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boredwivdrivin:
we only have the gormless dregs
Yep, that would be you. If you love tulips that much FO to Holland to live and find something to else to whinge about. Your username sums it up really, if your really bored with driving then leave us 'Gormless dregs ’ to it. We’ll be better off
I haven’t driven in London for a long time now and have no real desire to ever go there in the future. I am assuming it fair to assume that like cyclists in other parts of the country, some of these two wheeled trojans ride with no lights in the winter months, wear dark clothing in busy traffic, cross lanes without looking over their shoulder, shoot over red lights, take short cuts across the footpath, have no concept of what give way signs mean and are oblivious to turning lorries and buses etc?
If Boris is so keen on safety in London, wouldn’t it make more sense for cyclists there to have their bikes registered and be forced to take a compulsory safety course before being allowed onto the city streets? That way everybody is contributing to road safety, rather than just trying to constantly demonize trucks.
Is that a double post ?
Or do you repeat yourself .
Perhaps its the dribbling gets in the keyboard ?
Look at it this way 
Standard issue Human Beings ( professional , irresponsible, psychotic, retarded , with or without brain sickness & even 8 wheeler drivers ) are supplied with 1 pair of eyes , 1 pair of ears , & 1 brain to process all information whilst carrying out various tasks .
No one anywhere sets out wishing to be involved in any genuine accident scenarios ,you yourself admit 1 second is enough to lose sight of a potential victim , but with all the information input & processing required , even the most professional responsible driver is unable to keep 1 pair of eyes looking everywhere all around them at all times .
But you expect , with all this going on , he also has to be responsible ( becausŷe he is professional ) , for cyclists , as they , it seems have no responsibility to him . Surely ,though having been supplied with the very same information gathering & processing equipment, they have a responsibility to look after themselves .
Even in the most amateur of road user , this inbuilt processing gear , we are all fitted with , should be used to alert them to hazards & danger , especially when unfortunate incidents occur regularly . This type of learning has stood mankind well for thousands of years , but sadly it would appear that , instead of taking on board & learning anything from what are well known issues regarding blind spots , left turns etc , from something many many times larger & heavier even when it is fitted with more & more safety devices ,this part of cyclists brain process is failing to alert them to these dangers .
But , you propose we will remove a drivers LGV entitlement, because he has not put in 1 weeks worth of bike riding , while amateurs , with no training , or means of identification roam freely , doing what they wish , putting themselves in danger , on a continual basis .
Carry on the Crusade 
boredwivdrivin:
Is that a double post ?
Or do you repeat yourself .
Perhaps its the dribbling gets in the keyboard ?
Making sure you didn’t miss it. And yeah I dribbled my coffee at your crass crap.
Driving in London is chaos and it changes people. People who drive in London on a regular basis don’t give a crap because if they did they weren’t get anyway.
You can put all this safety gear on the trucks and train drivers etc but if you can’t change the attitude to driving in London then you won’t get anywhere.
boredwivdrivin:
Whatever
Its still the drivers responsibility to ensure no one is on the blind side BEFORE he turns left
End of.
Exactly right and completely correct. The sooner some drivers realise this the better instead of always blaming the cyclists.
Yes lorries have blind spots…make sure nothing enters it as any professional would do…USE YOUR OBSERVATION FOR ONCE.
peterm:
I notice he still hasn’t answered you yet… maybe he’s run out of insults, but I doubt it.
Like all internet heros who give it the big un,when they get asked a straight question they answer with “im not responding to the likes of you”.
Im still confused as to how asking him to explain why cyclists are resisting calls for thier industry to be regulated when he was demanding more regulations for HGVs constitutes trolling. I can only think hes using big words he doesnt understand.
Although I do note that after I called him out,his posts changed from random,rambling,insult laden, aggressive mince to making a bit more sense and actually attempting(slightly!) to put a point across.
Strange that…
The-Snowman:
peterm:
I notice he still hasn’t answered you yet… maybe he’s run out of insults, but I doubt it.Like all internet heros who give it the big un,when they get asked a straight question they answer with “im not responding to the likes of you”.
