Happydaze:
It’s very simple. If you don’t want to do it, don’t apply for it. Why give them a free advert if you don’t like it?
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Happydaze:
It’s very simple. If you don’t want to do it, don’t apply for it. Why give them a free advert if you don’t like it?
It’s not ‘don’t want to do it’, it’s can’t afford to do it.
dinosteveus1:
Happydaze:
It’s very simple. If you don’t want to do it, don’t apply for it. Why give them a free advert if you don’t like it?It’s not ‘don’t want to do it’, it’s can’t afford to do it.
You can’t afford to not do a job.
Right you are.
Well when I was an employer I would sooner take a driver on who had worked rather than one sat on his bottom 
jonnytruckfest:
But I don’t complain because what I earn at the end of the month is more important to how much I earn per hour.
in these bad times there is more than a certain amount of truth to the statement above
gonzothejaffa1:
when are you lot gonna wake up and smell the coffee ffs seriously now have you lot not noticed there is a recession on and said company is doing what countless others are failing to do keep lads and lasses in work earning a wage now he’s not the best payer in the country but they are keeping roughly 70 people off the dole he is a fair employer and more tolerant than most and overtime is available more often than not and he is always willing to give newbies a chance so get off your high horses and give them a break
not everyone can afford to pay top wages and like many others are doing what they can do to try to survive, you cannot pay out what it not coming in simple mathematics, many on these forums are experiencing their first real crisis others know what is coming, belive me this crap is not over yet and many will be more than grateful for any kind of job
Happydaze:
dinosteveus1:
Happydaze:
It’s very simple. If you don’t want to do it, don’t apply for it. Why give them a free advert if you don’t like it?It’s not ‘don’t want to do it’, it’s can’t afford to do it.
You can’t afford to not do a job.
Right you are.
If I had a sprog I’d be on wftc and that would make a low paid decent job a good job. I cannot cover my mortgage, electric etc on £16000.
dinosteveus1:
Happydaze:
dinosteveus1:
Happydaze:
It’s very simple. If you don’t want to do it, don’t apply for it. Why give them a free advert if you don’t like it?It’s not ‘don’t want to do it’, it’s can’t afford to do it.
You can’t afford to not do a job.
Right you are.
If I had a sprog I’d be on wftc and that would make a low paid decent job a good job. I cannot cover my mortgage, electric etc on £16000.
So don’t apply for it. I neither know or care about your personal situation, and I don’t want to. I just don’t understand why the Original Poster feels the need to start a thread about something that (as far as I can see) is of no consequence to him, and in doing so is actually advertising a position which somebody might apply for as a result of reading about here.
Kinda defeats the object, wouldn’t you agree? 
Vascoingles:
jonnytruckfest:
But I don’t complain because what I earn at the end of the month is more important to how much I earn per hour.in these bad times there is more than a certain amount of truth to the statement above
gonzothejaffa1:
when are you lot gonna wake up and smell the coffee ffs seriously now have you lot not noticed there is a recession on and said company is doing what countless others are failing to do keep lads and lasses in work earning a wage now he’s not the best payer in the country but they are keeping roughly 70 people off the dole he is a fair employer and more tolerant than most and overtime is available more often than not and he is always willing to give newbies a chance so get off your high horses and give them a breaknot everyone can afford to pay top wages and like many others are doing what they can do to try to survive, you cannot pay out what it not coming in simple mathematics, many on these forums are experiencing their first real crisis others know what is coming, belive me this crap is not over yet and many will be more than grateful for any kind of job
exactly
the firm is ticking over at the minute we are kept busy but not as busy as we should be i have been told that they haven’t had a rate rise for a couple of years we tend to do the work others wnt touch a niche if you like but some of our work is involved with the building trade which has been on its arse the last few years and i also work on the theory of any port in a storm yes i aggree they are not the highest payers out there but the important bit is they WILL be there when this ■■■■ storm is done with
on a slightly different note we do tend to have a high turnover of people that call themselves drivers its not clean work by any stretch of the imagination and when reality kicks in and your having to secure/sheet a loads in the howling wind and rain then most cnt hack it , he does expect a bit of work out of you but he is a fair employer 15 years on and off cnt be wrong
he is providing dcpc training along with hiab and moffet training at no cost how many of you can say that ?
so when the options are sign on or work which would you choose ?
Low paying jobs do serve a purpose, its somewhere to go to learn the job for newby’s.
Theres a certain sizeable car transporter outfit not far from me who’s pay rate for new starters (and doesn’t improve no matter how long you stay) is just about the poorest in the industry, established employees from previous years on different contract, it doesn’t appear so when the rosey view through those tinted glasses come out during interview.
Once you get up and running though it soon dawns so the best stick it out for a while to learn the ropes, then bugger off to better paid as fully skilled transporter drivers.
How that benefits the company i can’t work out, training costs and the inevitable bills for damage are sizeable and ongoing costs, still it means the trainers and HR have jobs for life, and the competition get the wheat sorted from the chaff with little cost.
Paying fair money and treating people decently, not numbers, gets quality long term employees.
Some money is better than no money!! 
…some of you are just utter ■■■■■■ no wonder some employers would rather employ the Polish!!!..If I had a business I would employ them too,Instead of some lazy,moaning,whinging British idiot,who wont get out of bed for less than a tenner to do a job that any monkey can do with a couple of weeks training!!
ffs its not rocket science or brain surgery and as has been said previously,at least the employer is giving people the chance of a job. 
