How much more beneficial is it to use agency drivers rather than employing a driver direct? When I say beneficial I am of course referring to the financial aspect.
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Spam-Javelin:
How much more beneficial is it to use agency drivers rather than employing a driver direct? When I say beneficial I am of course referring to the financial aspect.Ta
no chance, sooner park it up
burnley-si:
no chance, sooner park it up
Same as that.
burnley-si:
Spam-Javelin:
How much more beneficial is it to use agency drivers rather than employing a driver direct? When I say beneficial I am of course referring to the financial aspect.Ta
no chance, sooner park it up
Forget all the negatives about agency drivers, I actually believe most agency drivers are decent blokes just fed up of getting messed around and working for peanuts. My question was purely based on the financial benefit to it and how much difference it makes.
I guess my question should have been. If you know someone that wants a job and he/she is the only driver you would trust in your unit, how much better off would you be if you arranged for him to work for you via an agency rather than on your books?
Spam-Javelin:
I guess my question should have been. If you know someone that wants a job and he/she is the only driver you would trust in your unit, how much better off would you be if you arranged for him to work for you via an agency rather than on your books?
I think very few small operators would us an agency to be honest, most would prob use a trusted driver on a cas /SE basis.
Spam-Javelin:
I guess my question should have been. If you know someone that wants a job and he/she is the only driver you would trust in your unit, how much better off would you be if you arranged for him to work for you via an agency rather than on your books?
Surely this has to be a joke.
You come onto a drivers forum and appear to be asking the best way to shaft a driver 
If you trust him/her put them on the books ffs, if you really don’t want to put them on the books ask him to go self employed and pay him a pound an hour less than you would pay a so called good agency.
Spam-Javelin:
I guess my question should have been. If you know someone that wants a job and he/she is the only driver you would trust in your unit, how much better off would you be if you arranged for him to work for you via an agency rather than on your books?
How could you be better off employing a driver through an agency, rather than direct?
tachograph:
Spam-Javelin:
I guess my question should have been. If you know someone that wants a job and he/she is the only driver you would trust in your unit, how much better off would you be if you arranged for him to work for you via an agency rather than on your books?Surely this has to be a joke.
You come onto a drivers forum and appear to be asking the best way to shaft a driver
If you trust him/her put them on the books ffs, if you really don’t want to put them on the books ask him to go self employed and pay him a pound an hour less than you would pay a so called good agency.
Less of the hostilities please!!!
I am not “shafting” a driver as you put it. I am asking a simple question regarding the difference in cost between the two. If you have nothing constructive to add to the table please DO NOT COMMENT!
Spam-Javelin:
tachograph:
Spam-Javelin:
I guess my question should have been. If you know someone that wants a job and he/she is the only driver you would trust in your unit, how much better off would you be if you arranged for him to work for you via an agency rather than on your books?Surely this has to be a joke.
You come onto a drivers forum and appear to be asking the best way to shaft a driver
If you trust him/her put them on the books ffs, if you really don’t want to put them on the books ask him to go self employed and pay him a pound an hour less than you would pay a so called good agency.
Less of the hostilities please!!!
I am not “shafting” a driver as you put it. I am asking a simple question regarding the difference in cost between the two. If you have nothing constructive to add to the table please DO NOT COMMENT!
I think the point tachograph made was very constructive
It may not fit in with your thinking, but it is a very valid point 
Personally I think agencies have done more to damage job security and driver’s wages than any other thing in the industry and like the other owner drivers on here, I would park a lorry rather than give an agency an inflated price so they can take a percentage of somebody’s wages 
newmercman:
Spam-Javelin:
tachograph:
Spam-Javelin:
I guess my question should have been. If you know someone that wants a job and he/she is the only driver you would trust in your unit, how much better off would you be if you arranged for him to work for you via an agency rather than on your books?Surely this has to be a joke.
You come onto a drivers forum and appear to be asking the best way to shaft a driver
If you trust him/her put them on the books ffs, if you really don’t want to put them on the books ask him to go self employed and pay him a pound an hour less than you would pay a so called good agency.
Less of the hostilities please!!!
