Are Bosnian people stinks or what?

orys:
imagine you stacked in the middle of nowhere somewhere in Bulgaria when you can’t speak any local language or russian and when no-one want to help you.

Don’t know about Bulgaria, but i’ve been in similar situation in London, couldn’t find anyone who spoke English when i needed help with directions :laughing:

orys:
I wonder if that becouse english (british) drivers are affraid of speaking in other languages, or that was just simply racism?

ffs, 95% of polish drivers don’t know a word in any other language, so get over it

and while you’re at it, learn the meaning of the word racism

milodon:

orys:
I wonder if that becouse english (british) drivers are affraid of speaking in other languages, or that was just simply racism?

ffs, 95% of polish drivers don’t know a word in any other language, so get over it

That bit does quite surprise me, as even the most simple phrases that every driver in Europe can speak & understand are often met with a blank stare from the Eastern Europeans.

Things like SVP,CMR, Chargement, Camion, Laden and Calez gets no flicker of recognition that the person is trying to help them

truckyboy:
ORYS…

  1. Its not compulsory to use a warning triangle in this country

But it’s good i think…

  1. Do,your Bosnian friends expect the British drivers to carry spare windscreens

They weren’t my friends, they just were some people on the road. And you never know, I have a big “glass” sign on my lorry - maybe they expected? :wink: If they would be in need of 6 metre long wired glass beam, I think I could help them :grimacing:

  1. Why didnt they phone their boss to arrange a new windscreen/or even use their laptop, its always located on top of the dashboard, and is always switched on

I suppose, that it was insurance question. In many countries insurance companies would not pay damages unless there will be police report from the place of accident…

  1. British drivers are professional, and yes we do know the rules of every country we drive through, we ask other drivers, or look it up, and we invariably speak at least 2 languages…French//German.

Do you really believe in that? I dare to tell, that British drivers are people and as every other nation they are perfect professionals and some morons among them. Two of these second ones were recently driving for my company - you should see results of that…

We would happily help anyone whos in trouble, but as the Eastern Bloc companies are beginning to be our enemies, by stealing our work, i`m afraid that if they get in trouble, they are on their own, till another one comes along,
funny how you dont see one for ages, then 3 come along at once.

I think that in international transport competition is fair, so no-one stealing no-ones jobs. They are just cheaper, that’s all. You can’t earn 600 pounds per week AND be cheapest.

I admire you orys for at least speaking our language, and contributing to this site, and joining in the debates, we are not racist to people with the same colour as us (maybe i speak for myself) except for those who get on buses/trains/aircraft with a rucksack, and a chequered scarf, sweating profusely, looks nervous, and has a detonator in his hands…

Hehe :slight_smile: I am racist to them as well. And I hate nazis :wink:


Thanks trux for informations!

del949:
Not wanting to sound rascist, but interested in a different viewpoint.
■■■■■■ = Gypsies= Romanies=Romanians, or so I assume.
(I know that ■■■■■■ is a derogatory term for predominantley Irish gypsies but assume that they originate from Romanies)

So, how do people from Poland, Slovakia etc view Gypsies?
Are they as distrusted there as much as here?

I honestly have no intention of offending anyone here, just a genuine question, so please no offensive comments.

I see your point. I must tell you, that I won’t stop for gypsies in Poland. They used to park in the ditch in some rural roads and when you stop for them as they look to need help, they clean up your van… I seen that once. You will be amazed how much you can fit in old fiat tipo when there are 7 people inside already… (mostly kids).

So that’s another point what I haven’t thinked about… Stereotype of Eastern Europenians here…

jacqueline:
:smiley: Orys,
Oh dear, now you are just taking the [zb]. You have been rumbled. Game over. Playing stupid for the purpose of a wind-up JUST to get attention. Clever…not. :laughing:

Everyone is measuring with his own measure.

I am asking questions, maybe sometimes they sound controversial (altough it wasn’t my goal) but unexpected result is that it’s help me to understand your society much better then some other subjects. You would never show me this side of you when we will talk about engines or gearboxes…

Rob K:
Are you still here? :unamused:

It’s about time you packed your bags and went back where you came from…

Maybe that will suprise you, but I was worked. And no, I have no laptop on my lorry, even turned off :wink:

milodon:

orys:
ffs, 95% of polish drivers don’t know a word in any other language, so get over it

and while you’re at it, learn the meaning of the word racism

95% of turckers older then 30 speaks russian, as it was mandatory in Poland in old times.

