Another bridge hit for stobarts

Tesco tri / delivery >following tesco risk assessment > hits bridge > tesco, s fault > but let’s blame the driver :unamused: :unamused:

Roymondo:
Agency

You know who the driver is from the photo? Wow that’s amazing.

15,11 them trailers run at

Conor:

Roymondo:
Agency

You know who the driver is from the photo? Wow that’s amazing.

He’s probably right :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

eagerbeaver:
CF. I don’t normally pull you up on your post’s. But that last effort was complete ■■■■■■■■ mate.

What difference does it make what the in cab height indicator states? Mine changes all the time due to the variety of trailers that I pull.
Same with Stobarts.

It is up to the driver to alter the height indicator according to the trailer. Ideally you would have two in the cab. One for running solo/flats/skelly’s etc, and one for your trailer. Getting into a unit and not bothering to change/check the height indicator DOES NOT put anyone in the clear. In the case of Stobarts for instance, an empty trailer pulled by a Scania with it’s mid-lift up will run HIGHER than it will with a Volvo.

Also, how many of us know EXACTLY what height we are running at? Sure it might be based on a 5th wheel of 1250 mm for example, but how many of us check the 5th wheel height each trip? How many of us carry a telescopic height stick? I only carried one when I did roof trusses.

The point is that the cab indicator doesn’t clear anyone of anything.

I think that crashing into something that’s your fault is an ‘absolute offence’. It’s always the driver’s responsibility to A) know how high they are at the highest point,and B) set the height indicator accordingly. If you crash into something and the height indicator reads less than you are,you’re in the ■■■…
I’m amazed how many times a double decker trailer hits a bridge. Then again I’m amazed how many double decker buses do it :confused:

This photograph was taken just after it was moved from under the bridge .
The only low bridge in Barrow-in-Furness ,… and this driver managed to find it . :unamused:

Cheers ,… cattle wagon man .

m_attt:

Evil8Beezle:
Well that wasn’t even close, and I’m trying to think of an excuse for the driver but failing miserably…
I wonder who’s trailer it was and if the contract will continue.

Looks like a Tesco trailer

16’ 1" Tesco double deker. Limper. :grimacing: deserve everything they get. Pay peanuts. :laughing:

Carryfast:

pierrot 14:
Well following on from the other thread about the bridge with a conflicting sign of 4.1 mtr and 13’ , which is now into its 6th page I think

Just done a quick check on this sign and guess what

4.3 m is actually 14’1.291" :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth:

So is this a “UK” driver that didn’t check his imperial height before leaving the yard :question: :question: :question: :question: :question:
Surely he should’ve known that his 14’3 trailer wouldn’t have fitted under that bridge :exclamation: :exclamation:
By the way 14’3" is actually 4m3434,

BRING IT ON CARRYFAST

While 4.3 metres is obviously a safe rounded down under statement not over statement assuming a 14’ 3’’ height limit. :unamused:

So does that mean the Metric height on the bridge in the other thread should have been rounded down to 3.8m safety?

eagerbeaver:
CF. I don’t normally pull you up on your post’s. But that last effort was complete ■■■■■■■■ mate.

What difference does it make what the in cab height indicator states? Mine changes all the time due to the variety of trailers that I pull.
Same with Stobarts.

It is up to the driver to alter the height indicator according to the trailer. Ideally you would have two in the cab. One for running solo/flats/skelly’s etc, and one for your trailer. Getting into a unit and not bothering to change/check the height indicator DOES NOT put anyone in the clear. In the case of Stobarts for instance, an empty trailer pulled by a Scania with it’s mid-lift up will run HIGHER than it will with a Volvo.

Also, how many of us know EXACTLY what height we are running at? Sure it might be based on a 5th wheel of 1250 mm for example, but how many of us check the 5th wheel height each trip? How many of us carry a telescopic height stick? I only carried one when I did roof trusses.

The point is that the cab indicator doesn’t clear anyone of anything.

I didn’t say the cab indicator clears him.I said ‘if’ ‘the vehicle’ is less than 14’ 3’’ ‘and’ the cab indicator matches the height of ‘the vehicle’ then he’s in the clear. :unamused:

Must have thought the bridge height is what his trailer will be if he drove under it,numpty of the highest order.

Are you sure the driver isn’t sat in the passenger seat of the focus estate in the 1st pic lol.

caledoniandream:
Did he hit it Metric or Imperial■■?

By law you can only possibly hit a Brit bridge in imperial not metric. :smiling_imp: :bulb:

Daytrunker:
Must have thought the bridge height is what his trailer will be if he drove under it,numpty of the highest order.

Are you sure the driver isn’t sat in the passenger seat of the focus estate in the 1st pic lol.

I think he’s more likely to be in the back of the x5 in the second pic

muckles:

Carryfast:

pierrot 14:
Well following on from the other thread about the bridge with a conflicting sign of 4.1 mtr and 13’ , which is now into its 6th page I think

Just done a quick check on this sign and guess what

4.3 m is actually 14’1.291" :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth:

So is this a “UK” driver that didn’t check his imperial height before leaving the yard :question: :question: :question: :question: :question:
Surely he should’ve known that his 14’3 trailer wouldn’t have fitted under that bridge :exclamation: :exclamation:
By the way 14’3" is actually 4m3434,

BRING IT ON CARRYFAST

While 4.3 metres is obviously a safe rounded down under statement not over statement assuming a 14’ 3’’ height limit. :unamused:

So does that mean the Metric height on the bridge in the other thread should have been rounded down to 3.8m safety?

