AUTO BOXES pics and info please

Left hand down!:

Peter Smythe:

If u take test in an auto truck does that mean u can only drive autos ( same as a car )

No. You can pass on an auto and get a full manual licence provided you already hold a manual car licence.

Pete :laughing: :laughing:

That shouldn’t be allowed imho. :open_mouth:

Agreed, further dumbing down.

Juddian:

Left hand down!:

Peter Smythe:

If u take test in an auto truck does that mean u can only drive autos ( same as a car )

No. You can pass on an auto and get a full manual licence provided you already hold a manual car licence.

Pete :laughing: :laughing:

That shouldn’t be allowed imho. :open_mouth:

Agreed, further dumbing down.

I’m with you two, manual and auto require totally different techniques, not just the obvious gear changing methods, but when to change and how many to change.

Tockwith Training:

C finds crawler, not much use for that, until we get some snow perhaps.

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Are you sure, as its a Renault selector and on my Premium that’s for manual operation

Denis F:
Are you sure, as its a Renault selector and on my Premium that’s for manual operation

I think you are using it wrong. To select auto or manual mode you pull the lever as if you were flashing your lights and to change gear up or down you either push the lever forwards or backwards. C is indeed crawler.

Denis F:

Tockwith Training:

C finds crawler, not much use for that, until we get some snow perhaps.

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Are you sure, as its a Renault selector and on my Premium that’s for manual operation

I recently drove an 18-tonne Renault Midlum and the company told me that basically it was a Volvo in all but name (Volvo Trucks owns Renault Industrial Vehicles). C on the stalk means Cancel - that’s how you switch it from reverse to forward. You pull the stalk back to switch from automatic to manual and back.

ROG:
As many LGVs now have various types of auto gear boxes and there is virtually nothing about them in the LGV TRAINING TIPS thread (link below in my signature) then please could we have some pictures and driver information on them so a separate post can be made from this thread and put into that link

Thank you

I’m disappointed that despite truckbling making 6 clips of auto boxes for you, you haven’t even the decency to thank him for his time and efforts :unamused: . I think other members should quite rightly tell you to [zb] off in future if you want their help or advice on anything. Very poor show. :imp:

IndigoJo:

Denis F:

Tockwith Training:

C finds crawler, not much use for that, until we get some snow perhaps.

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Are you sure, as its a Renault selector and on my Premium that’s for manual operation

I recently drove an 18-tonne Renault Midlum and the company told me that basically it was a Volvo in all but name (Volvo Trucks owns Renault Industrial Vehicles). C on the stalk means Cancel - that’s how you switch it from reverse to forward. You pull the stalk back to switch from automatic to manual and back.

Some people never learn. You switch from reverse to forwards by pulling the lever towards you as if you were flashing the headlights, this puts it straight into auto mode unlike the thick ■■■■■ who put it into “c” crawler and set off in first gear manual and scream the knackers off the motor until they realise it is in manual mode now.

Left hand down!:

ROG:
As many LGVs now have various types of auto gear boxes and there is virtually nothing about them in the LGV TRAINING TIPS thread (link below in my signature) then please could we have some pictures and driver information on them so a separate post can be made from this thread and put into that link

Thank you

I’m disappointed that despite truckbling making 6 clips of auto boxes for you, you haven’t even the decency to thank him for his time and efforts :unamused: . I think other members should quite rightly tell you to [zb] off in future if you want their help or advice on anything. Very poor show. :imp:

Bloody right! I want something doing about it!

I was in the workshop yesterday and a driver walked in saying his truck wouldn’t get in gear. To cut a long conversation short he didn’t realise the vehicle had a clutch :smiley:

If folk can’t work something as basic as that out what chance do they stand of working out what the array of buttons do on modern auto boxes. Switching an auto box into drive is only a small part of mastering an auto box these days and the OP asked for info on the bells and whistles not getting it in gear.

I could do the Actros Rog if you’re still interested ?

That video is still class though :grimacing:

Terry T:
I could do the Actros Rog if you’re still interested ?

Deffo still interested

Right, only 3 months late but here goes. The Actros MP4.

The main gearbox controls are on the right hand stalk. There is a barrel that you twist forwards for Drive [D] and backwards for Reverse [R]. Leaving it in the centre engages Neutral [N].

There is a button on the end of the stalk with an M and an A on. Pressing and instantly releasing it switches between Auto and Auto Economy mode. In Auto Economy mode the top speed is restricted to 85km/h. Your employer may already restrict your vehicles to this or even less but ours are set to 90km/h. Pressing and holding the button engages Manual mode. To change gears manually you pull the stalk up to go up through the gears and push it down to go back down. This is the same action as flashing your headlights when using the headlight stalk.

This stalk is also used to engage the engine brake. You pull it towards you to engage the brake and push it away to disengage. This is the same action as indicating with the indicator stalk. It has 3 stages with each stage producing more braking power. If you engage the 3rd stage the engine will rev up to over 2000rpm and drop a few gears to produce maximum braking power. You can manually change gears yourself to increase the braking power even when in Auto mode. The computer won’t let you do anything that will damage the box, it will just beep if you try and do this. I generally wait till it drops to 1700rpm before I drop a gear or around 1300-1400rpm to drop 2 gears.

There are more controls for the gearbox on the right hand side of the steering wheel. The circular button with the 2 squares on opens up the Eco-Drive page on the onboard computer. The top figure is how fast over your set cruising speed the computer will allow you to go before engaging the engine brake to slow you down. In Auto Economy mode this can only be reduced to +4kmh. In regular Auto mode you can set it to +2km/h but Eco-Roll won’t work. The bottom figure is how much you are willing to to allow the vehicle to slow down when riding over the crest of a hill before gravity builds the speed back up for you on the way back down. In Auto Economy mode this can only be set as low as -3km/h. In regular Auto mode it can be set to 0.

Eco-Roll along with Crawler Mode and Predictive Powertrain Control are activated on the Systems page of the onboard computer.

Crawler Mode is engaged in all pulling away gears which is 1-6 on a 12 speed box. This is handy when in very slow moving traffic as the truck will crawl along without having the press the accelerator. It will do the same in reverse which is ideal for low speed manoeuvring.

Predictive Powertrain Control has a 3d map onboard and knows the topography of the road ahead. When nearing the crest of a hill it will engage neutral and the vehicle will slow down slightly depending on the limits set on the Eco-Drive page. It will then regain speed on the way back down the hill. This is all done to save fuel.

Finally there’s a Rocker mode button which, when activated, will provide all the necessary clutch control needed to pull away when off-road. You may have to rock the vehicle forwards and backwards if your wheels have sunk into the ground for instance. It’s the switch on the left in this picture.

The switch on the right is Hill Hold. This will keep the brakes depressed for a few seconds after releasing the pedal giving you time to press the accelerator without rolling back. After a few seconds it will beep then release allowing you to roll again.

Really useful info. Thanks on behalf of everyone who will find that a big help.

Pete :laughing: :laughing:

Peter Smythe:
Really useful info. Thanks on behalf of everyone who will find that a big help.

Pete :laughing: :laughing:

DITTO :smiley: