Every country in Europe has a ring road or bypass to avoid a town or city , and especially in France even villages have a ring road to avoid the centre .
But not the mad English , lets just send everything through the middle , choking up the place with above the legal emissions limit .
Take Salisbury for an example , about time they had a bypass but will be stopped in it’s tracks by a yoghurt eating woolly jumper wearing tree hugger who spotted the rare spotted newt or the bird that flew 5000 miles to lay it’s eggs .
To be fair, at least Salisbury makes an attempt at having a ring road (and I dont mean the bit thatgoesaround the towncentre).
Like so many other popular shopping/visiting places, it suffers from a topographical inability to build a road around itself, unless at prohibitive cost.
the nodding donkey:
To be fair, at least Salisbury makes an attempt at having a ring road (and I dont mean the bit thatgoesaround the towncentre).
Like so many other popular shopping/visiting places, it suffers from a topographical inability to build a road around itself, unless at prohibitive cost.
Just build a road around the south side.
Flat, no housing. Bit wet but a few earth works could cure that.
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And there’s an uninhabited old building there that could be knocked down and used for foundations.
In Hull they are ripping out traffic lanes to make more bus lanes and cycle tracks, its caused a bit of a ruccus…
The old France is still there if you know where to look. 
toby1234abc:
Every country in Europe has a ring road or bypass to avoid a town or city , and especially in France even villages have a ring road to avoid the centre .
No they don’t. When I’m driving to where we go on hols in Loire region we go through several towns and a small city along the Loire where the roads go straight through the centre.
Conor:
toby1234abc:
Every country in Europe has a ring road or bypass to avoid a town or city , and especially in France even villages have a ring road to avoid the centre .No they don’t.
The difference being they put more priority on keeping the way clear of parked vehicles etc.
Franglais:
the nodding donkey:
To be fair, at least Salisbury makes an attempt at having a ring road (and I dont mean the bit thatgoesaround the towncentre).
Like so many other popular shopping/visiting places, it suffers from a topographical inability to build a road around itself, unless at prohibitive cost.Just build a road around the south side.
Flat, no housing. Bit wet but a few earth works could cure that.
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And there’s an uninhabited old building there that could be knocked down and used for foundations.
Sometimes the difference between sarcasm and ignorance is difficult to establish…
I’d prefer driving through a town center to driving on a motorway, especially paid by the hour in an automatic lorry. Plenty to look at, nice cars, young ladies, buildings etc. Much better than staring at a pair of back doors for hours on end. Traffic congestion is guaranteed on both, but it ■■■■■■ me off on a motorway, whereas it’s to be expected in towns, so it doesn’t cause so much stress.
Franglais:
the nodding donkey:
To be fair, at least Salisbury makes an attempt at having a ring road (and I dont mean the bit thatgoesaround the towncentre).
Like so many other popular shopping/visiting places, it suffers from a topographical inability to build a road around itself, unless at prohibitive cost.Just build a road around the south side.
Flat, no housing. Bit wet but a few earth works could cure that.
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And there’s an uninhabited old building there that could be knocked down and used for foundations.
There already is a Southern “ringroad” of sorts.
Like I said, if a “proper” ring road was to be build, it would need to cut through farmland, Woodlands, cross the marshy ground and many stream beds of the river Nadder and the river Avon, and some very undulating hillside that would make the cost prohibitive.
It’s similar in the situation at Bath, a very popular place for shopping and visitors, hemmed in by hills, with two major roads (A4 East to West, A36/A46 North to South) crossing.
I see the biggest problem as inconsiderate parking on the main through roads. I dont drive the bigger stuff but wonder how the low loaders and livestock trailers are going to get through.
Conor , you mentioned driving the car on holiday through centres but France has Bison Futé , or clever bison traffic advice , for lorry drivers , they can avoid long delays at peak periods of holiday traffic and follow the yellow diversion signs .
