Phantom Mark:
Waste of bandwidth keeping a clip on my account which clearly has drawn such a negative response, and frankly ashamed at my language being tied to the other more fun things on my youtube account.
fair comment.
post some of the good ones.
Carryfast:
Another good reason to use the main beam on the headlights at all times wherever possible.
Absolutely, but there was a car not far enough away in front, and cars oncoming on the opposite side of the road at the time.
it caught you out and I’d say if you were honest it genuinely frightened you.
Of course, that’s why I was so angry, the potential for something very nasty to have happened were very real, all for the sake of the cyclist not using a rear light.
limeyphil:
Phantom Mark:
Waste of bandwidth keeping a clip on my account which clearly has drawn such a negative response, and frankly ashamed at my language being tied to the other more fun things on my youtube account.fair comment.
post some of the good ones.
with pleasure…
by Phantom Mark » Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:43 pm
Just instinct took over, at the time I was not experienced either, given the same situation now and with experience on my side things might well be different, only after the event you realise how close you came, I had the trailer about a foot in the air and it scared the hell out of me at the time lol.Phantom Mark
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you say “apart from the light issue” as though it`s only a minor factor
Not at all.
I “say apart from the lighting issue” as I imagine 100% of the people on here would agree that he should have had lights on and as such see no point in even discussing something so obvious.
commonrail:
del949:
I don’t think that anyone has tried to defend the cyclist.really
yes really, lots of people critiscising the OP’s attitude to the cyclist but don’t see any defending the cyclist, unless you mean defending the right of “A” cyclist to be there doing his own thing.
I haven’t seen anyone say that he had a right not to show lights or wear high vis for example or even attempt to justify that…
When all is said and done this kind of near accident is a daily occurence, maybe not cyclists but other drivers of either cars or trucks… it’s life!
fair enough then.it just seemed to me that people were putting the near miss down to the drivers lack of concentration,speed and poor eyesight.
plenty were, but not me!
so they were defending the cyclist then…
Nearly? No room for nearly on this board lad kill kill kill kill 
media disclaimer: all views are in jest (banter ya ken)
so they were defending the cyclist then
I don’t think so. it’s perfectly possible to criticise one party without defending the other.
Right i havent actally watched the videio but from the comments posted i am geussing the videio showed a cyclist riding down a dule carage way doing everything by the book except for the light issue.
Now i would say when driving at night you should always be on the lookout for a cyclist/pedestrian/sompthing that is unlit and adjust your speed accordingly, I always find myself looking for sompthing just out of view and thinking could i stop before i hit it if the answer is no then i slow down, this also applied on motorways, i dont belive its safe to be doing 70 on an unlit motorway at night (based on vehicles i have driven) even at 60 i nearly hit a lump of black plastic sompthing that was in lane 1 at night witch if noting els could have dont damage to my vehicle.
Obviously the cyclist in this situation didnt have lights whitch i agree is silly however when i first started riding at night (age 14ish) i used to use lights but just had a small flashing light on the back, and simlar on the front fine i though, untill one night a motorcyclist came past then pulled over, flagged me down and explained that one ligth wasnt enough and that i really should use more then one or a brighter one, seems common sence now specially after driving at night and looking at what lighs people use and how effective they are.
so the op is perfectly happy to take the time and effort to record the happenings and then post them on youtube, personally i would have pulled up somwere and explained to the cyclist the error of his ways, his light might have even gon out or come off unbeknown to him, that way you could possibly save someones life
AHT:
Now i would say when driving at night you should always be on the lookout for a cyclist/pedestrian/sompthing that is unlit and adjust your speed accordingly, I always find myself looking for sompthing just out of view and thinking could i stop before i hit it if the answer is no then i slow down
so what speed would you be doing in this situation 
personally i would have pulled up somwere and explained to the cyclist the error of his ways, his light might have even gon out or come off unbeknown to him, that way you could possibly save someones life
I wish I had said that!! 
del949:
personally i would have pulled up somwere and explained to the cyclist the error of his ways, his light might have even gon out or come off unbeknown to him, that way you could possibly save someones life
I wish I had said that!!
+1 
commonrail:
AHT:
Now i would say when driving at night you should always be on the lookout for a cyclist/pedestrian/sompthing that is unlit and adjust your speed accordingly, I always find myself looking for sompthing just out of view and thinking could i stop before i hit it if the answer is no then i slow downso what speed would you be doing in this situation
As i didnt see the vid i cant comment on that particular situation however on a streight lit road i would think that about 50 (max on DC anyway) you should be able to react in time to avoid most hazzards slightly less in poor weather etc
jessicas dad:
Bloody hell, what an idiot, I remember when I lived in Southampton I used to call at the paper shop in the morning, one winter I nearly hit 2 paper boys on their bikes messing around in the road with no lights on the bikes in dark clothing. I reported them to the shop. Next day was told " we have had a word with them ".
We used to have a young lad around here who always did his round with no Hi-viz & no lights on his bike. I went to the shop and had a word but was as good as told to mind my own business. I never used the shop again while that miserble cow was in charge there.
As far as I’m concerned, it should be down to the shop to make sure the paper rounds staff are safe when they go out on their rounds & the H&SE should hold them to it.
BB
Basilbrush:
jessicas dad:
Bloody hell, what an idiot, I remember when I lived in Southampton I used to call at the paper shop in the morning, one winter I nearly hit 2 paper boys on their bikes messing around in the road with no lights on the bikes in dark clothing. I reported them to the shop. Next day was told " we have had a word with them ".We used to have a young lad around here who always did his round with no Hi-viz & no lights on his bike. I went to the shop and had a word but was as good as told to mind my own business. I never used the shop again while that miserble cow was in charge there.
As far as I’m concerned, it should be down to the shop to make sure the paper rounds staff are safe when they go out on their rounds & the H&SE should hold them to it.
BB
I hope you explained that you were only thinking of the adolescents.
commonrail:
AHT:
Now i would say when driving at night you should always be on the lookout for a cyclist/pedestrian/sompthing that is unlit and adjust your speed accordingly, I always find myself looking for sompthing just out of view and thinking could i stop before i hit it if the answer is no then i slow downso what speed would you be doing in this situation
Impossibly slow because in that case that speed would need to be the distance which you can see to be clear ahead in the dipped headlights.There’s always a contradiction in the case of using dipped lights on unlit roads and seeing badly/unlit obstructions in the road in time to change lanes and/or leave sufficient clearance.
That’s what I was getting at.
Not seen the video as now removed by OP.
I think many here, especially the OP, should go and drive at night in Thailand for a couple of weeks. Don’t need to be a truck, car or pickup will do fine. It will have heavily tinted glass all round inc. windscreen so that the headlight light appears yellow.
You will drive on unlit intercity highways and need to keep up with the fast moving traffic. (100kph+). You will randomly come across farm tuk tuks
with no lights doing 15mph in your lane. Broken down vehicles and/or road works in live lanes with NO prior warning.
Last but not least, unlit motorbikes, sometimes carrying Mum, Dad, 2 kids, shopping and dog on the hard shoulder riding towards you!
flickr.com/photos/asiaproduc … 427981077/
(the dog goes in the front basket).
Then come back here and see how safe our roads are and how well behaved most road users are.
