Hi ,hoping to do euro work after seven years out of the industry.
What is the norm for weekly rest,ie how do you do it?
Do you do six shifts then take 24 off then 6 shifts take 45+21hrs catch up if thats right,
or can you do it a beter way?never having to do it in the past i am confused.
I would appreciate advise from any one doing euro on a regular basis,thanks.
Sorry to say but unless you already have a euro driving job promised then things are dire out there for Brits wanting to do euroland and even more so if youve never done it before AND been out of the industry for 7 years. There are a few jobs but wages are crap and not the best companies to be working for.
As for the weekend breaks that will all depend on your work load, as long as you remember you must take a 45 hr break every other week you will be ok.
Paul
stevie p:
Hi ,hoping to do euro work after seven years out of the industry.
What is the norm for weekly rest,ie how do you do it?
Do you do six shifts then take 24 off then 6 shifts take 45+21hrs catch up if thats right,
or can you do it a beter way?never having to do it in the past i am confused.
I would appreciate advise from any one doing euro on a regular basis,thanks.
that’s about sums it up.
however, there are still some countries that you can get away with a bit of this and that, so you can still take a 24 off whilst getting your drops done.
Paul:
Sorry to say but unless you already have a euro driving job promised then things are dire out there for Brits wanting to do euroland and even more so if youve never done it before AND been out of the industry for 7 years. There are a few jobs but wages are crap and not the best companies to be working for.
As for the weekend breaks that will all depend on your work load, as long as you remember you must take a 45 hr break every other week you will be ok.Paul
Paul is right in his second sentence re: jobs at crap wages … you will get a start for certain Irish companies who I’d better not name on here! But you would maybe have to do a bit of ‘local’ first then maybe some turnarounds in England, that’s taking a trailer for some driver who cannot make it back & there is a load to go out again in another trailer, then you would tip the one you picked up & maybe load it, etc. All this before you progressed on to the European stuff.
Just be aware though that although most Irish companies have nice plant, It’s money you want at the end of the week, not the sound of a V8 ringing in your ears when you are discussing the Mortgage Arrears!
stevie p:
Hi ,hoping to do euro work after seven years out of the industry.
What is the norm for weekly rest,ie how do you do it?
Do you do six shifts then take 24 off then 6 shifts take 45+21hrs catch up if thats right,
or can you do it a beter way?never having to do it in the past i am confused.
I would appreciate advise from any one doing euro on a regular basis,thanks.
If you shorten one Weekendbreak you could compensate the missing Hour by adding them to a Daily Break,if im not wrong.
Immigrant:
If you shorten one Weekendbreak you could compensate the missing Hour by adding them to a Daily Break,if im not wrong.
Yes, you can add the reduction to any break period of 9 hours, so if you reduced your weekend break to 41 hours, you could take 13 hours off on Monday night and you will have made the compensation.
Harry Monk:
Immigrant:
If you shorten one Weekendbreak you could compensate the missing Hour by adding them to a Daily Break,if im not wrong.Yes, you can add the reduction to any break period of 9 hours, so if you reduced your weekend break to 41 hours, you could take 13 hours off on Monday night and you will have made the compensation.
but dont forget that even though you have taken 13 off this will still count as one of your three reductions between weekly rest periods
green456:
but dont forget that even though you have taken 13 off this will still count as one of your three reductions between weekly rest periods
no it won’t.
limeyphil:
green456:
but dont forget that even though you have taken 13 off this will still count as one of your three reductions between weekly rest periodsno it won’t.
Not if you fit 11 of that 13 into 24 hours it wont affect anything, lets have an easy day.
It used to be called cancelling
limeyphil:
green456:
but dont forget that even though you have taken 13 off this will still count as one of your three reductions between weekly rest periodsno it won’t.
Yeah, it will do. Thirteen hour daily rest of which 4 hours were compensation for a reduced weekly rest leaves a reduced daily rest of 9 hours.
Wheel Nut:
limeyphil:
green456:
but dont forget that even though you have taken 13 off this will still count as one of your three reductions between weekly rest periodsno it won’t.
Not if you fit 11 of that 13 into 24 hours it wont affect anything, lets have an easy day.
It will. Four hours compensation and if there is 11 hours rest in the 24 hour period and 2 hours out with then the 11 hours within is made up of of 9 hours plus 2 hours compensation and that’s a reduced daily rest.
