The bottom line is that Simon could be driving through your town at 36 to 38 mph and it could be your wife/kid/grandchild or any number of other loved ones that in a moment of forgetfullness steps out from behind a parked car…
would you rather he was doing 30mph ( or less ) when he hits them or the 36 to 38 mph that he prefers to travel at.
I’ve not got a problem with drivers getting a move on on the " national speed limit " A roads as long as they don’t expect me to speed up just because I am sticking to the speed limit and slowing them down. I have no problem with drivers doing 55 on a dual carriageway. The point is that 30 mph limits are in built up areas where there is a significant danger of coming across a pedestrian who is maybe not taking the care he/she should be and if you hit them at higher speeds they are more likely to die. Simon wants to be able to drive at an excessive speed under these circumstances. How would you feel if he killed one of your family and I would also ask how Simon would feel ■■? Is it worth the risk speeding in 30mph limits ■■? I don’t think so and never did even when I was prepared to push it along as fast as possible on A roads.
Willy Gofar:
The bottom line is that Simon could be driving through your town at 36 to 38 mph and it could be your wife/kid/grandchild or any number of other loved ones that in a moment of forgetfullness steps out from behind a parked car…
would you rather he was doing 30mph ( or less ) when he hits them or the 36 to 38 mph that he prefers to travel at.
Thanks for that thought. Did I say anywhere that I “prefer” to travel at 36 to 38mph in a 30mph zone. No I didn’t, so get your facts straight…
Willy Gofar:
The point is that 30 mph limits are in built up areas where there is a significant danger of coming across a pedestrian who is maybe not taking the care he/she should be and if you hit them at higher speeds they are more likely to die. Simon wants to be able to drive at an excessive speed under these circumstances. How would you feel if he killed one of your family and I would also ask how Simon would feel ■■? Is it worth the risk speeding in 30mph limits ■■? I don’t think so and never did even when I was prepared to push it along as fast as possible on A roads.
Well that’s a pretty good character assassination that you done there, thanks very much. For your information I do not “want to be able to drive at excessive speed”. I have admitted that on occasions my speed drifts above the limit in 30mph zones (like many other people I’m sure). Yes I was a little distracted at the moment in question and perhaps my concentration isn’t the best. However, I do over 30k private miles per year and have 10 years no claims so I am not constantly having accidents and would consider myself generally a safe driver.
As stated previously I can do without do gooders moralising about how terrible my behaviour is, I’m not proud of it OK■■?
Simon71:
As stated previously I can do without do gooders moralising about how terrible my behaviour is, I’m not proud of it OK■■?
I believe that you do not want to go over the limits.
Try that gentle routine I mentioned earlier for a day or so and see how you get on with it
I don’t know if what I am about to mention can be retro fitted -
I was in a car some time ago and the driver had the option of setting an audible warning for various speed limits by pressing a button - it did not prevent the vehicle from going over the set limit but warned him when he got to 2 mph over it - I think it came with a GPS system …
I think I saw the same thing on one of those bad driver programmes where some posh bird kept deliberately going over the limit
Willy Gofar:
The bottom line is that Simon could be driving through your town at 36 to 38 mph and it could be your wife/kid/grandchild or any number of other loved ones that in a moment of forgetfullness steps out from behind a parked car…
would you rather he was doing 30mph ( or less ) when he hits them or the 36 to 38 mph that he prefers to travel at.
Thanks for that thought. Did I say anywhere that I “prefer” to travel at 36 to 38mph in a 30mph zone. No I didn’t, so get your facts straight…
Willy Gofar:
The point is that 30 mph limits are in built up areas where there is a significant danger of coming across a pedestrian who is maybe not taking the care he/she should be and if you hit them at higher speeds they are more likely to die. Simon wants to be able to drive at an excessive speed under these circumstances. How would you feel if he killed one of your family and I would also ask how Simon would feel ■■? Is it worth the risk speeding in 30mph limits ■■? I don’t think so and never did even when I was prepared to push it along as fast as possible on A roads.
Well that’s a pretty good character assassination that you done there, thanks very much. For your information I do not “want to be able to drive at excessive speed”. I have admitted that on occasions my speed drifts above the limit in 30mph zones (like many other people I’m sure). Yes I was a little distracted at the moment in question and perhaps my concentration isn’t the best. However, I do over 30k private miles per year and have 10 years no claims so I am not constantly having accidents and would consider myself generally a safe driver.
As stated previously I can do without do gooders moralising about how terrible my behaviour is, I’m not proud of it OK■■?
In answer to point 1, you said, " I find it difficult keeping to 30mph, I’m not a boy racer - it’s usually 36 - 38 mph but twice in 10 months isn’t not good. So that’s why I need a bit of help. ". Seems to me whether you want to or not you drive at 36 to 38 mph in a 30 zone, you may not have said you prefer to drive at that speed but you certainly don’t appear to want to drive at 30mph.