Im still confused as to how asking him to explain why cyclists are resisting calls for thier industry to be regulated when he was demanding more regulations for HGVs constitutes trolling. I can only think hes using big words he doesnt understand.
Although I do note that after I called him out,his posts changed from random,rambling,insult laden, aggressive mince to making a bit more sense and actually attempting(slightly!) to put a point across.
Strange that…
Eh up snowman, the next time you see boredwivdrivin in your blindspot, I think you should take it upon yourself to give him the old moose ride. In fact, I think this is what HGV drivers should do to all cyclists when they pass them out on the road.
boredwivdrivin:
I would like to see a driving permit that validates our LGV entitlement and needs to updated yearly by riding a bike on the road for say 5x7 hour days .
If you dont do it u lose yr licence until u do
Yet I asked you to explain why cyclists resisted ALL calls for THEM to be regulated and be required to sit an assessment (or get a permit if you will) and you responded by calling me a troll,ending with insults and not actually answering the question.
So why should HGVs need an annual permit when cyclists demand the right not to have ANY regulations placed on them?
boredwivdrivin:
I saw a green party video ( i think) a few years ago where they got 5 fat ignorant driverd and asked them to ride a mile
It was as they say an education
And if they asked 98% of cyclists to ride an hgv in London or any major city for 5 minutes I think we all know how THAT would work out.
Care to tell me otherwise?
(probably not)
I see your still letting the arrogance and hatred seep out there via insults. You want to watch that
boredwivdrivin:
They ( cyclists) are amateurs comprising women , children , commuters , fitness freaks , old people and of course some idiots
So by your own admission some cyclists are using the roads who dont know fully what their doing. So why should they be allowed to ride around with impunity? And why should the driver be given 100% of the blame in every collision like you said yesterday? You just admitted some of them were idiots. Why not introduce a cycle test and license?
boredwivdrivin:
Therefore they have no responsibility to you
Doesnt give them the right to see a vehicle waiting to turn left and pull up into its nearside.
boredwivdrivin:
But u the professional have a responsibilty to them
BOTH parties have a responsibility to each other. Drivers accept this,why cant cyclists?
albion1971:
Exactly right and completely correct. The sooner some drivers realise this the better instead of always blaming the cyclists.
Yes lorries have blind spots…make sure nothing enters it as any professional would do…USE YOUR OBSERVATION FOR ONCE.
No one ALWAYS blames the cyclist. Most posts to these threads are by other drivers offering opinions about what might have happened and from what I see it goes 50/50 apportioning blame. Even carryfast who always fights the hgv corner is quick with the condemnation if the lorry driver is at fault. Compare that with the likes of boredwivdriven and roaduser66 who come on here and lay it on thick and squarely right at the foot of the driver. Without knowing,or even being interested in, all the facts.
As for the blind spot issue. If I have a tight left turn,I need to hog the centre line,perhaps over it a little. How do I make sure no one enters it? Would it not be easier if BOTH parties took responsibility and cyclists didnt enter this area and waited behind left turning traffic? If I approach lights or a junction and see a cyclist waiting to turn ill wait behind them. And I appreciate they need a big gap if the roads are busy and I wait as long as it takes. Any cyclist/vehicle incident where the driver pulled along side them and turned into them deserves the driver being charged with manslaughter. No questions. But plenty cyclists see a nearside gap and ride right into it,not thinking about how quickly that gap will disappear when the lights change. They might be quicker but in the time it takes to spin the pedal round and get momentum going,the lorry or van is already moving round the corner
I dont get the cyclist mentality of passing responsibility for their safety to everyone else. I really dont
Albion and radar i completely agree with u
The powers that be will probably legislate to have even more mirrors
This will make the problem worse as will create MORE blindspots . at junctions missing motorcyclists perhaps .
And the biggest blindspot is the driver who doesnt adjust or use the mirrors he has got correctly already .