As for younger - I think that vast majority speaks some language. We have no choice, as polish isn’t one of world language…

I want to apologize - I don’t wanted to set up racism flame here. I was honestly wondering why no-one stopped. If I wrote this an agressive way that’s only becouse I have no feeling of what is allowed when in english language.

Sorry for not responding - I wasn’t at home. Now I did everything overdue.

I see they are more reasons then I thought: bad opinion about EE, safety, treating them as “enemies” in business - that can explain why people stopped for me, when I had troubles (but I was driving british lorry).

orys:
I want to apologize - I don’t wanted to set up racism flame here. I was honestly wondering why no-one stopped. If I wrote this an agressive way that’s only becouse I have no feeling of what is allowed when in english language.

Sorry for not responding - I wasn’t at home. Now I did everything overdue.

I see they are more reasons then I thought: bad opinion about EE, safety, treating them as “enemies” in business - that can explain why people stopped for me, when I had troubles (but I was driving british lorry).

ORYS - Unfortunately the British governments policy of ‘come one, come all’ has built up a resentment towards all foreign workers and that is a real shame.

Any sensible government not in the pay of ‘big business’ would have taken a more intelligent stance on the opening of the nations labour market. The man in the street is now showing his resentment towards the people who have come here to work, when really, they should be calling the government to account.

There will be a change of government at the next election, but all that will happen is a change of faces and a few policies will be introduced, to give the impression they are earning their salaries and making an effort. The British people are mug enough to fall for it each and every time.

Unfortunately, most British people vote for the party the newspapers tell them to, at least it seems that way. A party that would make a real difference is vilified at every turn and believing the propaganda in the media, the people keep on voting for the same tired old parties.

Governments have always been good at diverting the blame from themselves, and they have always been good at making people hate others for their own filthy political ends. That is how our soldiers end up fighting dirty wars in countries we have no business being in, whilst the politicians strut and posture on the world stage.

We have always been friendly and hospitable in this country, but due to this country’s immigration and human rights policies, we are seen by many migrants as mugs, to be taken for as much as possible. People are getting fed up with it but at the end of the day they only have themselves to blame.

All they need to do is vote for a party that will actually make real changes and things will genuinely improve. At the moment, the British people are nothing but turkeys voting for Christmas, time after time.

But isn’t it as well, that newspapers talking people, that Eastern Europeans are bad? As when I speak with people, they often complaining how bad they (we) are for the economy, but when they speak their own opinion usually have nothing against them (us). And I read in many papers (not only british one) that altough much more people have now to compete with them (us) for overall economy that was a big boost and average Brit gained on that…

Even France is now opened for Poles, altough they told that it won’t be before 2009 or 2011… They seen what that did to your economy and now want to do the same…

In general do understand that it’s fragile question, but try to understand my position as well : when 99% of trucknet write “it’s raining” it’s just a fact, but when I will write “it’s raining” I’ll get 20 answers like “if you don’t like our wheather, get lost to your stupid country” :wink:

And I consider trucknet as a good source to know more about you all - to speak about trucks I can use forums in my native language… So please forgive me, that I don’t talking only about gearboxes and motorways…

ORYS - The newspapers, especially the ‘red tops’ exist by appealing to the lowest denominator. They inflame puiblic opinion then stand to one side tutting. They also tend to lump eastern Europeans together in one great mass, when each nation is different. It is as stupid as lumping all western European nations together as one entity.

You will always get people making smart-arse comments if you express an opinion as a foreigner, it is the same everywhere. I have lived and worked in the Soviet Union, Russia and Iceland, so I can vouch for that fact. People are people wherever you go, most are decent but some are sociopaths or just unfriendly by nature.

Most people who whine about the current situation don’t do anything about it. Given an election they keep voting either New Labour or Conservative, or Liberal if they really want to make the situation even worse. Then they moan about nothing changing and the country going to the dogs.

People have votes and can use them, but for some reason they keep voting for more of the same old crap, and then whine about it when they get it. It is something very weird that I can never understand … I think it would take a psychiatrist to do that.

I think you got the same problem what we have in Poland - people don’t believe, that their vote can change anything. In Poland less then 50% is going for elections at all…

You’re right - people are people. But you’re right too, when you pointed that each nation is different.

