ADR Licence

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dieseldave:

djw:
If you want full five year validity, you can take an ADR refresher course and add the tanks module at the same time, which renews everything for five years.

Sorry djw, that’s not quite correct.
Nobody can add a new module when sitting a refresher course, because the refresher course assumes prior knowledge and is done in approx half of the normal time.
A candidate can add a new module if they sit an initial course as a refresher candidate though.
That way, they get the additional module, they lose no entitlement and the learning is at a sensible pace.

Sorry - that was a really crummy piece of description on my part - I was abbreviating too much.

What I was meaning was do a refresher on what he already has, then do the tanker module straight away to give a five year validity on everything. As you say, you can’t refresh what you don’t already have - I was looking for the way to add the 1.5 days of tanker module at the cheapest ‘per year valid’ cost.

As it happens, this option looks silly - there’s little point refreshing classes 2 and 3 in packages, then adding tankers (assuming that, by ignoring the class 1, it would just go away).

The two most sensible options appear to be the next available tanker module or, assuming that his current class 1 entitlement isn’t going to foul this up, a full five day course.

Next available tanker module sorts things out quickly until December 2013.

Full five day course gives five year validity, tankers, some additional classes that may be useful in civvy street and potentially 21 or 28 DCPC hours. I’m continuing to assume that Chris has no use for class 1 in civvy street.

If, as Chris is suggesting in his latest post, the company will pay for any renewal, the best thing is to get booked on the next available tanker module to sort out his current problem. No LGV driver will need to complete 35 DCPC hours before September 2014 (unless they are also a PCV driver who needs to meet the September 2013 deadline). The option would therefore be option to renew by taking a full five day ADR course, gain the potentially useful classes 4/5/6/8/9 by going down the ‘common characteristics’ route rather than separate classes 2 and 3, gain some DCPC hours, and let class 1 lapse unless there’s still a need for it.

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djw:

dieseldave:

djw:
If you want full five year validity, you can take an ADR refresher course and add the tanks module at the same time, which renews everything for five years.

Sorry djw, that’s not quite correct.
Nobody can add a new module when sitting a refresher course, because the refresher course assumes prior knowledge and is done in approx half of the normal time.
A candidate can add a new module if they sit an initial course as a refresher candidate though.
That way, they get the additional module, they lose no entitlement and the learning is at a sensible pace.

Sorry - that was a really crummy piece of description on my part - I was abbreviating too much.

Hi djw,

i didn’t think that you’d have got that wrong, so I assumed it was a typo. :smiley:

djw:
What I was meaning was do a refresher on what he already has, then do the tanker module straight away to give a five year validity on everything. As you say, you can’t refresh what you don’t already have - I was looking for the way to add the 1.5 days of tanker module at the cheapest ‘per year valid’ cost.

That’s a ‘creative’ solution, but perfectly OK within the rules

djw:
As it happens, this option looks silly - there’s little point refreshing classes 2 and 3 in packages, then adding tankers (assuming that, by ignoring the class 1, it would just go away).

The Class one would remain valid until a new Core module is completed and the exam passed.
Otherwise, it would simply lapse in due course.

djw:
The two most sensible options appear to be the next available tanker module or, assuming that his current class 1 entitlement isn’t going to foul this up, a full five day course.

It is possible to take a UN Class 1 refresher, and it needs just half a day.

djw:
Next available tanker module sorts things out quickly until December 2013.

Given Chris’ remaining validity, I think I’d go for this route.

djw:
Full five day course gives five year validity, tankers, some additional classes that may be useful in civvy street and potentially 21 or 28 DCPC hours. I’m continuing to assume that Chris has no use for class 1 in civvy street.

Again, I’d say that this is a good option.
The UN Class 1 is useful for quarry work, demolition work or carrying the larger types of fireworks.
apart from those, there’s not that much call for it.

djw:
If, as Chris is suggesting in his latest post, the company will pay for any renewal, the best thing is to get booked on the next available tanker module to sort out his current problem. No LGV driver will need to complete 35 DCPC hours before September 2014 (unless they are also a PCV driver who needs to meet the September 2013 deadline). The option would therefore be option to renew by taking a full five day ADR course, gain the potentially useful classes 4/5/6/8/9 by going down the ‘common characteristics’ route rather than separate classes 2 and 3, gain some DCPC hours, and let class 1 lapse unless there’s still a need for it.

Another very fair point, but one common problem I’ve encountered is that there’s a growing number of companies that will only pay for the ADR modules for which they have a direct use.

:bulb: In that situation, a wise driver could always pay a bit more and get the other modules done and out of the way for just in case they’re needed at a later date. :wink:

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Update! Turns out I didn’t do the tanks module! Haha… So basically been driving a 14000 litre class 2 oil lorry for a few years with the wrong licence, obviously my last 2 employers did not check it even though they took photocopys of it!

So I’ve booked myself onto a 3 day tanker course starting Friday and phoned the employer, he seemed happy enough and said give him a phone back after i’ve finished the course

Thanks for the replies :slight_smile:

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CHRIS27:
Update! Turns out I didn’t do the tanks module! Haha… So basically been driving a 14000 litre class 2 oil lorry for a few years with the wrong licence, obviously my last 2 employers did not check it even though they took photocopys of it!

So I’ve booked myself onto a 3 day tanker course starting Friday and phoned the employer, he seemed happy enough and said give him a phone back after i’ve finished the course

Thanks for the replies :slight_smile:

Hi Chris,

If you’re doing a civvy tanker module, it should only take 1.5 days, or are you adding some extra UN Classes at the same time??

BTW, most civvy ADR providers start their tanker module on a Thursday, usually just after lunch.
That means that you’re usually done and dusted by about 3pm on the Friday afternoon.