Why 3.8 when 3.9 would have done it.Which leaves the question was the vehicle over 13 feet and did the driver know the height in imperial by the required imperial in cab indicator.Or in fact are foreign vehicles subject to the imperial height indicator requirement.

Carryfast:
Why 3.8 when 3.9 would have done it.Which leaves the question was the vehicle over 13 feet and did the driver know the height in imperial by the required imperial in cab indicator.Or in fact are foreign vehicles subject to the imperial height indicator requirement.

You wonder why foreign vehicles have no height indicator in the cab■■?
It’s something called standardisation, makes life easy.
No vehicle on the continent should be higher than 4.00 mtr or 13 feet 1.48 inches (for the ancient Brits still some excist)
Make life easy, make the risk on bridge strikes a low as possible.
If you have a higher vehicle you come into specialist transport.
Many important bridges have automated warning systems which close the acces to the tunnel or bridge.
The old tilt would now and than set the height warning of on the Coentunnel or the Eurotunnel, wind would lift the roof slightly to much, and heho barriers closed, and you got diverted up a slip road to avoid a strike of the bridge / tunnel.

Carryfast:

muckles:

Carryfast:

pierrot 14:
Well following on from the other thread about the bridge with a conflicting sign of 4.1 mtr and 13’ , which is now into its 6th page I think

Just done a quick check on this sign and guess what

4.3 m is actually 14’1.291" :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth:

So is this a “UK” driver that didn’t check his imperial height before leaving the yard :question: :question: :question: :question: :question:
Surely he should’ve known that his 14’3 trailer wouldn’t have fitted under that bridge :exclamation: :exclamation:
By the way 14’3" is actually 4m3434,

BRING IT ON CARRYFAST

While 4.3 metres is obviously a safe rounded down under statement not over statement assuming a 14’ 3’’ height limit. :unamused:

So does that mean the Metric height on the bridge in the other thread should have been rounded down to 3.8m safety?

Why 3.8 when 3.9 would have done it.Which leaves the question was the vehicle over 13 feet and did the driver know the height in imperial by the required imperial in cab indicator.Or in fact are foreign vehicles subject to the imperial height indicator requirement.

3.8m bigger margin and don’t want to encourage them to give it a go now do we?

And I doubt a foreign truck is required to have a vehicle height in imperial measurements in the cab, the same as a UK truck doesn’t have to have a separate registration plate for the trailer or various marking with empty weight and payload when they go to other European countries.

caledoniandream:

Carryfast:
Why 3.8 when 3.9 would have done it.Which leaves the question was the vehicle over 13 feet and did the driver know the height in imperial by the required imperial in cab indicator.Or in fact are foreign vehicles subject to the imperial height indicator requirement.

You wonder why foreign vehicles have no height indicator in the cab■■?
It’s something called standardisation, makes life easy.
No vehicle on the continent should be higher than 4.00 mtr or 13 feet 1.48 inches (for the ancient Brits still some excist)
Make life easy, make the risk on bridge strikes a low as possible.
If you have a higher vehicle you come into specialist transport.
Many important bridges have automated warning systems which close the acces to the tunnel or bridge.
The old tilt would now and than set the height warning of on the Coentunnel or the Eurotunnel, wind would lift the roof slightly to much, and heho barriers closed, and you got diverted up a slip road to avoid a strike of the bridge / tunnel.

The problem being that no where can you guarantee that every bridge will provide clearance for 4 metres.While over here the law ( rightly ) says that vehicles must by law use an imperial height indicator in the cab.Because we ( rightly ) haven’t got our heads around the idea of one size fits all or the idea of measuring bridges in the equivalent of yards because the equivalent of yards is all we’ve got to measure them in. :unamused:

muckles:
I doubt a foreign truck is required to have a vehicle height in imperial measurements in the cab, the same as a UK truck doesn’t have to have a separate registration plate for the trailer or various marking with empty weight and payload when they go to other European countries.

The issue of how much margin isn’t exactly the same thing as trying to put a 4m truck under a 13 foot bridge.

As for cross border compliance while I’d agree with the principle of vehicles complying with the requirements in their place of registration.That obviously doesn’t apply in the case of safety issues like complying with local bridge measuring systems.On that note a Brit driver won’t get away with hitting a Continental bridge because he doesn’t know the height of the vehicle in metric.In just the same way that a foreign driver shouldn’t get away with hitting a bridge measured in imperial here because he doesn’t know the height of the vehicle measured in imperial.

no offence intended

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caledoniandream:
You wonder why foreign vehicles have no height indicator in the cab■■?
It’s something called standardisation, makes life easy.
No vehicle on the continent should be higher than 4.00 mtr or 13 feet 1.48 inches (for the ancient Brits still some excist)
.

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Standardisation is what its about. 4m maximum on the continent and no one has to worry. My FH has its fifth wheel set extremely low and with the old Gronewegan and VanHool tilts we pull can get the height down to 3.85m. Will never understand why the UK govt allows such tall trailers on its roads, set it to 4m and bridge strikes would be history…

Standardisation is what its about. 4m maximum on the continent and no one has to worry. My FH has its fifth wheel set extremely low and with the old Gronewegan and VanHool tilts we pull can get the height down to 3.85m. Will never understand why the UK govt allows such tall trailers on its roads, set it to 4m and bridge strikes would be history…
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unless your the flipflop that whacked the one at 4.1 meters… :smiley: