idiotukdriversexposed.com/hg … -motorway/ Think it maybe a foreign wagon? 
A second earlier and that car could have hit the driver of the broke down vehicle 
It didn’t look like a foreign motor to me, he/she kind of hesitated as they changed lane, it was almost as if they’d seen the car but still went ahead with the lane change, was lucky the person on the hard shoulder didn’t get taken out as well
Not blaming the car for this incident but why do car drivers constantly hang around the sides of hgv’s, it’s the last place I want to be when I’m in my car
selby newcomer:
Not blaming the car for this incident but why do car drivers constantly hang around the sides of hgv’s, it’s the last place I want to be when I’m in my car
Not blame.But all so predictable bearing in mind that the driver of the car in lane 3 at 0.15 seems to have moved over to lane 4 to allow the car in lane 2 to move to lane 3 at that point.It’s my guess the driver of the truck saw that and took the rest for granted and maybe didn’t even notice clipping the rear nearside corner of the car with the front offside corner of the truck.
As for the question how do you rule out crash for cash in that case. 
Looking ahead in lane 2 there looks to be an identical wagon and trailer
nick2008:
Looking ahead in lane 2 there looks to be an identical wagon and trailer
They look more like foreign artic tilts stripped to flats to me.While LHD would also explain the typical side swipe.
You know who else left the scene the guy filming! Decent people would have stopped to make sure the poor person isn’t having a bloody heart attack after that.
selby newcomer:
Not blaming the car for this incident but why do car drivers constantly hang around the sides of hgv’s, it’s the last place I want to be when I’m in my car
Because he/she was keeping a safe distance from the car in front,simple.
xichrisxi:
selby newcomer:
Not blaming the car for this incident but why do car drivers constantly hang around the sides of hgv’s, it’s the last place I want to be when I’m in my carBecause he/she was keeping a safe distance from the car in front,simple.
Which he could have done just by hanging back an extra couple of feet and he would have been clear of the trailer too. While the blame lies with the lorry driver the amount of cars who sit in that position when you have your indicator on is unreal it is about time motorway driving was made part of the test. The difference in standards on the motorways between the UK and Europe is really great with the UK’s being far lower
xichrisxi:
selby newcomer:
Not blaming the car for this incident but why do car drivers constantly hang around the sides of hgv’s, it’s the last place I want to be when I’m in my carBecause he/she was keeping a safe distance from the car in front,simple.
You don’t have to hang around the side of an artic to leave a safe distance from the car in front
selby newcomer:
xichrisxi:
selby newcomer:
Not blaming the car for this incident but why do car drivers constantly hang around the sides of hgv’s, it’s the last place I want to be when I’m in my carBecause he/she was keeping a safe distance from the car in front,simple.
You don’t have to hang around the side of an artic to leave a safe distance from the car in front
Which also leaves the question why not use lane 3 when the car at 0.15 moved over to lane 4 ?.
selby newcomer:
xichrisxi:
selby newcomer:
Not blaming the car for this incident but why do car drivers constantly hang around the sides of hgv’s, it’s the last place I want to be when I’m in my carBecause he/she was keeping a safe distance from the car in front,simple.
You don’t have to hang around the side of an artic to leave a safe distance from the car in front
Yes you do if the car in front is travelling at a continuous speed too.
xichrisxi:
selby newcomer:
xichrisxi:
selby newcomer:
Not blaming the car for this incident but why do car drivers constantly hang around the sides of hgv’s, it’s the last place I want to be when I’m in my carBecause he/she was keeping a safe distance from the car in front,simple.
You don’t have to hang around the side of an artic to leave a safe distance from the car in front
Yes you do if the car in front is travelling at a continuous speed too.
No you don’t if you should be anticipating and cooperating with a possible lane change by traffic in lane 1 to clear an obstruction on the hard shoulder or even just to avoid a potential collision.At which point it’s like a junction IE don’t enter unless your exit is clear.
xichrisxi:
selby newcomer:
xichrisxi:
selby newcomer:
Not blaming the car for this incident but why do car drivers constantly hang around the sides of hgv’s, it’s the last place I want to be when I’m in my carBecause he/she was keeping a safe distance from the car in front,simple.
