Well final option open to you then is find a company that runs something better than DAFs. 
switchlogic:
Well final option open to you then is find a company that runs something better than DAFs.
Thank you, for the helpful input.
Franglais:
switchlogic:
Well final option open to you then is find a company that runs something better than DAFs.Thank you, for the helpful input.
Anytime friend, anytime
Would I be correct to think that from the posts on here it is mainly DAF that appear to be a problem?
From what switch logic says Volvo appear to be fine? It senses a collision, gives a warning, the driver gently brakes or accelerates (some kind of positive action) and the system stands down.
As far as I can see, any that brake without warning are not functioning as per the legislation brought in on 1st November 2015. This legislation governs AEBS only - I suppose manufacturers could have other variants of the same technology using the same components but working differently. A 65 plate vehicle may not have been built after 1st November 2015 and therefore does not need to meet the requirements.
I would not drive a vehicle that brakes without warning. Alternatively if I could identify those times it is likely to do so, I would need to modify my driving style to account for it.
Of course the system may even be switchable (livestock and tankers may not want AEBS functioning) and so a driver could perhaps disable it if needed.
Franglais:
Are you reading all that Conor wrote?
I do just to have a laugh at what an arrogant [zb] he seems to be. 
shep532:
Would I be correct to think that from the posts on here it is mainly DAF that appear to be a problem?From what switch logic says Volvo appear to be fine? It senses a collision, gives a warning, the driver gently brakes or accelerates (some kind of positive action) and the system stands down.
As far as I can see, any that brake without warning are not functioning as per the legislation brought in on 1st November 2015. This legislation governs AEBS only - I suppose manufacturers could have other variants of the same technology using the same components but working differently. A 65 plate vehicle may not have been built after 1st November 2015 and therefore does not need to meet the requirements.
I would not drive a vehicle that brakes without warning. Alternatively if I could identify those times it is likely to do so, I would need to modify my driving style to account for it.
Of course the system may even be switchable (livestock and tankers may not want AEBS functioning) and so a driver could perhaps disable it if needed.
For myself Ive no experience of the Volvo system, only the DAF one. My vehicle was built and reg before Nov 15 so maybe more recent models have overcome the false positives? If one could predict when a false positive was likely to happen it wouldnt be such a problem, and Id have thought it would have been sorted at the design/development stage? As I said, the system cannot be fully disabled on mine. Believe me, Ive tried! As an aside, Im not, or at least wasnt "anti-DAF". Ive had a couple of Volvo FHs and a few DAF SSCs over the past few years. Both seemed good. A week in a 3 pedal Scania went OK too. All seemed to be improving with time, but the latest offering from DAF is ####ing ####! Even the fitters in our local dealers dont bother defending the things anymore! Or maybe theyre just fed up with me??
Pat Hasler:
I have to say, some of the remarks on here show plain ignorance
As most of you drive in the UK you canât possibly have any idea what it is like to drive over here ? I was not poodling along at 56 mph, this is the NJ turnpike everything is shifting at 65 or 85 mph, the particular spot has 2 left lanes and 2 right lanes that are split by a divider section, in the past I have seen other idiots make the mistake but when they turn to cross they usually stop in the divider to check, this idiot didnât, I was fully aware and the buy pulled across without stopping. The braking system took charge before my foot hit the pedal. If you donât know the situation or how traffic flows on the busiest highway in the north eastern states you canât understand the situation. Some even suggest I was not paying attention LOL⌠I have been driving heavy trucks since 1975 and have had not one accident or got any points on any licence, I think a lack of concentration would occasionally get me in trouble by now LOL
Having driven up and down that very road, I understand what Pat is saying about the pace of the traffic. On one section of the pike there is in effect two motorways, one for trucks and one for everything else, iirc its about 8 lanes wide with concrete dividers.
muckles:
Franglais:
Are you reading all that Conor wrote?I do just to have a laugh at what an arrogant [zb] he seems to be.
