rob22888:
It has to be an all day ban or not at all.
No HGV’s (over 7.5T) within the city between 7am & 7pm Mon-Fri (hours debatable). Create a culture whereby people know that if they want a HGV delivery in London city centre is has to be early morning, later on or at the weekend. If you must have your delivery inside the hours for whatever reason, there is a permit system in place. I think it could work, making roads safer for cyclists and reducing the amount of traffic at the same time.
Don’t see why any drivers should campaign against it. No London at rush hour, bring it on
But, someone is sure going to p off the neighbours when DFS come round to deliver their new sofa at 3am. Likewise when do the bin trucks do the rounds? They are noisy enough during the day, I can just see the outcry when they are clattering about at stupid o’clock in the morning.
These ideas are ill thought through. What about the people needed to unload the trucks and stuff. Bins and other council services. Id it only goung to be central london or all of lindon?
rob22888:
It has to be an all day ban or not at all.
No HGV’s (over 7.5T) within the city between 7am & 7pm Mon-Fri (hours debatable). Create a culture whereby people know that if they want a HGV delivery in London city centre is has to be early morning, later on or at the weekend. If you must have your delivery inside the hours for whatever reason, there is a permit system in place. I think it could work, making roads safer for cyclists and reducing the amount of traffic at the same time.
Don’t see why any drivers should campaign against it. No London at rush hour, bring it on
But, someone is sure going to p off the neighbours when DFS come round to deliver their new sofa at 3am. Likewise when do the bin trucks do the rounds? They are noisy enough during the day, I can just see the outcry when they are clattering about at stupid o’clock in the morning.
From the driver’s point of view it would be a lot easier working in town at night.While assuming that the rule is ( rightly ) all about the fact that large vehicles are totally incompatible sharing the roads with cyclists then that would obviously mean that cyclists will need to be banned from all roads nationally at all times where large vehicles are in use.
That’s assuming that the whole thing isn’t really just the politicians and the cycling lobby,cynically taking advantage of cyclist casualties,to gradually introduce a scheme of restrictions,on all types of motorised vehicle use,in order to give the roads over to the cyclist cause.Where better to do that than in the communist people’s republic of London.
so you have a truck ban at times and a cycle ban at others ■■ sod that just stay out of London end of…
The fact is the cries of banning trucks because of their incompatibility with use around cyclists actually does more to shoot down the bs idea that cyclists should have the right to use the roads as and wherever they wish.Seperation is the most important point but it’s my bet that the cyclists will want that all in their favour in forcing trucks off London’s roads during the day while not wanting cyclists forced off any roads to seperate them,anywhere,at any time during the day,nationally.IE it all seems to be a selective,politically driven,one sided attack on motor vehicle users’ freedom to use the roads.While at the same time making sure that cyclists can use any road,anywhere,at any time they choose 24/7.
rob22888:
It has to be an all day ban or not at all.
No HGV’s (over 7.5T) within the city between 7am & 7pm Mon-Fri (hours debatable). Create a culture whereby people know that if they want a HGV delivery in London city centre is has to be early morning, later on or at the weekend. If you must have your delivery inside the hours for whatever reason, there is a permit system in place. I think it could work, making roads safer for cyclists and reducing the amount of traffic at the same time.
Don’t see why any drivers should campaign against it. No London at rush hour, bring it on
But, someone is sure going to p off the neighbours when DFS come round to deliver their new sofa at 3am. Likewise when do the bin trucks do the rounds? They are noisy enough during the day, I can just see the outcry when they are clattering about at stupid o’clock in the morning.
These ideas are ill thought through. What about the people needed to unload the trucks and stuff. Bins and other council services. Id it only goung to be central london or all of lindon?
You can bet that the cyclist lobby,TFL,and barmy Boris all view everywhere within the GLA borders as their ‘turf’ and the rest of the country as their’s too given the chance.Ironically the idea of a daytime truck ban in London is a win win situation in proving that cyclists and large motor traffic can’t mix while being a good idea from the point of view of drivers.
You would lose that bet, boris is not keen on banning HGV from London roads, he keeps saying he needs to look at it further, politician speak for I don’t want it but I don’t want to upset people. The fact is cyclists can ride on most roads, you don’t have to agree with it.
A regular contributor on a cycling forum I visit has the tag line: if the bicycle was invented today it would be seen as a saviour, not as a problem.
Boris may play the lovable buffoon but he isnt stupid. He knows to keep London as a top place to do business and attract tourists it needs constant regeneration and a lot of goods vehicles to service it. If you start banning things its communism and thats not Boris.
kr79:
Boris may play the lovable buffoon but he isnt stupid. He knows to keep London as a top place to do business and attract tourists it needs constant regeneration and a lot of goods vehicles to service it. If you start banning things its communism and thats not Boris.
Ironically in this case it would probably be best all round for everyone for all the commercial transport there to be done at night and off the road during the day although it would obviously create problems at the delivery and collection points.But the advantages would probably outweigh the disadvantages at least in London.
Which would then just leave one lot of commies,in the form of bus operators,still being in conflict with the cyclists being that the average cyclist is just as happy to undertake the average bus while it’s turning left.
However I think that the agenda of the cyclist lobby and TFL is all about the Communist ideology of being a load of motor vehicle hating zealots and the Tories seem no different in that regard.It seems obvious that the agenda is really all about continuing the double standards idea of unrestricted freedom of use of the roads for cyclists while at the same time imposing ever more restrictions on that in regards to motor vehicle users.
rob22888:
It has to be an all day ban or not at all.
No HGV’s (over 7.5T) within the city between 7am & 7pm Mon-Fri (hours debatable). Create a culture whereby people know that if they want a HGV delivery in London city centre is has to be early morning, later on or at the weekend. If you must have your delivery inside the hours for whatever reason, there is a permit system in place. I think it could work, making roads safer for cyclists and reducing the amount of traffic at the same time.
Don’t see why any drivers should campaign against it. No London at rush hour, bring it on
Then you get other issues that need looking at, being part of the construction industry traffic into London we are restricted as to the times we are allowed on site. I had a Kings Cross a couple of weeks ago, couldn’t get on that site until it opened at 8am and one in Chelsea where the site opened at 9am. All supposedly noise restrictions to blame.
The only way to never have to deal with cyclists or London is find a job doing something else