You don’t have to hang around the side of an artic to leave a safe distance from the car in front
Yes you do if the car in front is travelling at a continuous speed too.
ok mate crack on, you obviously know better, keep hanging around the side of them left hookers and you’ll end up like the fella in the video 
Via Carryfast.
No you don’t if you should be anticipating and cooperating with a possible lane change by traffic in lane 1 to clear an obstruction on the hard shoulder or even just to avoid a potential collision.At which point it’s like a junction IE don’t enter unless your exit is clear.
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That needs explaining to some so called “professional” hgv drivers as well!!
selby newcomer:
ok mate crack on, you obviously know better, keep hanging around the side of them left hookers and you’ll end up like the fella in the video
He was “hanging around” for 10 seconds,they speed camera markings on the ground and the flow of traffic in each lane suggests the average speed cameras were active too,he hardly sat there for 5 mins did he!!
The HGV puts his indicator on @ 7 secs the car is nowhere near his blind spot it just beyond level with the back of his trailer,the HGV driver presuming he checked his mirrors when he indicated should of seen the Clio at that point,@20 seconds the HGV begins to move across into the middle lane any “professional” driver would of wanted to know where the Clio had gone before proceeding to change lane given that when he initially put on his indicator the Clio was at the side of him.
Maybe it’s just me I dunno…maybe I expect too much when seemingly all it would of took was a little bit of observation from the HGV driver to avoid the accident happening,maybe the HGV driver was trying to use his vehicle as a weapon and try and force the Clio driver out of the way in the hope that the Clio driver would instantly change lanes for him although it clearly shows that there was also a car in the outside lane.
Also notice how the transit van has to anchor up when the HGV change lane in front of him…there are those with a HGV licence that seem to think it’s a given right to bully your way around the roads because you have a larger vehicle,there is no defence at all for the HGV driver,we can’t keep blaming everyone else when “one of our own” drop a bollock and cause an accident.
Just because I don’t automatically jump in the “it can’t be the HGV drivers fault” bandwagon like some on here regardless of what happened doesn’t mean I know it all,it just means I make my own decisions of a subject by looking at the evidence.
xichrisxi:
selby newcomer:
ok mate crack on, you obviously know better, keep hanging around the side of them left hookers and you’ll end up like the fella in the videoHe was “hanging around” for 10 seconds,they speed camera markings on the ground and the flow of traffic in each lane suggests the average speed cameras were active too,he hardly sat there for 5 mins did he!!
The HGV puts his indicator on @ 7 secs the car is nowhere near his blind spot it just beyond level with the back of his trailer,the HGV driver presuming he checked his mirrors when he indicated should of seen the Clio at that point,@20 seconds the HGV begins to move across into the middle lane any “professional” driver would of wanted to know where the Clio had gone before proceeding to change lane given that when he initially put on his indicator the Clio was at the side of him.
Maybe it’s just me I dunno…maybe I expect too much when seemingly all it would of took was a little bit of observation from the HGV driver to avoid the accident happening,maybe the HGV driver was trying to use his vehicle as a weapon and try and force the Clio driver out of the way in the hope that the Clio driver would instantly change lanes for him although it clearly shows that there was also a car in the outside lane.
Also notice how the transit van has to anchor up when the HGV change lane in front of him…there are those with a HGV licence that seem to think it’s a given right to bully your way around the roads because you have a larger vehicle,there is no defence at all for the HGV driver,we can’t keep blaming everyone else when “one of our own” drop a bollock and cause an accident.
Just because I don’t automatically jump in the “it can’t be the HGV drivers fault” bandwagon like some on here regardless of what happened doesn’t mean I know it all,it just means I make my own decisions of a subject by looking at the evidence.
‘The evidence’ suggests maybe an understandable fixation on the obstruction on the hard shoulder and attendant potential hazards regards same.In which case I’m guessing you’re another of those who would have held your course in lane 2 rather than move over into lane 3 at 0.15,using the gap which the driver in lane 3 had made for you by moving into lane 4.
