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muckles:
Not sure where this idea that manuals have been banned has come from, you can spec a manual, when I’ve looked around for secondhand trucks you do find quite a few manual Daf’s around, but very rarely see a late used manual FH.

A manual is banned in the sense of Fuller v I shift.IE unlike America you can’t have a Volvo with a 13/18 speed Fuller in it because the EU banned them.The excuse of excessive noise obviously being bs in that case which just leaves the fear that Fritz and/or Bjorg couldn’t handle a proper box when descending the mountains. :smiling_imp: :unamused: :laughing:

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Juddian:

stevieboy308:

Juddian:
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You always seem to want to be stuck in the past! Unless you’ve got hold of the reigns and feeding the horse, then you’re not a proper trucker, eh?!

Maybe, yes i do prefer the old ways, like honour integrity morals and courtesy in people, back in the days when a man’s word meant something, as well as the old ways we used to do the job.

However, there’s another side to this, and i’m a little surprised that it should need expanding.

I can’t be the only one who realises that the end game in all this progress is the removal of the driver from the lorry, or at the very least a minimising of the number of skilled drivers needed to do the job, there will always be a certain amount of hands on whatever they do, but they are trying their best to make the vehicles more or less drive themselves.

Why are drivers welcome this automating of their job, it’s aimed at dumbing the job down so any bugger can sit in a lorry and point the thing, and when any bugger can do it any bugger does do it, no shortage of any buggers so the job can be low paid.
As stated a few posts above a few days course followed by a quick test and hey presto one fully skilled lorry driver hits the road.

The blokes earning well now in the transport game are doing jobs that they can’t automate and still require some nous, the vast bulk of lorry jobs though have become chauffering and little, else.
This is what so many wanted, and up to a point i understand it, but you have to look further than a ■■■■ easy job you are doing now and try to see whats coming next.

Yes the job was harder in years gone by, it was a bloody sight harder still 30 years before i started too, but i believe we’ve gone too far in welcoming what they tell us we need.

I don’t expect much agreement with this view, but hopefully it will give you an insight why i say what i do about not being too keen on things that make our job easier (only they don’t), they aint doing it to make our lives easier or any other benevolent reason, they’re doing it to make it easier to get any cheaply bought and trained sod off the street and onto that seat behind the wheel.

+1

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the nodding donkey:

mucker85:
These bloody modern drivers just have to turn a key to start their trucks, bring back the starting handle I say.

Pah, starting handle? You were lucky. We had to park 't truck on 't hill, facing downhill, with a brick under 't wheel…

:sunglasses:

We still do :smiley:

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Lorries are getting to be like mobile phones and computer games, the lorry of today is the best thing since sliced bread, two years later it’s obsolete.

Residuals won’t enter the equation soon as the lorry will, like a phone or computer, have a built in lifetime, once it’s reached that point it will be nothing more than junk.

Back in my TRUCK days I remember a conversation with a bod from IVECO, was saying that the lorry of the future would have a service life of three years and then be worn out. slightly ironic really as IVECO already produced a disposable lorry in the eyes of some lol.

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Carryfast:

muckles:
Not sure where this idea that manuals have been banned has come from, you can spec a manual, when I’ve looked around for secondhand trucks you do find quite a few manual Daf’s around, but very rarely see a late used manual FH.

A manual is banned in the sense of Fuller v I shift.IE unlike America you can’t have a Volvo with a 13/18 speed Fuller in it because the EU banned them.The excuse of excessive noise obviously being bs in that case which just leaves the fear that Fritz and/or Bjorg couldn’t handle a proper box when descending the mountains. :smiling_imp: :unamused: :laughing:

GOD BLESS 'MERICA! LAND OF GUNS, FAST FOOD AND NOISY GEARBOXES.

#Carryfast2016 #MakingTrucksGreatAgain

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switchlogic:

Carryfast:

muckles:
Not sure where this idea that manuals have been banned has come from, you can spec a manual, when I’ve looked around for secondhand trucks you do find quite a few manual Daf’s around, but very rarely see a late used manual FH.

A manual is banned in the sense of Fuller v I shift.IE unlike America you can’t have a Volvo with a 13/18 speed Fuller in it because the EU banned them.The excuse of excessive noise obviously being bs in that case which just leaves the fear that Fritz and/or Bjorg couldn’t handle a proper box when descending the mountains. :smiling_imp: :unamused: :laughing:

GOD BLESS 'MERICA! LAND OF GUNS, FAST FOOD AND NOISY GEARBOXES.

#Carryfast2016 #MakingTrucksGreatAgain

Was going to say it was in answer to Carryfast, I gave up with responding to him when he started to go rant on with his anti German rhetoric, and anti Swedish by the looks of it. Considering the topography of the relative countries compared to the pimples that count as mountains in the UK, I’d suggest that they have a far better idea of hill descents than many British drivers, I can only assume that Carryfast got his truck down Reigate hill and therefore he’s now an expert in mountain driving.

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switchlogic:
GOD BLESS 'MERICA! LAND OF NOISY GEARBOXES.

To be fair some say the I shift is just an automated Fuller which suddenly and conveniently all seems fine in that case for some reason. :smiling_imp: :laughing:

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muckles:
Was going to say it was in answer to Carryfast, I gave up with responding to him when he started to go rant on with his anti German rhetoric, and anti Swedish by the looks of it. Considering the topography of the relative countries compared to the pimples that count as mountains in the UK, I’d suggest that they have a far better idea of hill descents than many British drivers,

But it was mainly the Swedes and ze Germans who mostly saw a need for synchro boxes for some reason and not the Brits or the rest of the English speaking world. :bulb: :smiling_imp: :laughing:

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Carryfast:

muckles:
Was going to say it was in answer to Carryfast, I gave up with responding to him when he started to go rant on with his anti German rhetoric, and anti Swedish by the looks of it. Considering the topography of the relative countries compared to the pimples that count as mountains in the UK, I’d suggest that they have a far better idea of hill descents than many British drivers,

But it was mainly the Swedes and ze Germans who mostly saw a need for synchro boxes for some reason and not the Brits or the rest of the English speaking world. :bulb: :smiling_imp: :laughing:

Yup and what an awful mistake on their part. Not like the biggest truck manufacturers in the world are German and Swedish is it… :smiley:

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switchlogic:
Yup and what an awful mistake on their part. Not like the biggest truck manufacturers in the world are German and Swedish is it… :smiley:

Swedish but obviously using a supposedly noisy automated Fuller not automated Volvo synchro.Together with the option of a 13/18 speed manual in other parts of the English speaking world. :wink: :laughing:

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You should laminate your Grattan catalogue Geoffrey

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Carryfast:

switchlogic:
Yup and what an awful mistake on their part. Not like the biggest truck manufacturers in the world are German and Swedish is it… :smiley:

Swedish but obviously using a supposedly noisy automated Fuller not automated Volvo synchro.Together with the option of a 13/18 speed manual in other parts of the English speaking world. :wink: :laughing:

#Woosh