I can recall a very large fleet of mainly sided ERF belonging to Associated Lead , I am sure they were based in the NE somewhere .Whatever happened to this company and its fleet .?
I was friendly with a fellow D.O. Apprentice at Rolls Royce Aero Engine Division in Derby in the 60’s.
His name was Jerry Campbell and his Dad was an Associated Lead man - I believe a manager. Jim.
OH! and they lived in Morpeth. Jim.
shugg:
I can recall a very large fleet of mainly sided ERF belonging to Associated Lead , I am sure they were based in the NE somewhere .Whatever happened to this company and its fleet .?
Hi “shugg” They had three places One at Elswick (Long Gone), Antimony Works Wallsend, (Long Gone), Hayhole Works Howdon still going as far as I know, They ran mostley ERFs as you say,But they did have a few Bedfords & a Dennis, They also had tipper trailers for transport the lead dross from Their Chester Works in Lead Lane down to their works on West Ferry Road London, I used to get a lot of work from the Elswick Works , Rolls of lead mostley for the West Coast of ■■■■■■■■ Someone from the north east has one of their ERF,6 wheelers, It appears at a lot of shows, Regards Larry.
Lawrence Dunbar:
shugg:
I can recall a very large fleet of mainly sided ERF belonging to Associated Lead , I am sure they were based in the NE somewhere .Whatever happened to this company and its fleet .?Hi “shugg” They had three places One at Elswick (Long Gone), Antimony Works Wallsend, (Long Gone), Hayhole Works Howdon still going as far as I know, They ran mostley ERFs as you say,But they did have a few Bedfords & a Dennis, They also had tipper trailers for transport the lead dross from Their Chester Works in Lead Lane down to their works on West Ferry Road London, I used to get a lot of work from the Elswick Works , Rolls of lead mostley for the West Coast of ■■■■■■■■ Someone from the north east has one of their ERF,6 wheelers, It appears at a lot of shows, Regards Larry.
PS, I forgot to mention the name changed to Chemson Ltd at one time, Regards Larry.
Lawrence Dunbar:
Lawrence Dunbar:
shugg:
I can recall a very large fleet of mainly sided ERF belonging to Associated Lead , I am sure they were based in the NE somewhere .Whatever happened to this company and its fleet .?Hi “shugg” They had three places One at Elswick (Long Gone), Antimony Works Wallsend, (Long Gone), Hayhole Works Howdon still going as far as I know, They ran mostley ERFs as you say,But they did have a few Bedfords & a Dennis, They also had tipper trailers for transport the lead dross from Their Chester Works in Lead Lane down to their works on West Ferry Road London, I used to get a lot of work from the Elswick Works , Rolls of lead mostley for the West Coast of ■■■■■■■■ Someone from the north east has one of their ERF,6 wheelers, It appears at a lot of shows, Regards Larry.
PS, I forgot to mention the name changed to Chemson Ltd at one time, Regards Larry.
Hi Larry,
Here are a couple of photo’s from another thread, Cheer’s Pete
pete smith:
Lawrence Dunbar:
Lawrence Dunbar:
shugg:
I can recall a very large fleet of mainly sided ERF belonging to Associated Lead , I am sure they were based in the NE somewhere .Whatever happened to this company and its fleet .?Hi “shugg” They had three places One at Elswick (Long Gone), Antimony Works Wallsend, (Long Gone), Hayhole Works Howdon still going as far as I know, They ran mostley ERFs as you say,But they did have a few Bedfords & a Dennis, They also had tipper trailers for transport the lead dross from Their Chester Works in Lead Lane down to their works on West Ferry Road London, I used to get a lot of work from the Elswick Works , Rolls of lead mostley for the West Coast of ■■■■■■■■ Someone from the north east has one of their ERF,6 wheelers, It appears at a lot of shows, Regards Larry.
PS, I forgot to mention the name changed to Chemson Ltd at one time, Regards Larry.
Hi Larry,
Here are a couple of photo’s from another thread, Cheer’s Pete
Thanks Pete, That’s the one I was referring to, IIRC They also had a place in Tipton, Im sure I loaded scrap batteries their in the 80s, Regards Larry.
Hi Larry,
According to our local history group, the Tipton site was closed in 1984 and Associated Lead was renamed or bought out by Calder Group who were based in Chester, sorry no photo’s, Cheer’s Pete
pete smith:
Hi Larry,
According to our local history group, the Tipton site was closed in 1984 and Associated Lead was renamed or bought out by Calder Group who were based in Chester, sorry no photo’s, Cheer’s Pete
That’s correct pete The Calder Group was the lead dept, & The Chemson bit was the Zircon Sand & Drumed & Bagged products, Regards Larry.
Lawrence Dunbar:
pete smith:
Hi Larry,
According to our local history group, the Tipton site was closed in 1984 and Associated Lead was renamed or bought out by Calder Group who were based in Chester, sorry no photo’s, Cheer’s PeteThat’s correct pete The Calder Group was the lead dept, & The Chemson bit was the Zircon Sand & Drumed & Bagged products, Regards Larry.