In which case yes maybe inconsiderate use of mirrors resulting in a dodgy lane change…But in mitigation possibly explained by the potentially more important issue of what’s happening on the hard shoulder.While no mitigation for the zb wit muppet in lane 2 who obviously wasn’t using the same level of anticipation as the driver in lane 3.
Carryfast:
xichrisxi:
selby newcomer:
ok mate crack on, you obviously know better, keep hanging around the side of them left hookers and you’ll end up like the fella in the videoHe was “hanging around” for 10 seconds,they speed camera markings on the ground and the flow of traffic in each lane suggests the average speed cameras were active too,he hardly sat there for 5 mins did he!!
The HGV puts his indicator on @ 7 secs the car is nowhere near his blind spot it just beyond level with the back of his trailer,the HGV driver presuming he checked his mirrors when he indicated should of seen the Clio at that point,@20 seconds the HGV begins to move across into the middle lane any “professional” driver would of wanted to know where the Clio had gone before proceeding to change lane given that when he initially put on his indicator the Clio was at the side of him.
Maybe it’s just me I dunno…maybe I expect too much when seemingly all it would of took was a little bit of observation from the HGV driver to avoid the accident happening,maybe the HGV driver was trying to use his vehicle as a weapon and try and force the Clio driver out of the way in the hope that the Clio driver would instantly change lanes for him although it clearly shows that there was also a car in the outside lane.
Also notice how the transit van has to anchor up when the HGV change lane in front of him…there are those with a HGV licence that seem to think it’s a given right to bully your way around the roads because you have a larger vehicle,there is no defence at all for the HGV driver,we can’t keep blaming everyone else when “one of our own” drop a bollock and cause an accident.
Just because I don’t automatically jump in the “it can’t be the HGV drivers fault” bandwagon like some on here regardless of what happened doesn’t mean I know it all,it just means I make my own decisions of a subject by looking at the evidence.‘The evidence’ suggests maybe an understandable fixation on the obstruction on the hard shoulder and attendant potential hazards regards same.In which case I’m guessing you’re another of those who would have held your course in lane 2 rather than move over into lane 3 at 0.15,using the gap which the driver in lane 3 had made for you by moving into lane 4.
In which case yes maybe inconsiderate use of mirrors resulting in a dodgy lane change…But in mitigation possibly explained by the potentially more important issue of what’s happening on the hard shoulder.While no mitigation for the zb wit muppet in lane 2 who obviously wasn’t using the same level of anticipation as the driver in lane 3.
He moved out to overtake the wagon in front of him,I doubt he even saw the obstruction on the hard shoulder look at he the pictures he’s hardly a wagons length behind the wagon in front going off the shadows cast on the hard shoulder,also I very much doubt the Clio driver ever had sight of the obstruction on the hard shoulder after all aswell as the flatbed there was another HGV in front of that on the near side lane…
Whichever way you look at it all the flatbed driver had to do was to wait another 2 secs and everyone could of carried on their merry way unfortunately only the flatbed driver was able to do so,carry on his merry way thy is.
I do wonder if the Clio driver was one, of many, who have a pathological fear of the outside lane. Using the outside line would be a lot more pleasant than that brown trouser moment up the embankment.
xichrisxi:
He moved out to overtake the wagon in front of him,I doubt he even saw the obstruction on the hard shoulder look at he the pictures he’s hardly a wagons length behind the wagon in front going off the shadows cast on the hard shoulder,also I very much doubt the Clio driver ever had sight of the obstruction on the hard shoulder
Whichever way you look at it all the flatbed driver had to do was to wait another 2 secs and everyone could of carried on their merry way unfortunately only the flatbed driver was able to do so,carry on his merry way thy is.
The attempted lane change by the truck starts at 0.08.At which point the distance to the vehicle ahead in lane 1 isn’t clear at all.Although there’s no reason to think that the car on the hard shoulder wouldn’t have been visible at that point especially in the case of LHD.What is clear is that there was no reason as to why the driver of the car involved couldn’t have moved into lane 3 at 0.15.Which I’m guessing is what the truck driver had naively taken for granted.
What is also obviously clear in this case is a lack of co operation and general rule of move to lane 2 in the event of hazards on the hard shoulder,which is an accident waiting to happen.