if you only think he âseemsâ to be,then you obviously are not familiar with the standard of his normal posting attitude⌠
Radar19:
Juddian:
How did we and our forebears manage for all those years driving (a bloody sight faster than they go now) vehicles with nothing like the braking capability they have today, and most went through their whole lives behind the lorry wheel without ramming some bugger up the arse.I asked one of the lads with a lorry equipped with this marvel how to switch it (and adaptive cruise) off when i have to use one, he looked aghast and said if i should have an accident with it turned off it would be my faultâŚno i wonât counter that point because iâm denting the wall with me headâŚ
Iâd counter that by saying when you were driving trucks that werenât limited, the traffic was a lot less and generally people were better behaved behind the wheel. Too many knobs driving flash motors thinking they own the road, too many idiots on smart phones not paying attention, too many clowns not actually knowing the rules of the road in todays world.
Trust me late 1980âs M1 or M40 approaching London at anytime after around 5 am or outbound between 6 pm-8 pm wasnât much different in terms of traffic hazards as anything that youâll find today.Nor is Patâs example anything that unusual compared to the type of traffic mayhem and resulting nutters often encountered at the M4/Heathrow,M4/M25,or M40/M25 splits,at those times, then or now,for three examples.
Socketset:
Having driven up and down that very road, I understand what Pat is saying about the pace of the traffic.
Absolutely.Even during the mostly still 55 mph limit days theyâd often happily sit at 55 mph on an empty Interstate in the middle of no where.But still treat the roads around NY like a race track whether trucks or cars. 
Carryfast:
Radar19:
Juddian:
How did we and our forebears manage for all those years driving (a bloody sight faster than they go now) vehicles with nothing like the braking capability they have today, and most went through their whole lives behind the lorry wheel without ramming some bugger up the arse.I asked one of the lads with a lorry equipped with this marvel how to switch it (and adaptive cruise) off when i have to use one, he looked aghast and said if i should have an accident with it turned off it would be my faultâŚno i wonât counter that point because iâm denting the wall with me headâŚ
Iâd counter that by saying when you were driving trucks that werenât limited, the traffic was a lot less and generally people were better behaved behind the wheel. Too many knobs driving flash motors thinking they own the road, too many idiots on smart phones not paying attention, too many clowns not actually knowing the rules of the road in todays world.
Trust me late 1980âs M1 or M40 approaching London at anytime after around 5 am or outbound between 6 pm-8 pm wasnât much different in terms of traffic hazards as anything that youâll find today.Nor is Patâs example anything that unusual compared to the type of traffic mayhem and resulting nutters often encountered at the M4/Heathrow,M4/M25,or M40/M25 splits,at those times, then or now,for three examples.
I was also thinking of the mayhem that was the M6 southbound before the M6 toll went in, you could almost guarantee unless in the dead hours coming to a halt just past the A5 or M54 southbound.
There was no M25 when i started so any cross London routes were through the thick of it or using the crafty routes you gradually learned,no bloody M40 or M42 either, M10 was a vey important road (and the North Orbital) cos youâd slip down there onto the A6 then trun right at the T junction onto the A1 or slip down through Potters Bar and Southgate of heading to Dagenham/Rainham or the various tunnels, not many other motorways either so whilst there wasnât the volumes of today, there wasnât the motorway capacity of today either, indeed the A1 was single carriageway for many miles.
M1 went down to two lanes below Hemel right down to London.
So plenty of hard running and planning to reach certain junctions or towns before the peak period started, then rushing round like a loony to beat the crush getting out againâŚ
What made it pleasant then was the ladies dressed nicely in those days, and the men knew how to behave towards them⌠
Radar19:
Juddian:
How did we and our forebears manage for all those years driving (a bloody sight faster than they go now) vehicles with nothing like the braking capability they have today, and most went through their whole lives behind the lorry wheel without ramming some bugger up the arse.I asked one of the lads with a lorry equipped with this marvel how to switch it (and adaptive cruise) off when i have to use one, he looked aghast and said if i should have an accident with it turned off it would be my faultâŚno i wonât counter that point because iâm denting the wall with me headâŚ
Iâd counter that by saying when you were driving trucks that werenât limited, the traffic was a lot less and generally people were better behaved behind the wheel. Too many knobs driving flash motors thinking they own the road, too many idiots on smart phones not paying attention, too many clowns not actually knowing the rules of the road in todays world.