Larry, I will have a mooch round for some more information/ photo’s in the morning as too many eye’s in the office!! Cheer’s Pete
pete smith:
Lawrence Dunbar:
pete smith:
Hi Larry,
According to our local history group, the Tipton site was closed in 1984 and Associated Lead was renamed or bought out by Calder Group who were based in Chester, sorry no photo’s, Cheer’s PeteThat’s correct pete The Calder Group was the lead dept, & The Chemson bit was the Zircon Sand & Drumed & Bagged products, Regards Larry.
Larry, I will have a mooch round for some more information/ photo’s in the morning as too many eye’s in the office!! Cheer’s Pete
O K.
Not only did the Lead Works have their own fleet but other companies collected and delivered for them, Ouseburn Transport on the Newcastle Quayside also stored many Tons of lead ingots and rolls in their warehouses, I’m not sure if they were the only company at the time in the 60’s but they handled lead from the works for many years until the Works and Ouseburn ended operations in the early 90’s. My Father when on local work ran 20 Ton of lead ingots from the Elswick works to the warehouses for many a year and he used a 30ft Boden tandem hooked to his 30:4:6LX Seddon unit which was ideal as he didn’t need to drop the trailer to weigh off as many other combinations had to do as the bridge was quite short. Years later when I worked for Ouseburn I also ran lead from the works and did the same at two other companies I drove for but I believe by then the companies own vehicles had reduced. The works at Wallsend also had the Cookson name for a while. The ERF rigids of the Associated Lead were well known up and down the road and quite smart considering the works itself was a dirty place in the early days. A model railway vehicle maker EFE also made a fine replica of an Associated Lead KV 8 wheeler in their distinctive livery, very nice too. Franky.
Frankydobo:
Not only did the Lead Works have their own fleet but other companies collected and delivered for them, Ouseburn Transport on the Newcastle Quayside also stored many Tons of lead ingots and rolls in their warehouses, I’m not sure if they were the only company at the time in the 60’s but they handled lead from the works for many years until the Works and Ouseburn ended operations in the early 90’s. My Father when on local work ran 20 Ton of lead ingots from the Elswick works to the warehouses for many a year and he used a 30ft Boden tandem hooked to his 30:4:6LX Seddon unit which was ideal as he didn’t need to drop the trailer to weigh off as many other combinations had to do as the bridge was quite short. Years later when I worked for Ouseburn I also ran lead from the works and did the same at two other companies I drove for but I believe by then the companies own vehicles had reduced. The works at Wallsend also had the Cookson name for a while. The ERF rigids of the Associated Lead were well known up and down the road and quite smart considering the works itself was a dirty place in the early days. A model railway vehicle maker EFE also made a fine replica of an Associated Lead KV 8 wheeler in their distinctive livery, very nice too. Franky.
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Hi Franky, IIRC David Park took over all the work their, He went on to take over Freeways at Dunston in the 90s, Regards Larry.
David park took care of their transport requirements up until they closed elswick works and relocated to the north wales area(I think).
I did many a load out of elswick and we also done scrap batteries back down to northfleet in kent out of scotland and David park done full loads of sheet lead back up to elswick works.
They were a good bunch in the office at David park tpt and a good bunch of drivers as i used to load them back out of kent to the north east.
When I worked at Van Hee’s in the mid 80s we used to load out of Elswick Works. They had a big pile of plastic car bumpers at the far end of the works which they turned into pellets. We used to lead them down to Vauxhall’s at Dunstable. IIRC the weighbridgeman at Elswick was a right awkward little ba**ard.
hi bri, do you know my mate maurice potts,we both had yankee cars,and went to the country festivals, big al.
Aye Pottsy was at Van Hees when I worked there. I used to see him at the classic car shows regularly as well when I used to go in my Scimitars. Knew Jimmy Jarvis anarl, he liked his yank cars as well.
aye bri, norman ilderton would also be there then,i knew him well. big al.
Hi Larry,
A couple of pictures I found on internet of Elswick Lead Works, I presume the second picture is all what is left, says it was on Skinnerburn Road, Cheer’s Pete
When I left the army 1980 my first driving job was for Tyne Shipping Co based at Bowburn, the Transport Manager there was David Park, we were running large gas pipes to Portobello from Hartlepool Steel Wks, I wasn’t there long myself and I believe Tyne Shipping wrapped up a short time later, it wasn’t what you would call a prestigious company so it wasn’t surprising however it was a stepping stone for me. I heard Parks name crop up now and then over the years and I’m not sure if I was at Van Hee or Fergusons at the time when going into Elswick Works that I noticed it had changed to Parks. It was interesting to note over the years since I first went into the Lead Wks as a kid with my Dad how the loading and securing changed.
We hear a lot about how VOSA or whatever they are called today have come out with rules on how vehicles should be loaded and secured, many will remember in the early days when leading ingots from the works that they were simply stacked loose by hand in 1 Ton lumps then the driver set off after weighing to his destination. Later metal banding was put around the ingots but the load still only sat on the deck and by the time I was loading trailers near to the demise of the works we were sheeting and roping or putting straps over each pair of bundles even if they were only going back to the warehouse, how times change. Bryan was correct the Weighman was an awkward sod and he must have worked there years too so he must have upset many a driver! By the way Bigal Morris Potts still likes his Yankee motors, I got a lift home off him last year in a Jeep I think it was and he was looking forward to a coming holiday in the US, I wonder if he’s still there! Cheers Franky.