ROG:
If the system allowed him to do LGV mod 4 then he must have passed car test after 1996
The DQC system USED to give 5 years added onto the current DQC but new EU rules now state that getting either PCV or LGV added now simply gets incorporated into the current DQC so has the same current expiry date
That is how it was explained to me by the DSA dcpc hotline crew and they have not been wrong recently
just seems a bit weird Rog! if he had done his tests the other way round i.e class C first and then D would he have still need to do his mod 4 again or is it only drivers with acquired rights that the only have to do one lot of training to obtain their cpc cards for both D & C, or am I being thick
If he had no acquired rights and did all 4 C modules in may 2010 then all 4 D modules in January 2014 then the driver would end up with a DQC expiry dated May 2015 for both
Rat67:
Yeah, 1968kg is right, they’ll send it to you and you pay nothing. I got mine sent out when I did my cpc for the buses and now I’m waiting for my lgv version.
Didn’t your bus one cover you for trucks as well? Passed my car test in 2005, PCV shortly after, my dcpc card covered both truck and bus until 2019.
I’m 26, recently started with a truck company, who despite having my DCPC card were nice enough to put me through the whole course again, free of charge!!! In the classroom I believe everyone was old enough to be my dad lol
Each 7hr course completed requires an upload fee! Last time I know it was £8.75 per upload and this is partly to provide your card and admin when completed!
As has already been said, the card is sent out to the address on your driving licence within a few days of your 35 hours being uploaded by the training provider (they are allowed something like 5 days to do this). You don’t pay any extra fee (it’s included in the charges by the training provider) or make any special application - it all happens automagically.
You can only get a DQC if you have a photocard licence - but I think this would have been picked up at the start of training, as they are supposed to do a licence check. Maybe someone else can confirm this?
Whatever the situation though, the OP (and indeed anyone else undergoing DCPC training) should get onto this Government website:
(Although wouldn’t you know it - the site is down for maintenance this weekend!)
Once registered on that site, you will be able to check that all your training hours have been credited correctly. This is the only way of checking - regardless of who is paying for or providing your training, only you can register on the website and it is your responsibility to get the card.
Rat67:
Yeah, 1968kg is right, they’ll send it to you and you pay nothing. I got mine sent out when I did my cpc for the buses and now I’m waiting for my lgv version.
Didn’t your bus one cover you for trucks as well? Passed my car test in 2005, PCV shortly after, my dcpc card covered both truck and bus until 2019…
No, just had a look at bus dqc card and it says I’m covered for D1, D, D1E & DE. It’s going to be bloody annoying that I’ve paid out for initial DCPC for lgv and I’m only going to get two years out of it. Just going to have to hope the DSA are wrong or I’m going to be raising a bit of a stink over it. I don’t really mind if my PCV expiry date stays the same, 2016, but I’m buggered if they’re going to screw me out of three years LGV coverage
Rat67:
I don’t really mind if my PCV expiry date stays the same, 2016, but I’m buggered if they’re going to screw me out of three years LGV coverage
If they did give 5 years for LGV then the only way to align both dates for periodic dcpc would be to give you an extra few years for the PCV which they did originally until the EU not the DSA stopped it
Both must be aligned for periodic as hours done on periodic count for both if the driver has both
Good luck in trying to get in touch with the EU parliament and getting it changed - the DSA legally have their hands tied by the EU
Cheers Rog, bloody EU parliament are the bane of this country. I mean, why not just extend the pcv when you do lgv mod 4, it’s a bloody sight harder driving lorries than buses so it should be taken as read that if you can drive a wagon, then a bloody bus is a walk in the park. Flaming bureaucrats always making things harder than they need to be
Rat67:
it’s a bloody sight harder driving lorries than buses so it should be taken as read that if you can drive a wagon, then a bloody bus is a walk in the park.
The actual driving yes buses are easier, but in my opinion I’d much rather deal with cages and pallets than gangs of drunk/high youngsters, junkies, Passengers in general and City Centre traffic all day every day, I find life as a trucker much less stressful and much more enjoyable.
Rat67:
it’s a bloody sight harder driving lorries than buses so it should be taken as read that if you can drive a wagon, then a bloody bus is a walk in the park.
The actual driving yes buses are easier, but in my opinion I’d much rather deal with cages and pallets than gangs of drunk/high youngsters, junkies, Passengers in general and City Centre traffic all day every day, I find life as a trucker much less stressful and much more enjoyable.
