dieseldave:
the flying foden:
renewing my ADR this week as well. so far so good enjoying it which is something i don’t normally do with the ADR coursea lad from Ellesmere port teaching it
Hi FF,
Which training provider is running your course?
a northern irish lad called Trevor . real nice bloke used to work at shell . think he as taken over now shell bob passed away .
sorry Dave the training provider is transhead in stoke
dieseldave:
CHRIS27:
I did my core, tanks and class 3, I had to take all of these to get my 5 years, my packages was up dec 2013Hi Chris,
It looks like you decided to scrap your present certificate and start all over again.
Yea Dave pretty sure the packages will be gone now, but I never needed it anyway.
Hopefully i’ve passed i have to wait 2 weeks to find out though !
the flying foden:
renewing my ADR this week as well. so far so good enjoying it which is something i don’t normally do with the ADR course
That had me going for a while…
I spent today looking at this week’s victims (I mean… candidates 
) and was wondering which one of them hadn’t let on. 
dieseldave:
the flying foden:
renewing my ADR this week as well. so far so good enjoying it which is something i don’t normally do with the ADR courseThat had me going for a while…
I spent today looking at this week’s victims (I mean… candidates
we did have a chat at the Cannock get together so you may of remembered be from there . transhead is local to me ans run a excellent course
the flying foden:
dieseldave:
the flying foden:
renewing my ADR this week as well. so far so good enjoying it which is something i don’t normally do with the ADR courseThat had me going for a while…
I spent today looking at this week’s victims (I mean… candidates
we did have a chat at the Cannock get together so you may of remembered be from there .
Hi FF,
Yes mate, I remember, but I’ve had a kip since then and I do meet a lot of people. 
the flying foden:
transhead is local to me ans run a excellent course
Transed are one of the providers that I’d have no hesitation recommending, and that’s even though I haven’t had any dealings with them. They have an excellent reputation in the dangerous goods training industry.
Ah well, just the last knockings of the tanker module to do tomorrow, then I can head home in the Friday evening traffic. 
My adr licence is up for renewal.
Anybody no the approx cost for renewal?
Deeireland:
My adr licence is up for renewal.
Anybody no the approx cost for renewal?
Are you wanting just the less expensive short very intensive renewal or the more expensive relaxed full course 
Are you looking for DCPC hours as well
renewal gets 7
full gets 21
Just the renewal rog ,with as much dcpc hours as possible.also might get the explosives and radioactive classes .
Class 1 (explosives) and Class 7 (radioactive) each require a one day course, which you have to take for initial issue and at renewal. Obviously, you also need to have passed the Core and at least one Mode (Other than Tanks, Tanks).
My impression is that there is very little work requiring Class 1 or Class 7, but others may know differently.
Edit to add: as DieselDave has spotted, deeireland might be asking about other than the UK. The answer above is for the UK - other ADR certificate issuing jurisdictions may have different rules.
Deeireland:
Just the renewal rog ,with as much dcpc hours as possible.also might get the explosives and radioactive classes .
Hi Deeireland,
I’ve spotted your username, … so I have to ask whether you’re going to do your course in Eire, NI or UK mainland?
I can only give advice on the last one though, because the first two have rules that are different to ours on the mainland.
djw:
Class 1 (explosives) and Class 7 (radioactive) each require a one day course, which you have to take for initial issue and at renewal. Obviously, you also need to have passed the Core and at least one Mode (Other than Tanks, Tanks).My impression is that there is very little work requiring Class 1 or Class 7, but others may know differently.
Hi djw,
There is a refresher option for Classes 1 and 7, which is approx half a day for each one.
Having said that, my advice is that the exam pass rates for candidates taking initial courses seems to be higher than for those taking refresher courses, probably due to the required speed of delivery coupled with companies not keeping their drivers up-to-date when things change.
The unexpired portion of the present ADR licence is ADDED to the 5-year validity of the new ADR licence in exactly the same way, provided that it’s done within the last year of validity, but NOT within the last 5 weeks. If a candidate fits those criteria, then they should identify themselves to the instructor right at the start of the course so that the right boxes can be ticked by the office staff at the time of candidate registration to SQA on day #1 of the course.
dieseldave:
There is a refresher option for Classes 1 and 7, which is approx half a day for each one.
My apologies for leaving this out - it was ‘brain fade’ on my part.
