boredwivdrivin:
Snowman .
You can certainly ask
But , excepting this post , i dont respond to trolls .
Particularly ones of the tunnel vision , idiot variety
Ok mate whatever.
You only post aggressive,lunatic posts, which make no sense,designed with the sole intention of provoking angry responses.
But IM the troll?
You really are something else. I suggest you go look up what being an internet troll actually is. Then look back your previous posts (in particular your belter of an aggressive rant blaming the stationary car when the cyclist ran into it) and you’ll find that its actually you.
Im more inclined to think that,after the last time when I handed your arse to you,you realise that insults and giving it the “I dont respond to the likes of you” is the only recourse you have left.
I had no intention of asking you such a direct question straight away but I see ive backed you so far into a corner with it you can only call me names and pretend you choose not to answer,rather than face the fact youve been called out and HAVE no answer.
Oh and BTW. you may…ahem…“choose” not to reply to me. But ill STILL reply to some of the idiotic things you post and ask you direct questions. I dont need you to respond. I only need you to keep ignoring and ducking the questions and it’ll be proven you have no sense,clue or grasp on reality
boredwivdrivin:
Carryfast .
I never said it was easy . i said its drivers responsibility .
May i suggest you keep an eye on yr offside mirror too for the motorcyclist hammering down there too
And dont drive a DAF in any town/city
As I said if you want to maximise the odds of seeing the suicidal undertaking cyclist you’re going to need to minimise the odds of seeing the motorcyclist who’s going to get hung up on the tail sweep or the pedestrian who leaps out ahead half way through the turn.On that note you’re right no one said it’s going to be easy and it still won’t absolutely guarantee that you’ll see the nutter on the bicycle every time.
rob22888:
If London wants to be a cycling city, it needs to pull it’s finger out and provide proper dutch-style cycling infrastructure to keep it’s office is victim, then the penny will drop.
Which still leaves the fact that there just isn’t enough space to provide it all.Room for cyclists can only be obtained at the expense of less road space for motor traffic and TFL knows it.While the cyclists seem to be on a suicidal crusade to shift the balance in favour of their ‘green’ preference.When the fact is London is more reliant on the free movement of motor traffic than cyclists ( or for that matter horse drawn transport ).The difference is that the horse users have long since understood that unlike the Green crusaders.
Well, you aren’t wrong. The proper cycling infrastructure will have to come at the expense of road space & despite my cynicism towards TfL I suspect it may well be in the pipeline as one of the main aims of the multi-billion investment in CrossRail is to further reduce road traffic, including buses.
Change is coming, motor traffic is increasingly going to get pushed out of our cities in favour of cycling. Unfortunately, it’ll all be too late for the many cyclists that have died already & will inevitably continue to die in London whilst the truck v bike debate rumbles on. How many lives could have been saved by doing something as simple as giving cyclists a 5 second head start at traffic lights?
Its true there are no guarantees . accidents do happen . you might swerve to avoid a child running on the road to fetch a football and clatter a cyclist overtaking you . but by being aware of your mirror activities certainly minimises these risks .
Perhaps part of the problem is to much space on london streets leading to visual overload .
In Den Haag they have multiuser narrow roads with trams cars buses lorries motorbikes and scooters all sharing a narrow lane with absolutely minimal street furniture and visual ’ noise’…
Entirely seperate from pedestrians and cyclists .
They have far lower deaths on their streets
rob22888:
Well, you aren’t wrong. The proper cycling infrastructure will have to come at the expense of road space & despite my cynicism towards TfL I suspect it may well be in the pipeline as one of the main aims of the multi-billion investment in CrossRail is to further reduce road traffic, including buses.
Change is coming, motor traffic is increasingly going to get pushed out of our cities in favour of cycling. Unfortunately, it’ll all be too late for the many cyclists that have died already & will inevitably continue to die in London whilst the truck v bike debate rumbles on. How many lives could have been saved by doing something as simple as giving cyclists a 5 second head start at traffic lights?
Cross rail won’t do anything about the situation of traffic in London.The fact is the place has always been the contradiction of trying to attract and then trying to force too much of the country’s population and resulting activety into too small an area.That applies wether it is space for housing or road space for transport.On that basis the cycling craze is just a bs politically motivated attempt to turn the clock back to a time before motor traffic.As such,just as if it was all about bringing back horse drawn transport in a big way,it won’t work.
As for the cyclist mindset of always wanting to outrun road traffic across junctions that is actually the problem.IE if I was on a cycle waiting at lights I’d want to wait and be well behind any potentially turning traffic,especially trucks or buses,entering the junction when the lights turn green,not at the side or even slightly ahead.
boredwivdrivin:
Its true there are no guarantees . accidents do happen . you might swerve to avoid a child running on the road to fetch a football and clatter a cyclist overtaking you . but by being aware of your mirror activities certainly minimises these risks .
Perhaps part of the problem is to much space on london streets leading to visual overload .
In Den Haag they have multiuser narrow roads with trams cars buses lorries motorbikes and scooters all sharing a narrow lane with absolutely minimal street furniture and visual ’ noise’…
Entirely seperate from pedestrians and cyclists .
They have far lower deaths on their streets
Firstly there is no where that can realistically be compared with the population and resulting activety which applies in London.
As for mirrors as I said it’s not possible to look at the offside mirrors and/or ahead at the same time as looking at the near side mirrors.While the only way to minimise the risk of missing an undertaking cyclist in the near side mirrors is to apply less attention to ahead and the offside.Logically to the point where ahead and offside are effectively ignored in favour of just concentrating on the nearside throughout the approach and the turn.Which is more or less the method which I used in left turn situations.However,as I said,even that is no guarantee that the type of suicidal behaviour of cyclists around trucks will always be seen in time.