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Not sure Dave, the lady in the office told me it’s 3 days fri/sat/sun and the cost is £300 I told her I already have packages but I’ll just double check on friday morning, I don’t pay anything until friday anyway so I’ll just make sure

Thanks

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CHRIS27:
Not sure Dave, the lady in the office told me it’s 3 days fri/sat/sun and the cost is £300 I told her I already have packages but I’ll just double check on friday morning, I don’t pay anything until friday anyway so I’ll just make sure

Thanks

Hi Chris,

IMHO £300 is far too expensive for ‘just’ a tanker module. :open_mouth: :open_mouth:

You should be able to get some change out of £150 for that mate, so I really would ask the provider for a clarification.

Just so we’re clear on an important point… The tanker module is a “stand alone” module and can defo be taken on its own, provided that you have the ADR certificate that you described in your earlier post. (I don’t doubt you. :wink: )

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1 silly question, is your adr about to expire?

It’s just you say that you’ve done 3-4 years on tankers on this adr licence?

Might be worth sitting the lot and getting some dCPC hours in?

Not sure if they’re aloud to overlap?? I’ve only recently done my adr, so no idea on renewals etc, it just lit a bulb in my head reading your post.

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Completed the tanker module yesterday and class 3, hopefully I passed! Also got 7 hours cpc done , the total was £310 for all that, I still have packages until dec 2013 but i’m not sure if it will still be valid now? I don’t need it anyway and sitting in a classroom for 3 days was enough! :slight_smile:

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CHRIS27:
Completed the tanker module yesterday and class 3, hopefully I passed! Also got 7 hours cpc done , the total was £310 for all that, I still have packages until dec 2013 but i’m not sure if it will still be valid now? I don’t need it anyway and sitting in a classroom for 3 days was enough! :slight_smile:

CHRIS27:
The whole left side is crossed out, and on the right hand side the 123 are not crossed out.

I thought you already had Class 3?

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I had class 1,2,3 in packages only

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CHRIS27:
I had class 1,2,3 in packages only

So, surely you didn’t need to take class 3 again then? Just the tanker module?

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waynedl:

CHRIS27:
I had class 1,2,3 in packages only

So, surely you didn’t need to take class 3 again then? Just the tanker module?

There is a class 3 tanker module, it is the one the petrol tanker drivers use, they don’t need, 1, 2, 4.1, 4.2 5, 6.1 6.2, 8 or 9

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waynedl:

CHRIS27:
I had class 1,2,3 in packages only

So, surely you didn’t need to take class 3 again then? Just the tanker module?

Class 3 tanker module

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Wheel Nut:

waynedl:

CHRIS27:
I had class 1,2,3 in packages only

So, surely you didn’t need to take class 3 again then? Just the tanker module?

There is a class 3 tanker module, it is the one the petrol tanker drivers use, they don’t need, 1, 2, 4.1, 4.2 5, 6.1 6.2, 8 or 9

But if you already have class 3, and then sit a tanker module, does that not automatically give you class 3 tanker?

I did everything together, so no idea how it was seperated.

£300 quid sound like a lot though, not much cheaper than the full lot really.

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CHRIS27:

waynedl:

CHRIS27:
I had class 1,2,3 in packages only

So, surely you didn’t need to take class 3 again then? Just the tanker module?

Class 3 tanker module

Chris,

There is no such thing as a “Class 3 tanker module,” they are two separate modules.

If somebody needed to get an ADR licence (from scratch) for Class 3 and tankers, they would need to do:
Core module (exam 001) 1.5 days tuition
Tanker module (exam 002) 1.5 days tuition
UN Class 3 module (exam 006) 1.5hrs tuition.

Exam timings
001 = 40mins
002 = 30mins
006 = 25mins

You said that your ADR licence was valid for packages and Classes 1, 2 and 3.
I’ve no reason to doubt you, so then all you needed was an additional tanker module that takes 1.5 days and you can get that at most providers for around £150, and cheaper still at some other providers.

It’s your party mate, but Somebody is misinformed. :exclamation: :exclamation:

Chris… how many separate exam papers did you sit??

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dieseldave:

CHRIS27:

waynedl:

CHRIS27:
I had class 1,2,3 in packages only

So, surely you didn’t need to take class 3 again then? Just the tanker module?

Class 3 tanker module

Chris,

There is no such thing as a “Class 3 tanker module,” they are two separate modules.

If somebody needed to get an ADR licence (from scratch) for Class 3 and tankers, they would need to do:
Core module (exam 001) 1.5 days tuition
Tanker module (exam 002) 1.5 days tuition
UN Class 3 module (exam 006) 1.5hrs tuition.

Exam timings
001 = 40mins
002 = 30mins
006 = 25mins

You said that your ADR licence was valid for packages and Classes 1, 2 and 3.
I’ve no reason to doubt you, so then all you needed was an additional tanker module that takes 1.5 days and you can get that at most providers for around £150, and cheaper still at some other providers.

It’s your party mate, but Somebody is misinformed. :exclamation: :exclamation:

Chris… how many separate exam papers did you sit??

YAY, sounds like I learnt something :laughing: :sunglasses:

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renewing my ADR this week as well. so far so good enjoying it which is something i don’t normally do with the ADR course :laughing: a lad from Ellesmere port teaching it :slight_smile:

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I did my core, tanks and class 3, I had to take all of these to get my 5 years, my packages was up dec 2013

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CHRIS27:
I did my core, tanks and class 3, I had to take all of these to get my 5 years, my packages was up dec 2013

Hi Chris,

It looks like you decided to scrap your present certificate and start all over again.

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the flying foden:
renewing my ADR this week as well. so far so good enjoying it which is something i don’t normally do with the ADR course :laughing: a lad from Ellesmere port teaching it :slight_smile:

Hi FF,

Which training provider is running your course?