The problem might be finding somewhere offering the refresher if you are not working for a company where there are enough drivers needing Class 1 or Class 7 to make it worthwhile for the company to arrange an on-site refresher course.
There are not that many initial Class 1 and initial Class 7 courses advertised. I don’t recall seeing any adverts for refresher Class 1 or Class 7 courses (though I might have missed them). This could well be something to do with driver CPC, as you suggest.
If you are paying for your own training and need to sort out your own periodic driver CPC training, an initial Class 1 or Class 7 course that gives you 7 hours of driver CPC hours might be better value (in terms of total financial outlay and time commitment) than a half day refresher Class 1 or Class 7 course that gives you no driver CPC hours.
You might struggle to fit any any other work on a day with half a day of training, so you’ll need a day off for a refresher. You’ll save a bit of money for the refresher course, but will get no driver CPC hours from it. It is probably better to pay a bit more for the training, improve your chances of passing the exam and get 7 driver CPC hours from your day off.
You are in a much better position than I to advise on pass rates, dieseldave, and I defer to your experience.
djw:
dieseldave:
There is a refresher option for Classes 1 and 7, which is approx half a day for each one.My apologies for leaving this out - it was ‘brain fade’ on my part.
Hi djw,
In all fairness to you, you’d only be expected to know that kind of stuff if you were a provider, or experienced instructor.
djw:
The problem might be finding somewhere offering the refresher if you are not working for a company where there are enough drivers needing Class 1 or Class 7 to make it worthwhile for the company to arrange an on-site refresher course.
This is exactly the problem… I only ever get asked by one or two people, and they only rarely ask!
To get a balance here, I’m a freelance instructor and DGSA, so I don’t have a website like an ADR provider would have whereby people might make enquiries and look at forthcoming courses etc.
djw:
There are not that many initial Class 1 and initial Class 7 courses advertised. I don’t recall seeing any adverts for refresher Class 1 or Class 7 courses (though I might have missed them). This could well be something to do with driver CPC, as you suggest.
DCPC isn’t available for UN Classes 1 and 7, as initial or refresher because JAUPT says that those courses are too specialised.
However, this has just given me an idea.
djw:
If you are paying for your own training and need to sort out your own periodic driver CPC training, an initial Class 1 or Class 7 course that gives you 7 hours of driver CPC hours might be better value (in terms of total financial outlay and time commitment) than a half day refresher Class 1 or Class 7 course that gives you no driver CPC hours.
If a candidate wishes to take UN Class 1 (for example a driver who works for a quarry or a pyrotechnics company,) SQA requirements are that he’d need to do the ADR Core module (1.5 days) and the Class 1 module (1 full day.) 7hrs DCPC can be obtained for this.
I’ve run that course before, but I split the Class 1 module at mid point so that the whole thing is 2.5 days in total with no wasted gap in the middle.
djw:
You might struggle to fit any any other work on a day with half a day of training, so you’ll need a day off for a refresher. You’ll save a bit of money for the refresher course, but will get no driver CPC hours from it. It is probably better to pay a bit more for the training, improve your chances of passing the exam and get 7 driver CPC hours from your day off.
Agreed, but there is a JAUPT option to split a 7hr ‘chunk’ into 2 X 3.5hrs on consecutive days, which does help some drivers who work ‘odd’ shifts.
djw:
You are in a much better position than I to advise on pass rates, dieseldave, and I defer to your experience.
Since I’m not a provider, I don’t have access to any provider’s SQA logon details to check hard facts for myself, so I’m only giving my impression and opinion here with only anecdotal stories from drivers to back it up.
dieseldave:
Deeireland:
Just the renewal rog ,with as much dcpc hours as possible.also might get the explosives and radioactive classes .Hi Deeireland,
I’ve spotted your username, … so I have to ask whether you’re going to do your course in Eire, NI or UK mainland?
I can only give advice on the last one though, because the first two have rules that are different to ours on the mainland.
Hi dd
It will be done in ni.what are the different rules for the different jurisdictions ?
Is it just admin differences?
Deeireland:
dieseldave:
I can only give advice on the last one though, because the first two have rules that are different to ours on the mainland.Hi dd
It will be done in ni.what are the different rules for the different jurisdictions ?
Is it just admin differences?
Sorry mate, I’ve really no idea of the system in NI, so anything I wrote about it would be worthless. 
sqa.org.uk/files_ccc/Dangero … e_2009.pdf
That highlights a few differences but not sure if anything is useful …
