roaduser66:
1 - Do you agree some cyclists run red lights when they shouldn’t?
I was the first person to mention cyclists jumping reds, look upthread. I’ve posted the research that shows how many cyclists jump reds five times now, remember when I explained it’s not a significant causal factor? You didn’t read the link, did you?
So you admit it? That cyclists do it? Not the research,YOU. Im not interested in your RTA statistics regarding red light jumping. Do you admit cyclists do it? Just because there was no collision does not mean its ok. Do you agree?
roaduser66:
2 - Do you agree some cyclists ride while drunk?
I expect so. Again, it’s not a factor in KSI rates. Look at the link, it explains contributory factors in RTCs and drunk cyclists doesn’t appear. Not even in the top twenty. Surely you noticed this, when you read the link?
Again with the statistics. You know why drunk cyclist statistics dont appear anywhere? Because there are none. The police arn’t allowed to use the breathalyser equipment. So it does not get logged as such. But it still happens. And like drunk driving,just because nothing bad happens does not make it acceptable
roaduser66:
3 - Do you agree some cyclists have no road sense?
I’ve posted examples together with the research. It’s in the “Risky Cycling” link. Are you sure you’re reading my posts?
More statistics. Do YOU agree?
roaduser66:
4 - Do you agree some cyclists are a danger to themselves and others?
I’ve posted the research. Look upthread. It’s under “Risky Cycling”. A minority of cyclists pose a risk to other road users of the same magnitude as golf balls or bees.
A minority? As much as golf balls or bees? Are you on drugs? Are you capable of giving a straight yes or no without throwing up more and more statistics?
You may have answered all these before but im damned if im gonna read all your pro guardian BS again. Just answer,in your own words,without massaged and manipulated statistics to suit the pro cyclists.
roaduser66:
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Do you agree that all of us are more likely to be killed by a lorry driver looking at ■■■■■■■■■■■ at the wheel than by a cyclist in any circumstances? If no, explain why.
No. Lorry drivers looking at ■■■■ while driving is an EXTREMELLY rare occurrance. Rarer than,say,cyclist moves out without looking,car behind swerves and to avoid them and ploughs into oncoming HGV. Cyclist not involved but is it his fault? Or cyclist doesnt look while running the light at pedestrian crossing and smashes into a pram or oap crossing the road. Very rare but still could happen
roaduser66:
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Do you admit that 80% of HGVs being found to be on the road illegally is a shocking indictment of the industry?
I would if it were true but
Ive already told you statistics are meaningless. Proven by the fact you missed out the words stopped by police or vosa. Its not 80% of all hgvs,its 80% of those stopped. And since a huge majority of those stopped are stopped BECAUSE they see something they want to check it kinda puts the 80% thing in perspective. Plus of the 80%,how many were misdemeaners that would get a car driver off with a “get it fixed as soon as” but coz its an hgv its taken off road and classed as illegal? Lots of them. So your 80% comes down a bit there.
Also,what percentage of bikes on the road are unroadworthy and illegal? We will never know but im guessing its a huge amount. Is that a shocking indictment of the cycle industry? That there is no need to properly maintain or service a bike? As ive said,I used to work in halfords and the amount of people who cycled to the store and said “can you look at my brakes,they arn’t working properly” would blow your mind
roaduser66:
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Can you explain how a man who had been banned from driving three times got a job driving a lorry in London?
No. You’d need to ask his employer that one.Can you explain why this same person can go into halfords,slap £60 on the counter and then still be allowed on the road and have people like you defend him in an accident?
roaduser66:
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Do you accept that lorry drivers drive drunk, drugged, looking at ■■■■, texting, speeding etc etc?
Of course I do. Ive never said otherwise. And ive said it without simply posting links to “research”. ALL road users have an element that do this. Cyclists seem to be the only one where the majority of them think its acceptable or apply to them.
roaduser66:
The police attended an RTC with no injuries? That’s unusual. The cyclist did lots of damage to the car but was able to make his own way home? Mmmm. Your mum could have claimed directly from the cyclist, the fact she didn’t isn’t the fault of the police, who rarely attend non-injury collisions. I expect there’s rather more to this story, and the plural of unprovable and frankly implausible anecdote isn’t data.
Yes they did. Because she called them when he ploughed into her and ended up lying in the road. Its called reporting a collision (being a cyclist your probably not familiar with that term). The police ALWAYS attend a 999 call. Maybe it wasn’t an emergency but she is 69 years old and paniced.
Did I say he was uninjured? He had a cut head (no helmet) and bloody elbows (wearing a t-shirt). Plus he was rather aggressive with it. Why is anyones guess. He ran the light. But that’s why the police attended. Where does it say that in every collision someone needs to go to hospital and cant make their own way home? It wasnt exactly life threatning. I used to work the doors and ive had worse injurys but I still drove home afterwards,perfectly able to.
Have you ever paid to fix a bashed wing and bumper? It isnt exactly cheap. I said expensive,not lots. But judging by your attitude today im guessing you rarely drive so never have.
Claim from the cyclist? How exactly? Two car collision. Insurance detail swap and let them sort it out. Car and cyclist? The expense and hassle and stress of small claims court due to no insurance for the party to blame? Are you kidding?
Yes it may be unprovable but I know it happened so I use it as an example. I don’t need to prove anything to you. Implausable? Maybe in your cycle tinted world. Not in the real world. I wasnt using it as data,it was an example. We all know how much you LOVE the data.
