a question came up the other day. don’t know why, it was just one of those random things, and i can’t get it out of my head.
if a driver is banned for whatever reason, and he isn’t due to get his licence back until after the DCPC deadline. can he do the course without having his licence? or can it still be uploaded before he gets it back?
its being doing my head in.
so put my mind at rest. please.
We had 2 banned drivers (Both CAR & HGV Entitlements) and they did DCPC so that may help ya sleep?
They can do the dcpc periodic courses and have them uploaded PROVIDING they have the (banned) licence with them on the days that they are training and it shows that they hold the relevant categories (LGV or PCV) on it
Tracey at the driver cpc DSA hotline was very helpful - 0191 201 8112
Yeah but when you do a cpc module you have to bring both parts of your licence with you■■?
kr79:
Yeah but when you do a cpc module you have to bring both parts of your licence with you■■?
that’s the bit what i can’t get my head round. if someone can’t do the cpc without a licence. then they get it back, they might have to wait a while before attending a course. so technically banned for longer than the origional ban.
The answer is NO.
To attend periodic DCPC training you must have the following documents
VALID PHOTO CARD LICENCE
PAPER COUNTER PART with issue number to match photocard
or
VALID PASSPORT
VALID OLD STYLE PAPER LICENCE
Those are for the ID check.
The trainer must also check the candidate holds a valid category which would be something beginning C or D
Can’t say I agree with these rules. Banned or not you can still attend training and still learn ready for when your licence comes back.
You could attend the training - but it wouldn’t be able to count as DCPC.
would a person be allowed to show their driver card instead of a licence?
Driver-Once-More:
would a person be allowed to show their driver card instead of a licence?
No, iirc having a digi card is not an entitlement to drive or accepted as such going by some dvla guidebook I read? But as usual I stand to be corrected by those in the know.
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Looking at my didi card, although it does not have my entitlements on it, it does, however, have the half bus/half truck symbol at the bottom …
Cruise Control:
No, iirc having a digi card is not an entitlement to drive or accepted as such going by some dvla guidebook I read?
Correct although you cannot be issued one without a licence to drive a vehicle which requires a digi card.
I think you need to have a word with Tracy Rog 
I rang to see if I could train one of my drivers while he had lost his licence for a month, but was told in no uncertain terms ‘Of course you can’t, he hasn’t got a licence at the moment to upload to, has he?’
I don’t entirely agree with the logic, but that was straight from the horses mouth.
Pat
mrpj:
Cruise Control:
No, iirc having a digi card is not an entitlement to drive or accepted as such going by some dvla guidebook I read?Correct although you cannot be issued one without a licence to drive a vehicle which requires a digi card.
so, once you have a did card, you have it until it runs out, …? even if banned?
Driver-Once-More:
mrpj:
Cruise Control:
No, iirc having a digi card is not an entitlement to drive or accepted as such going by some dvla guidebook I read?Correct although you cannot be issued one without a licence to drive a vehicle which requires a digi card.
so, once you have a did card, you have it until it runs out, …? even if banned?
Yes you keep it. As having one is not entitlement to drive.
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Driver-Once-More:
would a person be allowed to show their driver card instead of a licence?
I’ve just spent the last few days arguing this point with some ‘fellow trainers’ and the rules stipulate no other form of proof of ID or entitlement are allowed. Photocard licence and counter part or passport and paper licence.
I once accepted a photocopy licence and apparently I should be sent to jail for that.
A digi is no more an entitlement to drive than an old paper chart is.
so from what has been said. a newbie can’t do his dcpc until he has passed his test, and has his licence in his hand?
No mate, a new driver has to pass modules two and four, then apply for his DPC card.
Then he has five years in which to do 35 hours training if he wishes to keep his entitlement.
In any case, after a ban, you generally have to ask the TC for your vocational entitlement back…which you don’t normally get straight away (nb, this may not apply to a short ban under totting up, but certainly will after a major offence like Drunk driving for instance).
mrpj:
Correct although you cannot be issued one without a licence to drive a vehicle which requires a digi card.
So how do you go on if youve got a LandRover/Van and trailer that requires a tacho?
toowise:
mrpj:
Correct although you cannot be issued one without a licence to drive a vehicle which requires a digi card.So how do you go on if youve got a LandRover/Van and trailer that requires a tacho?
I don’t see how that would cause a problem, you should be able to get a digi card with just a B licence because of this sort of set up.
I know i’m a bit thick but if you are banned your paper licence is taken away right-therefore you cannot do any cpc modules…so if you have completed say 28 hours and your ban goes over the sept 14 then they (the hours) are lost.
Also shep said the issue number must match on the green counter part paper licence and the pink photo card…well i’ve just had a look at mine and i assume the issue no is the number on the bottom r/h corner of the paper licence and the back of the photo card…don’t match…in fact i can’t find any numbers that match-help please