I think one of british characteristic is that many brits unable to copy with someone who criticize anything - that can be due to historical factors, as your nation was used to rule the world (or at last this part, what british people care about)…

Every nation have som characteristic - Poles, for example, always complain about something.

I remember when I moved to Scotland it took me some time to being used to, that when you ask me “how are you” you don’t expect me to explain what happened from last time, when we seen each other.

In Poland if you ask somebody “how are you” you must be ready to listen “Oh, generally I am OK, I had a bit cold last week, but now I am al right. I can’t stand this stupid politician, who gave a speech last night in TV, so I throwed my pilot in it and now I must buy a new one. But I can’t as my car broke down and I must take it to the garage. My neighbour held a noisy party last night, so I haven’t slept very well and, last but not least, Mietek borrowed my CD’s from me and now he’s gone to other city and I can’t get it back from him. And how are you?” :wink:

I was suprised, that people ask me how am I, and then when I am trying to tell them, they not listening :wink:

So as you can see - every nation is different. But people, people are the same everywhere :wink:

Thanks for your smart comments!

orys or should that be Horace?:
I was driving northbound on A1(M) today just after M62 (with slag heaps of coal on the right)

davepenn54:
whatever it was you were looking at it wasn’t slag heaps, there are none at all around that area anymore. A Tory Prime Minister made well sure of that

He’s probably referring to the coal stockpiles for Ferrybridge power station Dave. I have to disagree with you regarding Mrs T though, she was magic. Back in the Eighties what were the alternatives Kinnock, Foot, Owen & Steel? God give me strength.

Horace:
they tried to stop some vehicle for over 20 minutes and no-one stopped

He then went on to say…

walking along motorway is nor legal, nor safe…

Well you’ve just answered your question you muppet. Which driver in their right mind would risk their life or points on their licence for a broken down vehicle on a well-patrolled motorway?

Wheel Nut’s right, you are a wind-up merchant. ■■■ & Travel Horace!!

I will do a bit to help someone who needs help. And lot of people will do the same to me, I know that. There is plenty of BRITISH drivers, who stopped for me when I needed help (or even not, but they thinked, that I do). Only difference is that I had british plates, and that’s why this question is. You obviously even don’t catched that what I am asking for. So who is the muppet here?

(personally, i even like the muppets. If I have to be one, can I be The Animal?

But only if you will become her:
)

I pasted another image. I guess that previous one was removed due to ■■■■■■. I even didn’t noticed that, it was just first miss piggy picture from google

As for the second part:

To stop on the shoulder with the lorry is not as much danger as walk, becouse if you stopped, you are in 19 tons vehicle and if you are on foot you have nothing to protect you. So do you think it’s smarter to go for walk then to stay in the lorry?

orys:
In general do understand that it’s fragile question, but try to understand my position as well : when 99% of trucknet write “it’s raining” it’s just a fact, but when I will write “it’s raining” I’ll get 20 answers like “if you don’t like our wheather, get lost to your stupid country” :wink:

:smiley: yep, you’re getting there; jsut about to get the message right :smiley:
just do not ask why. you don’t question chinese way cooking, do yo? so don’t question english way of being proud of their weather.

orys:
I was suprised, that people ask me how am I, and then when I am trying to tell them, they not listening

Well, you still have to learn though :wink: If an english- or scotch- or welshman asks you “how are you?” or “are you all right?” it actually means not a lot more than “hello”. Your reply is expected to be “all right” or, at most, “I’m fine, thanks, yourself?” which will be answered “OK” or " not too bad" and then you both carry on going own way.
However, “nice day, isn’t it?” actually means “let’s have a chat”

HomoFaber:
:smiley: yep, you’re getting there; jsut about to get the message right :smiley:
just do not ask why. you don’t question chinese way cooking, do yo? so don’t question english way of being proud of their weather.

As for chinese food: I used to delivery chinese food for two days (it was an agency job). I seen about 35 kitchens. I havent touched any chinese food since. And it was winter 2006…
:unamused:

Here we go, now the Chinese are going to get it…where will it end :unamused:

Ok. I am shut up now :grimacing:

And weather is very nice as well :wink:

orys:
personally, i even like the muppets. If I have to be one, can I be The Animal?

No, you can’t be Animal.
That’s already been taken.

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