Bikemonkey:
Some money is better than no money!!
ffs its not rocket science or brain surgery and as has been said previously,at least the employer is giving people the chance of a job.
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Bikemonkey:
Some money is better than no money!!
ffs its not rocket science or brain surgery and as has been said previously,at least the employer is giving people the chance of a job.
I think that’s the logic that plenty of those ‘lazy’,‘moaning’,‘whingeing’,‘British idiots’ used right up until the point when they found the house repo’d and asking the council to house them.
As for me if I was looking for a job I’d probably take the job at that rate ‘if’ the guvnor changed the job description to distance full load work only.In which case you can bet that the the Poles would actually want the job instead of it being advertised for some mug moaning lazy Brit like me. 
Carryfast:
I think that’s the logic that plenty of those ‘lazy’,‘moaning’,‘whingeing’,‘British idiots’ used right up until the point when they found the house repo’d and asking the council to house them.
What,so sitting on your arse refusing a job cause its paying 50p to £1 an hour less than an average driver gets is also gonna stave off the house being repossessed??..doesn’t sound logical to me?? or am I missing the point??
i would far rather work for £7 an hour for someone established and half decent who treats the drivers fairly,than for the likes of Tesco or Stobart or some scumbag agency paying more…times are hard,unfortunately a lot of people live waaaay beyond their means mortgaged up to the eyeballs with a credit card to match,living a champagne lifestyle on lemonade money with a bad attitude and a chip on their shoulder!!
Bikemonkey:
Carryfast:
I think that’s the logic that plenty of those ‘lazy’,‘moaning’,‘whingeing’,‘British idiots’ used right up until the point when they found the house repo’d and asking the council to house them.What,so sitting on your arse refusing a job cause its paying 50p to £1 an hour less than an average driver gets is also gonna stave off the house being repossessed??..doesn’t sound logical to me?? or am I missing the point??
i would far rather work for £7 an hour for someone established and half decent who treats the drivers fairly,than for the likes of Tesco or Stobart or some scumbag agency paying more…times are hard,unfortunately a lot of people live waaaay beyond their means mortgaged up to the eyeballs with a credit card to match,living a champagne lifestyle on lemonade money with a bad attitude to match!!
It all depends on your definition of champagne lifestyle.By the way that’s about what I was earning doing night trunking 13 years ago which was a lot easier than general haulage which is why I said that they’d need make the job just distance work and full loads if I was looking to take it on.In which case no doubt they could find a Pole who’d do the job for less than that.
jonnytruckfest:
I’m on an apprenticeship, the minimum wage for an apprentice is about £2.50 or something or other, I took the job because I couldn’t find anything else plus the company is a good one to work for…and offered more money too. So when people complain about low wages, I’m doing just fine. £200 a month goes to my parents and the rest goes on what I want to spend it on. So I’m not doing all bad.Cheers
Jonny
Jonny, when you move out of your parents house and into your own place, maybe with a sprog or two to bring up and a ball and chain to keep happy with all the brown letters with your name on hitting the doormat come back and lecture us about how fine you’re doing then. Until that time give your fingers a rest.
44 Tonne Ton:
jonnytruckfest:
I’m on an apprenticeship, the minimum wage for an apprentice is about £2.50 or something or other, I took the job because I couldn’t find anything else plus the company is a good one to work for…and offered more money too. So when people complain about low wages, I’m doing just fine. £200 a month goes to my parents and the rest goes on what I want to spend it on. So I’m not doing all bad.Cheers
Jonny
Jonny, when you move out of your parents house and into your own place, maybe with a sprog or two to bring up and a ball and chain to keep happy with all the brown letters with your name on hitting the doormat come back and lecture us about how fine you’re doing then. Until that time give your fingers a rest.
There’s an apprentice that works where I do with that sort of commitment and from what he’s told me he’s doing just fine on the money we’re on. So it isn’t just my experience I’m taking that from. Also the moving out bit I could tell you how well I would be doing ball and chain…don’t do well under commitment after my past relationship and the little sprogs… I’m not going to divulge that information on here. But I’ll kindly come back and inform you…
Cheers
Jonny 
What is this apprenticeship you’re doing?
Simple warehouse apprenticeship malarky. Picking and packing clothes on the tesco contract.
The jobs I’ve had thus far are:
Picking
Packing
Loading(Cardboard or Clothes to go out)/Unloading Trailers (Clothes to be put away on shelves ready to be picked etc…)
Putaways
Underfives
Bulk Picks
Admin work
Goods In
Click & Collect
Supervising of conveyor belt.
General Housekeeping
My main jobs are usually picking, underfives, putaways, loading of the cardboard trailer, click and collect and general housekeeping. Averaging about 650+ picks a day but varies upon the work load A jobs a job, and they know I’m wanting to get my lgv license so they said once the apprenticeship is up and i’m working full time they’ll look into putting me through my tests etc So I can’t be doing all bad
Cheers
Jonny
now listen.
The one Company i worked for paid £6.50 Monday to Freiday from 06.00 to 18.00 and £9.- sat,Sunday,Bank Holiday and Overtime.It also gave a £50.- Bonus every week.
48 Hour day gave me minimum £370.- take Home and highest before Tax was £944.-/Week
Have the Payslip still here
One thing that narks me off is the people who are quite happy to take tax credits to top up a low paid job when they can but wont get a higher paid job. To me it is sponging. I have been on tax credits myself when I needed to be but now don’t recieve any.