I am not “shafting” a driver as you put it. I am asking a simple question regarding the difference in cost between the two. If you have nothing constructive to add to the table please DO NOT COMMENT!
I think the point tachograph made was very constructive
It may not fit in with your thinking, but it is a very valid point
Personally I think agencies have done more to damage job security and driver’s wages than any other thing in the industry and like the other owner drivers on here, I would park a lorry rather than give an agency an inflated price so they can take a percentage of somebody’s wages
My question is purely a financial based question, not what’s good or bad about agencies. Still waiting for an answer.
Well then you’ve answered your own question
As you will also want a cut for the service you provide, an agency will always be more expensive than dealing directly with the same driver yourself 
newmercman:
Well then you’ve answered your own questionAs you will also want a cut for the service you provide, an agency will always be more expensive than dealing directly with the same driver yourself
I currently have an O Licence application in as speak for my own unit so no I do not want a cut for any service I provide. When did we start talking in riddles on this forum? Can someone please talk facts and figures.
Spam-Javelin:
How much more beneficial is it to use agency drivers rather than employing a driver direct? When I say beneficial I am of course referring to the financial aspect.Ta
WELL LOOKING AT YOUR OTHER POSTS …
USING AN AGENCY WILL COST YOU MORE SIMPLES
Spam-Javelin:
newmercman:
Well then you’ve answered your own questionAs you will also want a cut for the service you provide, an agency will always be more expensive than dealing directly with the same driver yourself
I currently have an O Licence application in as speak for my own unit so no I do not want a cut for any service I provide. When did we start talking in riddles on this forum? Can someone please talk facts and figures.
Where’s the riddle? If you deal directly with a driver you pay whatever you decide is a fair rate, if you add an agency into the mix they will negotiate a rate and then add their commission on top, so using an agency will cost you more… it ain’t rocket science ffs 
newmercman:
Spam-Javelin:
newmercman:
Well then you’ve answered your own questionAs you will also want a cut for the service you provide, an agency will always be more expensive than dealing directly with the same driver yourself
I currently have an O Licence application in as speak for my own unit so no I do not want a cut for any service I provide. When did we start talking in riddles on this forum? Can someone please talk facts and figures.
Where’s the riddle? If you deal directly with a driver you pay whatever you decide is a fair rate, if you add an agency into the mix they will negotiate a rate and then add their commission on top, so using an agency will cost you more… it ain’t rocket science ffs
As a moderator of this forum should you be using the acronym FFS? This forum is seriously starting to bug me recently, looking for sound advice with facts and figures and you get jumped up numpties putting their 2 pence in. A negotiated rate is just that “negotiated” and I am sure it is far less costly than actually putting someone on your books.
If I am wrong then I am wrong but that’s the whole point of my post to find facts and figures.
Spam-Javelin:
If I am wrong then I am wrong but that’s the whole point of my post to find facts and figures.
But that’s not what you asked …
its far cheaper to employ someone on casual (cash in hand) or Self Employed than using an agency.
How much clearer do you want it…
nick2008:
Spam-Javelin:
If I am wrong then I am wrong but that’s the whole point of my post to find facts and figures.But that’s not what you asked …
its far cheaper to employ someone on casual (cash in hand) or Self Employed than using an agency.
How much clearer do you want it…
I do not and will not pay anyone cash in hand or on a self employed basis. I want to know the difference between paying an agency or employing someone the proper way! This is really a very straight forward question. It requires an answer other than “Park her up before I use agency” Seriously guys if you have never used agency drivers and employed some and do not have a scoobys on the financial differences overall then please do not waste my time.
nick2008:
Spam-Javelin:
If I am wrong then I am wrong but that’s the whole point of my post to find facts and figures.But that’s not what you asked …
its far cheaper to employ someone on casual (cash in hand) or Self Employed than using an agency.
How much clearer do you want it…
Exactly!!!
I am subject to the same rules as everyone else, the autocensor did not have a problem with my ffs, just as it doesn’t have a problem with anybody else’s, so it is within the rules.
Also in the rules is the ability to answer any questions that are asked as I and any member see fit, as long as we remain within the rules, so if you only wish to see answers that you want to see, maybe you would be better off asking your questions to a mirror