The most honest and factual statement I’ve ever read on Tnet.
Rat67:
it’s a bloody sight harder driving lorries than buses so it should be taken as read that if you can drive a wagon, then a bloody bus is a walk in the park.
…I’d much rather deal with cages and pallets than gangs of drunk/high youngsters, junkies, Passengers in general and City Centre traffic all day every day…
Rat67:
it’s a bloody sight harder driving lorries than buses so it should be taken as read that if you can drive a wagon, then a bloody bus is a walk in the park.
…I’d much rather deal with cages and pallets than gangs of drunk/high youngsters, junkies, Passengers in general and City Centre traffic all day every day…
I can’t believe this question! Why haven’t any of the so called trainers explained this at the beginning of the course?
I always explain exactly what happens with the cards and ensure everyone knows where the card comes from, when it’ll be sent and everything else they need to know including current DVSA roadside enforcement practice etc
I suppose the trainer may have explained and the OP didn’t listen. I had one two weeks ago, explained everything at the beginning of the course and he didn’t ask any questions. He attend two courses. I uploaded both and both came back as INVALID which usually means a DQC is already issued.
I contacted him and asked - “Oh yes I’ve got a DQC. It arrived last year”. “Why did you attend two days training then?” “I thought I had to and they’d just sent me my DQC early”. “So have you’ve done some DCPC somewhere else?”. “Yes I did my ADR last year”. “You carry timber!?!?!” “Yeah - thought I’d just do an ADR course and FORGOT I’d done it”.
As already said - issue of the DQC is automatic and FREE (cost included in the £8.75 upload fee for each course). DVSA currently quoting wait 20 working days before contacting them but generally the card arrives in about 3 - 5 days from the last course depending on speed of upload.
m1cks:
SHEP, im interested that you say it came up invalid. I was under the impression that any further training I do goes towards my 2019-2024 total.
Only training done within the 5 years of the current expiry date on a DQC will count towards the next 5 years so for those with acquired rights who have completed 35 hours will not get any more to count until after 09/09/2014
Gembo:
Im looking forward to September when I can refuse to take the truck out and hang up the keys as my firm that employs 34’000 people has still yet to send me on my final 4 sessions!
technically you have made yourself unemployable as a driver, as by the regulations it is the driver responsibility to obtain the cpc not the companies to send you, so you might have a problem when they say bye bye chap and you go and try and sign on, just saying and not having a dig, so don’t take it the wrong way
That’s practically impossible as my proper job on paper is a team leader on the railway! I took my present job as a sideways move because no one else could do it at the time, its an internal job as it were, Im not a truck driver per sa, Im a teamleader with a C&E. if the worst came to the worst I’d just go back to grafting and managing guys on the track so driving a truck is not a big deal to me! Ive been on the railway for 20 years and il be there until they nail my lid on.
Okay, now I can clear this up. Got my DQC today and my LGV CPC expires in 2019, my bus & coach CPC still expires in 2016. So if you pass your LGV mod 4 after you qualified for PCV, you will get your full five years of LGV entitlements.
Could any of you clear up this one?I was talking to another driver about the DCPC waste of time and all the rest of the usual.I asked him have you got the card with you,he says no its at home.I told him that he must carry it at all times,he says he would have 7 days to produce it,so who is correct.?
m1cks:
SHEP, im interested that you say it came up invalid. I was under the impression that any further training I do goes towards my 2019-2024 total.
Only training done within the 5 years of the current expiry date on a DQC will count towards the next 5 years so for those with acquired rights who have completed 35 hours will not get any more to count until after 09/09/2014
^^^^This is true, those on Periodic Training cannot ‘bank’ or ‘carry over’ any training hours to count towards the next 35 hours. This effectively means once you have your DQC issued DO NOT do any more training until 5 years before expiry date (usually September 2019), so any training done between now & this September will not count towards next DQC. Although this maybe different for PCV drivers, who were given a 6 year ‘window’ from their 2019 expiry date, as they needed to have their cards before September 2013. But if in doubt…wait until this September to start your next 35 hours!!! Don’t waste your time in training sessions that will not count!!
Another similar problem is ‘newish’ licence holders attending Periodic Training that are not yet entitled to sit in attendance as they still haven’t passed Module 2 & Module 4 - cue a still common question “What’s Module 2 & Module 4■■?”…their hours will not be uploaded either (or ‘banked’). They must complete Mod.2 & 4 prior to attending Periodic Training.