In answer to point 2, I think you assassinated your own character long before I got to make a valid comment. If you cannot even stick to the speed limit in 30 zones then maybe you need professional help or to stop driving.
In answer to your comment about moralising do gooders if I felt as bad as you say you do about your behaviour I wouldn’t have come on a public forum and owned up to it, I’d have tried to curb my behaviour myself. You know what you have to do to feel better, stick to the speed limit. Simples.
Dazza:
I wonder if he’s passed the advanced driving test, like Rog and the sheep fella.
After all, he comes across as the big IAM!
Thanks Dazza
I think you’ll find that I take each on it’s own merits as one size don’t fit all and in this case it does seem that the driver is having problems in keeping to the limit.
Finding the cause of that problem and helping the driver to address it seems, to me, the best course of action.
This problem is one that I come across on a regular basis when I do the initial assessments on new AD associates.
Coddy:
If you , are doing 34 in a 30, and someone walks out into your path from behind a parked van, you muller them, who is at fault??
I would ask the questions -
Was it possible for the driver to anticipate that the pedestrian might do that?
Did the pedestrian take all possible safety precautions?
Only after those 2 questions are answered could a determination be made.
Once the determination has been made then the factors that caused the damage would be taken into account - ie the speed, position etc
It could be that the main factor was the vehicle driving too close to the parked van and the speed, unless really excessive, had little to do with it.
Coddy:
Bear in mind there is no such thing as an accident, someone somehow will be at fault…
The way to determine whether or not it was an accident is to ask - could one or more involved have reasonably prevented it
If, for example, the driver, who was keeping a reasonable safe distance from the parked vehicle, could not see the pedestrian at all until they emerged from behind the parked van, then the driver is not to blame.
If the pedestrian took no reasonable precautions and simply walked (or ran) into the path of the moving vehicle and perhaps was killed then that would be the fault of the pedestrian and probably be deemed as accidental death or death by misadveture.
Strange how it could be accidental death if the pedestrian was killed and to blame but not if it was the drivers fault
Once Willy gets his teeth into a subject then no reasoning with him or persuading him otherwise.
I wonder if he’s passed the advanced driving test, like Rog and the sheep fella.
After all, he comes across as the big IAM!
Dazza, I have been a member since 2003 like you, ( actually joined long before then but I think we all got wiped and had to rejoin ) like you I rarely post on here at all. As to not being able to persuade me or reason with me once I’ve got my teeth into something I am not sure what evidence you base that on.
As for Simon he came on here admitting that he can’t stick to the 30mph limit and later admitted to not feeling proud of his behaviour. So why did he ask for advice on a device that would help him continue the behaviour he isn’t proud of but save him from further speeding tickets rather than ask for help and advice on how to condition himself to sticking to the speed limit ■■?
As to your question, no I haven’t passed the Advanced Driving test, I consider myself to be nothing more than an average driver who makes the occasional mistake which is why when others make mistakes and make life difficult for me I don’t resort to the horn, the other driver probably feels bad enough about the mistake anyway without me blasting away at him/her.
I know that there is such a thing as a police radar jammer, they reviewed it on Fifth Gear, its disguised as a automatic garage opener but it actually blocks police lasers and gives the police an error code and they are none the wiser.
Willy Gofar:
Dazza, I have been a member since 2003 like you, ( actually joined long before then but I think we all got wiped and had to rejoin ) like you I rarely post on here at all. As to not being able to persuade me or reason with me once I’ve got my teeth into something I am not sure what evidence you base that on.
You’re right Willy. I myself started posting in 2002 and we were all wiped off when Trucknet started using php-style bulletin boards the following year. Incidentally, I’m flattered that you felt the need to check out my background, but I’m not sure what relevance it has to the topic.
Also, When you’ve posted over five-hundred times, you can hardly say
“I rarely post on here”.
Willy Gofar:
As for Simon he came on here admitting that he can’t stick to the 30mph limit and later admitted to not feeling proud of his behaviour. So why did he ask for advice on a device that would help him continue the behaviour he isn’t proud of but save him from further speeding tickets rather than ask for help and advice on how to condition himself to sticking to the speed limit ■■?
This is Simon’s topic (80-odd postings to your 500 plus) and my point was that you were throwing your weight around. Rather than giving him advice, or even disagreeing with him you were picking him up on “points of order”. Criticise me if you want, but in my opinion the topic has now run its’ course, it is going round in circles and I think Simon’s had his original question answered, to which I hope I’ve contributed.
Dazza, I didn’t check your background I just looked at the number of postings by your name.
As regards the number of posts I think it works out at around 1 every 4 days but in truth I will probably post several times on one topic and then not post anything for weeks.
You are probably right in your view that tis topic has gone on long enough so topic closed as far as I’m concerned.
Still think he should try sticking to the speed limit though in 30 zones.
