Automatic braking a life saver

We gave all seen the you tube clips with the Volvo or Scania trucks etc and have made some silly remarks about how dangerous they would be with certain loads such as steel etc to which I say secure your load properly and keep a distance and it will not move.
Yesterday afternoon heading up the New Jersey turnpike and coming to the split for local or express routes to the George Washington bridge, I chose the right lanes for local because it showed no delay as the left lanes for express showed 28 minute delay, I was doing about 65 mph when a Swift truck four lanes to my left suddenly turned 90 degree’s and drove across all four lanes to the local side, I was about to die … This wonderful safety system stopped my truck in about 50 feet without locking the wheels and left about 5 feet between me and the side of the afore mentioned vehicle. Believe me, the reaction of that truck saved my life.

You obviously saw what what happening because you have just described it so why did you need the truck to brake for itself :confused: :confused: Are you incapable of hitting the brakes :question:

dri-diddly-iver:
You obviously saw what what happening because you have just described it so why did you need the truck to brake for itself :confused: :confused: Are you incapable of hitting the brakes :question:

A computer will react far faster than you ever can.

But only when it’s reliable and knows what a vehicle looks like. Mine slammed on the anchors the other day when it saw a road sign. A mate of mine had his motor nearly put him through the windscreen when it saw another artic crawling up the exit slip out of Tebay services.

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We have alot of new Dafs with them fitted…And the lads who drive them reckon they are a pain in the arse…Seem to slam the brakes on at the slightest of things…But you can set the distant on them…So maybe once they work out what the best distance setting is for them.Depending on what type of road your on…They might be good…

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So many people moan about this system I wondered what to expect when I got a truck with it. Not had a single time where it’s applied the brakes by accident yet, twice the alarm has gone off for a parked car but no braking applied, maybe because I was feathering the brake pedal. I too think its a brilliant system. Think of the lives that can be saved

Radar19:
A computer will react far faster than you ever can.

As mentioned above, yes. It will not react as good as a competent driver to incidents half mile ahead!!! As in Pats case there shouldn’t have been any need for the computer to take effect.

In my opinion some drivers will not concentrate as much and rely on ‘computer’ to brake for them!! It’s like overkill H&S - when people stop thinking and acting for themselves…that’s when accidents happen!

Was speaking to a chap in Gloucester services the other day who was working for Samworth Brothers and the topic came up on this automatic braking milarkly (I was in a new daf at the time) and we were talking about his New Volvo and my DAF similarities when automatic braking topic arised.

He said he would like to think that if they were driving a truck with this new braking system the dreadful multi-vehicle pile up on the M5 north at Taunton a few years back now might not of happened OR if it did it wouldnt of been so deadly. He mentioned he lost 2 great mates and fellow work collegues as a result to the crash. In my FH4 I drive normally instead of this DAF I think its great like Luke said above and not had any problems with it as of yet.

JollyJack:
In my FH4 I drive normally instead of this DAF I think its great like Luke said above and not had any problems with it as of yet.

Explain please I don’t understand??

dri-diddly-iver:

JollyJack:
In my FH4 I drive normally instead of this DAF I think its great like Luke said above and not had any problems with it as of yet.

Explain please I don’t understand??

You dont understand?

(Speaks slowly and loudly) he normally, as in usually, like everyday, drives a Volvo FH. Not the DAF that he was driving on this particular occasion.

If I have used any words you don’t understand, feel free to ask for an explanation.

Yeah, I didn’the get it either. Thanks for the translation.

I don’t really know whats difficult to understand by what I meant.

The DAF E6 I was driving was a lease unit whilst my Volvo FH4 was in MOT. Also gave me a chance to fully test one out compared to the 105 XF.

Am I speaking English or is my keyboard broken?

JollyJack:
I don’t really know whats difficult to understand by what I meant.

The DAF E6 I was driving was a lease unit whilst my Volvo FH4 was in MOT. Also gave me a chance to fully test one out compared to the 105 XF.

Am I speaking English or is my keyboard broken?

There is nothing wrong with your keyboard. :grimacing:

Pat Hasler:
I was doing about 65 mph when a Swift truck four lanes to my left suddenly turned 90 degree’s and drove across all four lanes to the local side, I was about to die … This wonderful safety system stopped my truck in about 50 feet without locking the wheels and left about 5 feet between me and the side of the afore mentioned vehicle. Believe me, the reaction of that truck saved my life.

You obviously weren’t paying attention to what was going on or you had your brain in switched off mode. By the time the automatic braking engaged in your truck I’d have already been slowing down.

