biker are we?
Believe very little I see in the papers. They are there to sell papers not tell the truth. A bit like courts are there to provide a place of work for solicitors, part of the ‘let’s still use latin to confuse the commoners’ and sod all to do with truth or justice. I also believe very little in tampered videos which, if you care to look closely, have been speeded up at the start when the CARS speed reads 156mph and it is catching the bike up.
He’s still daft for doing it there and then, but it’s amazing how it was safe for the copper to do 156mph on the same road and that wasn’t a danger to anyone.
If you have ever owned a performance bike, then you may have some simpathy for this rider. There is nothing with four wheels within the price range of average Joe that will get anywhere close to a performance bike.
Yes they go like stonk and they do stop pretty quick too, but only in a straight line. You are all aware that a bike is the hardest vehicle to spot and judge speed when using your mirrors. If a vehicle had pulled out into his path, avoiding action is not an option, because at speed you cannot make sudden changes in direction on a bike.
In an accident he may well be the only person injured and another driver may of ‘caused’ the collision, but I certainly don’t want to be put in a position where I am ‘responsible’ for the death of another person.
The way the camera in the video was moving suggests that he was caught by a police bike, whether it was marked or unmarked, there was already one person’s life he was putting in danger.
There is a time and place for speed like this and that was not it. The way he hanged his head at the end of the video said it all.
I’m not arguing that he shouldn’t be banned and heavily fined, i’m just saying all this talk of sending him to prison is a bit ott.
A 6 month ban and 2 grand fine would be ample in my opinion, lesson learned. Everyone deserves a 2nd chance. We don’t live in a police state last time I checked. Ok he was a tad exuberent and let his impulses get the better of him but i’m sure he pays his taxes and is an otherwise up standing and law abiding member of society.
He was going fast in a straight line with no undertaking or tailgating in broad day light on a good road. He probably wasn’t thinking of the children though.
all i saw was a bloke on a bike doing 102mph. a copper doing 146mph, then sitting on the bikers arse end, trying to push him some more.
nothing dangerous, a reasonable speed for the conditions.
he looked prety safe, even with an idiot of a copper pushing him.
i should imagine if you was in a car on the road that was busy and a moterbike came past at 156mph you would think wtf was that.
ive done 136mph in a car on the M1 5am on a sun morning with NOTHING on the road and its amazing how fast everything goes by.
doing that in traffic is stupid, a driver will check his mirrors to pull over and the next thing evil kinevil is there doing 156.
Folks, it was the car that did 156 to catch the bike up, therefore the car did a higher speed than the bike. If ■■■ speed of the bike is dangerous, why is it safer in a car? And before anyone tells me about highly trained police drivers, let me assure you, highly trained they are not. I’ve had enough of them a race school pupils to assure you of that! One copper I know who used to trace very well told me himself that the police training is just to tick boxes and pacify anyone who questions it.