Clearly until the lorry driving community face up to their responsibilities these bad events will keep happening
Also i notice out the corner of my eye some trolling wag wants cyclists to have number plates . if you cant see the front of a cyclist in yr mirror i dont see how u will see a numberplate !!
And as cyclists always come off worse in an incident there is no need to contact DVLA to identify them . the police go thru their pockets before they scrape them into body bags
I wonder what’s for tea today
commonrail:
I wonder what’s for tea today
I’m rather peckish too!
boredwivdrivin:
Clearly until the lorry driving community face up to their responsibilities these bad events will keep happening
yet I ask you why cyclist community doesnt want to face up to ITS responsibility and you chuck your toys out the pram and act all childish.
boredwivdrivin:
Until the cycle community faces up to ITS responsibilitys as well these events will continue to happenboredwivdrivin:
Also i notice out the corner of my eye some trolling wag wants cyclists to have number plates . if you cant see the front of a cyclist in yr mirror i dont see how u will see a numberplate !!
And as cyclists always come off worse in an incident there is no need to contact DVLA to identify them . the police go thru their pockets before they scrape them into body bags
It wouldnt be used by the driver. Why would he need to see the number plate? It would be used to identify (and prosecute if neccessery) incidents of reckless,dangerous cycling. Because at present cyclists know they have next to know chance of getting caught so run red lights,weave in and out of traffic,pull out without looking or indicating,go wrong way round roundabouts and all manner of other idiotic manouveres. Its examples like that which creates the animosity by some drivers and creates the problems.
Perhaps if they thought there was a chance they would get caught at a later date through being indentifyed by their number plate they might obey all road rules,not just the ones that suit them
albion1971:
boredwivdrivin:
Whatever
Its still the drivers responsibility to ensure no one is on the blind side BEFORE he turns left
End of.Exactly right and completely correct. The sooner some drivers realise this the better instead of always blaming the cyclists.
Yes lorries have blind spots…make sure nothing enters it as any professional would do…USE YOUR OBSERVATION FOR ONCE.
Brilliant idea.Let’s tell all the cyclists that truck drivers can look ahead and in the mirrors on both sides all at once all the time and that it’s ok to undertake trucks through junctions.That’s sure to fix the problem. 
Carryfast . its your responsibility to do this to the best of your abilities at all times
Goes with the job , as you are by far the most dangerous person on the road by virtue of driving a lorry
The-Snowman:
boredwivdrivin:
Clearly until the lorry driving community face up to their responsibilities these bad events will keep happeningyet I ask you why cyclist community doesnt want to face up to ITS responsibility and you chuck your toys out the pram and act all childish.
The ‘responsibility’ being the simple rule don’t try to pass,especially undertake,turning or even potentially turning traffic through junctions.As it stands the issue of toys being thrown out of prams is all part of the militant re claim the streets green agenda.Which is trying to give carte blanche to cyclists to ignore the basic rules of the road on the bs basis of so called ‘vulnerability’. 
boredwivdrivin:
Carryfast . its your responsibility to do this to the best of your abilities at all times
Goes with the job , as you are by far the most dangerous person on the road by virtue of driving a lorry
That’s the key phrase you used right there ‘the best of YOUR abilities’. So if someone is less able than another, that makes it slightly more acceptable to hit someone on a bike does it? Because I’m pretty certain that everyone has different limits to THEIR abilities.
boredwivdrivin:
Carryfast . its your responsibility to do this to the best of your abilities at all times
Goes with the job , as you are by far the most dangerous person on the road by virtue of driving a lorry
Personally I couldn’t give a zb because I haven’t driven a truck since 1999 and luckily under the present politicised bs situation that won’t change.
The obvious question being ‘if’ I attempt to overtake or undertake a turning/potentially turning vehicle of whatever type,through a junction,while driving a car are you saying that the resulting collision is the fault of the driver of the turning vehicle ?.The fact is it is clear that you and your supporters are all about applying an anarchic situation which exempts cyclists from ‘the rules’ on the bs basis of ‘vulnerability’.In which case the casualty rate will just continue to rise.