Got a phone call today from a new bod in the last agency I worked with on LGV C HIAB, she claimed that there’s a good opportunity for a long term, temp to perm for a man of my calibre starting at the end of the month !
After much poking & prodding for info she really wasn’t very good at keeping from me, it turns out that the job on offer is to cover my weeks holiday with my employer for the last 6mths 
Do these bottom feeding oxygen thieve’s think everyone’s as daft as a brush?
Cool story bro.
They are liars and any they say should be treated with suspicion, some examples
1.They asked for you in particular, nobody else will do it.
2.We can give you 5 days work a week, we will give you 3, 1 of those being a Saturday.
3.Can you go in straight away you’ll be doing me a big favor, see answer 1.
the question is though was the rate better than your on now■■?
Chas:
Got a phone call today from a new bod in the last agency I worked with on LGV C HIAB, she claimed that there’s a good opportunity for a long term, temp to perm for a man of my calibre starting at the end of the month !After much poking & prodding for info she really wasn’t very good at keeping from me, it turns out that the job on offer is to cover my weeks holiday with my employer for the last 6mths
Do these bottom feeding oxygen thieve’s think everyone’s as daft as a brush?
classic 
Chas:
Got a phone call today from a new bod in the last agency I worked with on LGV C HIAB, she claimed that there’s a good opportunity for a long term, temp to perm for a man of my calibre starting at the end of the month !After much poking & prodding for info she really wasn’t very good at keeping from me, it turns out that the job on offer is to cover my weeks holiday with my employer for the last 6mths
Do these bottom feeding oxygen thieve’s think everyone’s as daft as a brush?
Haver you looked at it from the other side? Mebbe your current job ain’t as secure as you’d like to think it is! 
I have always considered the agency my friend rather than my enemy.
with a friend like that you don’t need enemies
Can’t stand agency’s but I have to use them as not many full time jobs about my way.
After spending many years using ADR they have got new staff in the office and have started only given me 4 days a week . ADR are fighting to keep the contract I am on at the mo, I’m looking forward to tomorrow as I will be calling them up to tell them I have joined a long with others the rival agency that are getting the most of the work .
my enimes i fare not, haven protect me from my friends 
I personlly leand the true meaning of this once
Have you had a skinfull?
Winseer:
Have you had a skinfull?
I thought skin was waterproof - allegedly
Apologies in advance if this is a dumb-■■■ question 
… but I have always wondered how (and why) a firm can afford to pay an hourly rate to an agency which is enough for said agency to pay a third party, and at the same time cream off their own cut, but same co can only pay a driver who they employ direct, a fraction of the rate. I reckon agencies are one of, if not THE, reasons the job has turned to ■■■■ for the driver.Why not just kick the agencies to ■■■■, split the rate difference, and pay the driver a decent rate direct?
Because of other factors, such as pension contributions, NI, sick pay, holidays etc. and other HR related matters that you don’t have to worry with if you have no employed drivers.
robroy:
Apologies in advance if this is a dumb-■■■ question
Crack on, very good question.
I have personally known drivers who have been employed at one firm doing the same job for years on agency!
But there’s no money in haulage, yer know. Times is 'ard.
Maybe the whole business wants to look at material waste rather than cutting fat off the payroll all the time…
The waste in this industry, especially food, - is legendry!
Socketset:
robroy:
Apologies in advance if this is a dumb-■■■ questionCrack on, very good question.
I have personally known drivers who have been employed at one firm doing the same job for years on agency!
But there’s no money in haulage, yer know. Times is 'ard.
From one who’s been all three sides of the fence; agency driver, TM and recruitment consultant.
The simple answer is that agencies supply a genuine demand; despite what some on here will say . Hiring a driver through the agency saves the employer having to do his own recruiting, interviewing and firing ; the client pays one rate which covers all the costs as stated above by Interlog, and that list gets longer every year.
Until you’ve actually done it, you have no possible idea how much of a TM’s time can be taken up just recruiting one driver if you do the job properly. Back in the day, according to the knockers, it was indeed easy, you just turned up and were asked a few questions before being thrown a set of keys. Really? I’ve been in this trade 30 years and I’ve never had that happen to me, at least not as simply as that. Nowadays you’ve got to go through so much faff with contracts, risk assessments, inductions and training (not to mention DCPC) that agency recruitment is looking more attractive not less. Hire the wrong guy and you’re stuck with him; hence the attraction of temp-to-perm for many large companies.
The other primary advantage to a company using agency drivers is, quite simply, choice. If the agency sends you a muppet, you can not only get him replaced but in some cases get your money back off them… try doing that with a directly employed driver. If he don’t turn up, ditto. If he damages your vehicle and you’ve paid the relevant premium (often the reason why the charge rate is so high compared to pay rate) then you have cover. And same if the job gets cancelled by YOUR customer, you ain’t got to pay a man for doing nowt.
That same choice, BTW, is open to agency drivers as well. There’s a good few on here who earn an honest living doing it; I did meself for some years and if you’ve got the right attitude it can be a good life.
Chas:
After much poking & prodding for info she really wasn’t very good at keeping from me, it turns out that the job on offer is to cover my weeks holiday with my employer for the last 6mths
The thing is they think they are above you in every step of the way
They think they are more intelignet then you coz they went to uni and they are yupies and they work in an office and you are a dumb lorry driver
They know your a dumb lorry driver before they ever met you or have ever heard of you
To be honest most of them are as thick as… and are educated idiots with the light on but no one at home
its comes with experance spotting there text book lies that you know how early it is to walk away from them and say ■■■ holes
to be a good liar you have to have a good memory
and lets face it most of these recrutment consaltens are as thick as pig ■■■■
Sidevalve:
if you’ve got the right attitude it can be a good life.
oh how I laughed.
Aye the “right attitude”… of being happy to get trampled all over, treated with less respect than ■■■■, given all the worst jobs that the “regular guy” has refused to do, and paid a wage barely more than what a benefit scrounger sees.
Aye… a “good life” indeed
COOKiEEES!!:
Sidevalve:
if you’ve got the right attitude it can be a good life.
oh how I laughed.
Aye the “right attitude”… of being happy to get trampled all over, treated with less respect than [zb], given all the worst jobs that the “regular guy” has refused to do, and paid a wage barely more than what a benefit scrounger sees.
Aye… a “good life” indeed
Accepting nazisum with the right attitude simply coz you have no other choise
Well its easyer to pretend it dontexiste then it dose
so keep your heads up your asses boys and keep sucking those ring ding dings for the big mob coz it dont rely existe