What youâre forgetting mate is that Juddian has previous experience with intelligent systems that stop you ramming into things!
switchlogic:
Well you seem to let the warning go off and let it apply the brakes. As has been pointed out you should tap the brake pedal the moment the alarm goes off, shouldnât be hard for a super trucker like yourself, this then will stop it jamming on the brakes.
No, â â â â â â â â â . As others have said you get no warning with DAFs when it does this, it just flashes up the warning at the same time as slamming on the brakes.
Go crawl back under your rock, knuckle dragger.
switchlogic:
Well final option open to you then is find a company that runs something better than DAFs.
The company I drive for pay ÂŁ41,500 a year. I think that is more important than what truck you drive although they did have a â â â â who took a job then packed it in to go work for someone else for ÂŁ15,000 a year less just because he wanted his own motor.
Franglais:
For myself Ive no experience of the Volvo system, only the DAF one. My vehicle was built and reg before Nov15 so maybe more recent models have overcome the false positives?
The one that did it on me on Friday night was a 16 plate with 32,000km on and its only a few months old at most.
Evil8Beezle:
What youâre forgetting mate is that Juddian has previous experience with intelligent systems that stop you ramming into things!
We can safely say that if anyone could survive the pre limiter era here with the average Brit 2 + 2 or 2 + 3 and 4 x 2 unit type artic.Then they âshouldâ be able to manage on the I 95 with the stability and braking capacity of the average American 36 t max 3 + 2 and 6 x 4 unit.Without ploughing through something at 65 mph + .Thatâs trying to evade a jam by crossing the lanes at a typical motorway split in heavy traffic.Without any need for the computing power and collision avoidance technology expected in a modern airliner or high speed train. Ironically both Juddian and Pat seeming to be of that similar old school.Only Pat being able to explain the difference in his thinking as opposed to Juddianâs in that regard.
On that note maybe Pat has more reason to thank the inherent superiority of that average US configuration under heavy braking than the computer. 
Conor:
switchlogic:
Well you seem to let the warning go off and let it apply the brakes. As has been pointed out you should tap the brake pedal the moment the alarm goes off, shouldnât be hard for a super trucker like yourself, this then will stop it jamming on the brakes.No, [zb]. As others have said you get no warning with DAFs when it does this, it just flashes up the warning at the same time as slamming on the brakes.
Go crawl back under your rock, knuckle dragger.
THE SUPER TRUCKER HAS SPOKEN! EVERYONE TAKE NOTE
You really donât do yourself any favours Conor old bean, you really do come across as a prize chump to everyone but you on this forum.
Have a lovely evening.
Conor:
switchlogic:
Well final option open to you then is find a company that runs something better than DAFs.The company I drive for pay ÂŁ41,500 a year. I think that is more important than what truck you drive although they did have a â â â â who took a job then packed it in to go work for someone else for ÂŁ15,000 a year less just because he wanted his own motor.
Oh, full on sense of humour failure combined with âlook how much I earnâ willy waving. Bravo, youâve outdone yourself again 
the irony is missing in this one Obiwan 
Personally my advice would be talk to DAF about it. Manufacturers are more accessible than ever. Just this week I had problems with the way Volvo Dynafleet was scoring me, so I tweeted Volvo who put me on to people who could explain in detail literally what the score was! I went from 70s to upper 90s within a day. Its worth seeing if a slight modification in behaviour could help the situation. I doubt Super Trucker will take this advice from a knuckle dragger such as myself tho.