Backwards Britain

toby1234abc:
Every country in Europe has a ring road or bypass to avoid a town or city , and especially in France even villages have a ring road to avoid the centre .
But not the mad English , lets just send everything through the middle , choking up the place with above the legal emissions limit .
Take Salisbury for an example , about time they had a bypass but will be stopped in it’s tracks by a yoghurt eating woolly jumper wearing tree hugger who spotted the rare spotted newt or the bird that flew 5000 miles to lay it’s eggs .

You answered your own statement there Toby.
Salisbury, Melksham, Devizes, Westbury and Bath have all been waiting for years for bypasses or have had plans rejected because of said protesters and wealthy landowners who won’t sell land.

Edit. and now Chippenham have been allocated £75mil for an Eastern bypass that’s not necessary.

the nodding donkey:

Franglais:

the nodding donkey:
To be fair, at least Salisbury makes an attempt at having a ring road (and I dont mean the bit thatgoesaround the towncentre).
Like so many other popular shopping/visiting places, it suffers from a topographical inability to build a road around itself, unless at prohibitive cost.

Just build a road around the south side.
Flat, no housing. Bit wet but a few earth works could cure that.
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And there’s an uninhabited old building there that could be knocked down and used for foundations.

There already is a Southern “ringroad” of sorts.
Like I said, if a “proper” ring road was to be build, it would need to cut through farmland, Woodlands, cross the marshy ground and many stream beds of the river Nadder and the river Avon, and some very undulating hillside that would make the cost prohibitive.

It’s similar in the situation at Bath, a very popular place for shopping and visitors, hemmed in by hills, with two major roads (A4 East to West, A36/A46 North to South) crossing.

Bath doesn’t need an East/West bypass just a North/South A36 one. It is quite feasible with only a canal to cross. Plans were once put in to facilitate a tunnel but that was rejected by the locals.

Franglais:

the nodding donkey:

Franglais:

the nodding donkey:
To be fair, at least Salisbury makes an attempt at having a ring road (and I dont mean the bit thatgoesaround the towncentre).
Like so many other popular shopping/visiting places, it suffers from a topographical inability to build a road around itself, unless at prohibitive cost.

Just build a road around the south side.
Flat, no housing. Bit wet but a few earth works could cure that.
.
And there’s an uninhabited old building there that could be knocked down and used for foundations.

Sometimes the difference between sarcasm and ignorance is difficult to establish…

Hopefully not ignorant. Neither pointedly sarcastic.
Easy enough (in civil engineering terms) to put a raised road around the south, surely? But the fans of the water meadows and the cathedral might object.
salisburyjournal.co.uk/news … ilt-roads/
That is from 2008 talking about previous plans.
And here is an objection from earlier:
“I dost rise an objection to this new edifice. `twill be a blight on the view from my dwelling tawards my cattles. Why thesse incomers wishes to put up their religious buildings here is a mysterie to we olde rezidents.
I dost hold frim that the building of white stone buildings is unnecessary and is only to fuel the vanities of theier builders.
We should all resist the building of this cathedral now! Nowt is wrang with the olde religions that hath served us well for years”.

Brilliant!! :smiley:

toby1234abc:
Every country in Europe has a ring road or bypass to avoid a town or city , and especially in France even villages have a ring road to avoid the centre .
But not the mad English , lets just send everything through the middle , choking up the place with above the legal emissions limit .
Take Salisbury for an example , about time they had a bypass but will be stopped in it’s tracks by a yoghurt eating woolly jumper wearing tree hugger who spotted the rare spotted newt or the bird that flew 5000 miles to lay it’s eggs .

Been driving in near every singly EU country.
England road not best not worst.Best urban road and villages in Sweden,Denmark.Worst urban road ,villages road crossing it is exactly France.Sorry but for me France don t like much more than any another country.

Dog walkers and nature lovers also stopped a park and ride in Batheaston , the farmer refused to sell , the park and ride would helped with the London road jams going in to Bath from the East , they stopped a bus tram plan , another plan dropped .