Sometimes the diversion is a long way round but you get to off the beaten track on empty roads in scenic areas .
They have an English speaking radio station traffic updates to avoid the jams .
Carryfast:
Conor:
toby1234abc:
Every country in Europe has a ring road or bypass to avoid a town or city , and especially in France even villages have a ring road to avoid the centre .No they don’t.
The difference being they put more priority on keeping the way clear of parked vehicles etc.
They have to for all the oversize CONVOI EXCEPTIONNEL stuff.
Thats Backward but interesting and fun.
the nodding donkey:
Franglais:
the nodding donkey:
To be fair, at least Salisbury makes an attempt at having a ring road (and I dont mean the bit thatgoesaround the towncentre).
Like so many other popular shopping/visiting places, it suffers from a topographical inability to build a road around itself, unless at prohibitive cost.Just build a road around the south side.
Flat, no housing. Bit wet but a few earth works could cure that.
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And there’s an uninhabited old building there that could be knocked down and used for foundations.Sometimes the difference between sarcasm and ignorance is difficult to establish…
Hopefully not ignorant. Neither pointedly sarcastic.
Easy enough (in civil engineering terms) to put a raised road around the south, surely? But the fans of the water meadows and the cathedral might object.
salisburyjournal.co.uk/news … ilt-roads/
That is from 2008 talking about previous plans.
And here is an objection from earlier:
“I dost rise an objection to this new edifice. `twill be a blight on the view from my dwelling tawards my cattles. Why thesse incomers wishes to put up their religious buildings here is a mysterie to we olde rezidents.
I dost hold frim that the building of white stone buildings is unnecessary and is only to fuel the vanities of theier builders.
We should all resist the building of this cathedral now! Nowt is wrang with the olde religions that hath served us well for years”.
They have been moaning about whether to build a bypass for Westbury since the 1970s , they had numerous opportunities but missed them as Beckington got theirs in the 80’s .
The comment in the Salisbury paper about Hgv’s being unpleasant , what a negative and ill informed view .
Bet they like the lorry who delivers their patio slabs that they got cheap off the internet .
It’s obvious to continue the bypass from Westbury to bypass Yarnbrook and West Ashton which are really bad bottlenecks .
All the residents for these two hamlets live on the side of the main road and would be fully aware of increasing traffic levels and above the legal limit of pollution levels .
No point complaining about traffic when you buy a house by a busy road .
Whether they don’t like , lorries are here to stay.
We used to laugh when we lived in a village in France and the D road nearby was the convoi exceptional route…
Loved seeing the boats etc being transported
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newmercman:
I’d prefer driving through a town center to driving on a motorway, especially paid by the hour in an automatic lorry. Plenty to look at, nice cars, young ladies, buildings etc. Much better than staring at a pair of back doors for hours on end. Traffic congestion is guaranteed on both, but it ■■■■■■ me off on a motorway, whereas it’s to be expected in towns, so it doesn’t cause so much stress.
Exactly my thoughts, always nice to steer clear of motorways if possible. Back doubles, short cuts are the way to keep away from the many morons who can only follow one route.
Always steered clear of the ringroad round a city we lived in in the UK. Usual muppets with no lane discipline and no regard for anything other than to get from A to B via the quickest route.
Whitchurch in Bristol has signs saying “no to ring road” in signs outside houses.
They really much enjoy the heavy traffic coming into/out of Bristol everyday…!!!
It’s probably because they don’t want the groups of tree huggers more than they don’t want a bypass.
DAF95XF:
Whitchurch in Bristol has signs saying “no to ring road” in signs outside houses.
They really much enjoy the heavy traffic coming into/out of Bristol everyday…!!!
The South East Bristol ring road will put extra traffic onto some existing roads and is part of a scheme involving new houses being built too.
bristolpost.co.uk/news/bris … nt-2236722
Not simply a new road built miles away taking traffic away from Whitchurch.
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Edit, note that is 2018 piece though.