Sadly, another tipper.
Hate to say it, but alot of tipper drivers are lunitics, including the one who cut across the front of me to get to a parking space whilst on the bloody phone!
boredwivdrivin:
Snowman .
You can certainly ask
But , excepting this post , i dont respond to trolls .
Particularly ones of the tunnel vision , idiot variety
Ok mate whatever.
You only post aggressive,lunatic posts, which make no sense,designed with the sole intention of provoking angry responses.
But IM the troll?
You really are something else. I suggest you go look up what being an internet troll actually is. Then look back your previous posts (in particular your belter of an aggressive rant blaming the stationary car when the cyclist ran into it) and you’ll find that its actually you.
Im more inclined to think that,after the last time when I handed your arse to you,you realise that insults and giving it the “I dont respond to the likes of you” is the only recourse you have left.
I had no intention of asking you such a direct question straight away but I see ive backed you so far into a corner with it you can only call me names and pretend you choose not to answer,rather than face the fact youve been called out and HAVE no answer.
Oh and BTW. you may…ahem…“choose” not to reply to me. But ill STILL reply to some of the idiotic things you post and ask you direct questions. I dont need you to respond. I only need you to keep ignoring and ducking the questions and it’ll be proven you have no sense,clue or grasp on reality
I notice he still hasn’t answered you yet… maybe he’s run out of insults, but I doubt it.
boredwivdrivin:
And dont drive a DAF in any town/city
You’ll love me then. I did London multi drop in a Daf rigid (actually many large towns and cities) and I now drive a Daf tipper. The tipper has no side guards, cycle sensors or cameras and I haven’t hit anyone.
I’m not on bonus or job and knock either.
The size of the city is irrelevant . its traffic density / square km .
And whilst i cant post links on phone , they are easy to google
Most congested countries are belguim ( brussels and antwerp) then england then Holland .
Accident rates DO not follow this pattern
Maybe one of the bright boys with a mouse can post some EU graphs .
Is interesting and clearly shows big cities need not be worst .
Its a psychology rather than geography that causes variable cycle deaths / 000 journeys me thinks
How long will it take before people realize that cycling has become more dangerous than handling asbestos, smoking 30 a day, and drinking 3 units every 45 minutes combined?
I used to ride a bike everywhere.
Then I upgraded to a motorbike,
…nearly got killed in a high speed fall involving olive oil all over the road,
…which put me off riding ever again. If Mr super-careful me could still go flying thanks to something invisible in the road - I suggest that “getting killed” could happen to anyone at any time doing the activity in question.
To date, the motorbike accident is still the closest I ever came to death, and it was pure fluke that I managed to survive it.
Lesson learned! - Second chance grabbed with both hands!
Should we be thinking that “It’s another tipper” so often because that’s the majority of LGV’s driving around london these days - and/or - it really is because Tipper drivers are not using their mirrors enough, drive all over the place whilst trying to answer their phones at the wheel, & are just not paying enough attention to the traffic around them?
Manys a muckle makes a statistic.
I don’t have any bother taking a non-tipper artic through London, but there again I don’t use a non-hands-free phone whilst driving - ever.
If there isn’t a built-in hands free in the cab - I won’t be attempting to answer the phone either.
If you a professional responsible driver without cab clutter distractions , no psychotic/jealousy/hatred brain sickness ; you are only ever going to be involved in genuine accident scenario .
I would like to see a driving permit that validates our LGV entitlement and needs to updated yearly by riding a bike on the road for say 5x7 hour days .
If you dont do it u lose yr licence until u do
I saw a green party video ( i think) a few years ago where they got 5 fat ignorant driverd and asked them to ride a mile
It was as they say an education
Look at it this way casual obs .
They ( cyclists) are amateurs comprising women , children , commuters , fitness freaks , old people and of course some idiots
Truck drivers are professionals ( even incl 8 legger drivers)
Therefore they have no responsibility to you ,
But u the professional have a responsibilty to them
Simple .
sadly another one was killed on sunday in harrow but has not been mentioned prob because it was with a car !!! also boris is building cycle super highways at a cost of a bout 50 million and refuses too acknowledge that once built they should be compulsory for all cyclists what a waste of money if they will not be forced too use or face fines
boredwivdrivin:
Look at it this way casual obs .
They ( cyclists) are amateurs comprising women , children , commuters , fitness freaks , old people and of course some idiots
Truck drivers are professionals ( even incl 8 legger drivers)
Therefore they have no responsibility to you ,
But u the professional have a responsibilty to them
Simple .
What a load of utter tripe!
So by token of that we are the expendables in any litigation/blameworthy court case that would come every day if your other crass about its never the cyclists fault came into being.
Holland have it as it’s been there for years and they are very very traffic aware from a young age.
In UK any Tom ■■■■ Harriet can suddenly decide to get on a bike on a busy road even if they’ve never been on one before and wobble about all over causing mayhem if they get hit.
Any under your ■■■■■ they’ll always be in the right.
You really haven’t thought about any of this, you undercover for dimwit Boris and his fetish for Lycra?
In holland u have the added interest of 14 yo with micro scooters .
Still their death rates are lower .
Maybe its just that they attract a more intelligent class of person to the industry
Yet over here seemingly ( judging by these preceeding posts ) we only have the gormless dregs