The only time the AEBS has come on on my truck is when its decided I’m going to hit a bridge I’m driving under. Last night it slammed the brakes on when I was going under a chuffing overhead sign gantry on the A1 at 3am in the morning on an empty road. I’ve had nothing but false positives off the AEBS fitted to the trucks I drive. Not once has it ever engaged when the brakes needed to be touched.

well thats that then…the oracle has spoken…the o/p was apparantly driving like a brain dead zombie fanny not paying attention and AEBS is completely useless as any normal professional driver would constantly be on the ball and never require any form of electronic aid whatsoever. …simple as that. would someone please forward this observation to folvo/scania/merc etc so they realise its a complete waste of time,and in future would they please just make trucks without it and sell them a bit cheaper.it serves no purpose other than a back door means of trialling driverless trucks for the nt too distant future when we will all be out of jobs and waffling dung on here…so thats is…no more to see here,move on,topic closed…on reflection,i think il flog my satnav on fleabay now,and see if i can revert back to using a lodestone… :slight_smile:

I’ve seen some of these videos and can’t help but thinking ‘OK, they manage to stop me without running up the arse of whoever is in front but what about causing any carnage behind’? The Merc video shows the vehicle stopping dead and the car just drives off…how would the computer system recognise some knob jockey pulling straight out in front of you from a m/way slip road and roaring off into lane 3? Would I ignore it or slam the brakes on, causing everything behind for Christ knows how far back to pile into something else? Dare say we’ve all seen the video on some cop show of the Vauxhall cavalier losing it in the wet, driving off and causing all sorts of ■■■■ behind…was it on M6?

Actrosman:
I’ve seen some of these videos and can’t help but thinking ‘OK, they manage to stop me without running up the arse of whoever is in front but what about causing any carnage behind’? The Merc video shows the vehicle stopping dead and the car just drives off…how would the computer system recognise some knob jockey pulling straight out in front of you from a m/way slip road and roaring off into lane 3? Would I ignore it or slam the brakes on, causing everything behind for Christ knows how far back to pile into something else? Dare say we’ve all seen the video on some cop show of the Vauxhall cavalier losing it in the wet, driving off and causing all sorts of [zb] behind…was it on M6?

Basically you get an alarm first for 3-5 seconds which tells you of the impending danger,if you touch your brake before that 3-5 seconds is up then the computer recognises your aware of the situation and leaves the braking to you,so if someone cut you up and the alarm went off you just tap your brake to let the computer know your aware of Mr knob jockey and whilst your speed may dip by a couple of mph it won’t drop drastically.
It’s designed to respond if you,the driver doesn’t.
Hope that clears it up for you.

xichrisxi:
Basically you get an alarm first for 3-5 seconds which tells you of the impending danger,if you touch your brake before that 3-5 seconds is up then the computer recognises your aware of the situation and leaves the braking to you,so if someone cut you up and the alarm went off you just tap your brake to let the computer know your aware of Mr knob jockey and whilst your speed may dip by a couple of mph it won’t drop drastically.
It’s designed to respond if you,the driver doesn’t.
Hope that clears it up for you.

So are you saying that if it goes off at 3am on the A1 whilst going under a Gantry, then the driver obviously wasn’t concentrating enough to cancel the warning by touching the brake pedal, before the braking system activated? :laughing:

I drove a Daf with this fitted the other day at times it was annoying but at some points was quite nice. For instance we were on the A34 and it was busy so pointless getting out and overtaking our lane was still doing between 50-55 so just stayed out was a dream to be on cruise and the vehicle keep its distance to the truck in front at a safe gap whilst speeding up and slowing down itself. Before I get slated I agree with everyone who will say that’s just lazy and I should be more than capable of doing this myself but I just found it made for a nice relaxing drive giving me time to concentrate on all the other traffic but hay that’s just my opinion

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muckles:

xichrisxi:
Basically you get an alarm first for 3-5 seconds which tells you of the impending danger,if you touch your brake before that 3-5 seconds is up then the computer recognises your aware of the situation and leaves the braking to you,so if someone cut you up and the alarm went off you just tap your brake to let the computer know your aware of Mr knob jockey and whilst your speed may dip by a couple of mph it won’t drop drastically.
It’s designed to respond if you,the driver doesn’t.
Hope that clears it up for you.

So are you saying that if it goes off at 3am on the A1 whilst going under a Gantry, then the driver obviously wasn’t concentrating enough to cancel the warning by touching the brake pedal, before the braking system activated? :laughing:

Yes,it’s doesn’t just “go off” and slam the brakes on if it does then you should defect it.