The hours are added onto a rest period, not included in it.
limeyphil:
green456:
but dont forget that even though you have taken 13 off this will still count as one of your three reductions between weekly rest periodsno it won’t.
limeyphill and Wheel Nut… Two more people who display they are in dire need of going on a Driver CPC course despite saying its a load of bollox that can’t teach them anything.
Conor:
limeyphil:
green456:
but dont forget that even though you have taken 13 off this will still count as one of your three reductions between weekly rest periodsno it won’t.
limeyphill…someone else who is in dire need of going on a Driver CPC course.
no i’m not. the reply’s above are not correct. some have read the legislation, and misinterpreted it.
the rules state that a shortfall has to be added to a minimum daily rest of 9 hours. and that’s it. none of the extra stuff at all.
Back to the OP, if you want a euro job, UNLESS you land on your feet in a good number then you will not be sticking to 56 hours a week/ 90 hours a fortnight and the weekly rest nightmares (did we decide if you could take a 45 hour rest in the truck or not?)
All that talk of daily/weekend rest, reduced rest and whatever is way above my head. I admit that i don’t have a clue about it. Kind of makes me glad i only do local work. Mon-Fri, so i know i get plenty of weekend rest. And i’m lucky if i do 4h 30m driving in a 10hr shift so i never need to worry about going over my 90hrs per fortnight or whatever. All i really need to worry about is getting my 45min break in after 6hrs on duty. It sounds like you need a philidelphia lawyer sat next to you to keep you compliant with the hours law. Hats off to you who do it though, but its not for me. Think ill just stick to my local multi drop on pallet network for now. Seems alot less stressful somehow.
the jobs changed massively in the time youve been away buddy all euro works now done by eastern european bogof drivers.ten years ago i and many other drivers thought uk work beneath us and not worth bothering with,we were continental only drivers.Nobody nowadays is going to want to pay us a proper wage when they can get a double man team running getting less than half of what we"d want between them
limeyphil:
Conor:
limeyphil:
green456:
but dont forget that even though you have taken 13 off this will still count as one of your three reductions between weekly rest periodsno it won’t.
limeyphill…someone else who is in dire need of going on a Driver CPC course.
no i’m not. the reply’s above are not correct. some have read the legislation, and misinterpreted it.
the rules state that a shortfall has to be added to a minimum daily rest of 9 hours. and that’s it. none of the extra stuff at all.
Yes, but adding the hours required for compensation to a reduced rest of 9 hours does not turn that reduced rest into a full rest, it’s still a reduced rest with compensation added. The clue is in the word added.
Harry Monk:
Immigrant:
If you shorten one Weekendbreak you could compensate the missing Hour by adding them to a Daily Break,if im not wrong.Yes, you can add the reduction to any break period of 9 hours, so if you reduced your weekend break to 41 hours, you could take 13 hours off on Monday night and you will have made the compensation.
Yes Conor, you are right. I took this post by immigrant as an example; You can compensate the missing hour(s) by adding them to a daily (rest) My point being that you do not have to wait until taking another weekly rest period to compensate.
I believe Harry used 13 as an example. I should have written 15 hours and that we used to call it cancelling.
Before you get all self righteous, you should look back over most of your posts through the years and decide who is in more need of driver hours training.
Article 8
A driver shall take daily and weekly rest periods.
Within each period of 24 hours after the end of the
previous daily rest period or weekly rest period a driver shall
have taken a new daily rest period.
If the portion of the daily rest period which falls within that
24 hour period is at least nine hours but less than 11 hours,
then the daily rest period in question shall be regarded as a
reduced daily rest period.A daily rest period may be extended to make a regular
weekly rest period or a reduced weekly rest period.
Any rest taken as compensation for a reduced weekly rest
period shall be attached to another rest period of at least nine
hours.
In Article 8 paragraph Two. I agree that would be a reduced rest period, like Harry Monks example. However it was Immigrants post I was agreeing to, that you can attach 4 hours compensation owing from a reduced weekly rest period to a full daily rest period.
This would be quite normal to achieve in Europe, you arrive at a factory to load at 16.30, they tell you to come back in the morning at 8am. That gives you a 15h 30m rest period, sufficient to compensate for last weekends shortfall whilst still keeping 3 reduced rest periods for later in the week if necessary
Article 8 paragraph 2. All sounds a bit Dot Cotton
so if youre going to add a couple of hours payback to a daily rest,from a short weekend rest does it all have to fit in a 24 hour daily cycle? or just the daily rest bit?
sorry but im confused now too