Doesn’t seem to be any details on why the Porsche driver was potentially in such as rush as 120mph over a solid white in the pouring rain is the sort of thing you only see in the most out of control police pursuits where the perp wants to get away at any cost?
What an absolute [emoji931][emoji773]
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Twerps like that never ever manage to ram a fully loaded 44 tonner up the arse or a multi wheeled mobile crane block of steel, its always some poor innocent who suffers for their stupidity.
That video of his overtaking stunt is bad enough, any footage of the carnage would be dreadful.
Shame he didn’t live to be left with crippling injuries and to be banged up for Manslaughter !!
i absolutely would be in favour of a capable driver driving aggressively as i tend to do it myself but he seems to be absolutely on a mission of self destruction.
strange how there was no mention of a possible reason like his kid or misses dying in hospital or something.
as usual the report just works from exactly the same ray of sunshine now lost script as they all do so to be honest as soon as i started reading it and saw that aspect appearing then i just skipped over it as they all read the same.
he would have needed to have had a reason to welly it on like that but obviously it gets overlooked.
there is always the chance he was just a pompous superior full of his own importance wazzock but nobody seems to have mentioned that either.
He probably wasn’t thinking or like a lot think they can handle it. Put them on a race track and they are generally useless. Aggressive drivers are amongst the worst types on our roads. 
id think the worst type of drivers were the duddly do good types that adhere to the ridiculously low speed limits now imposed by revenue vans so that their driving holds back and infuriates most other normal drivers leading to road rage and risky aggressive overtaking overtaking.
do you go to open track days a lot? 
Could it be he was trying to commit suicide?
Own Account Driver:
Doesn’t seem to be any details on why the Porsche driver was potentially in such as rush as 120mph over a solid white in the pouring rain is the sort of thing you only see in the most out of control police pursuits where the perp wants to get away at any cost?
Or possibly on the way ‘to’ a ‘meet’/‘deal’ that was effectively one that he couldn’t refuse or be late for.Looks like a lot of needless car for a pub landlord’s expected income and lifestyle but one stereotypical with a certain type of demographic.Also obviously had no fear of the law whatsoever given that an unmarked plod car or a camera flash he’d have been toast.
Let’s just say if I was the law I’d be looking a lot deeper into that case on the basis that there might possibly be a lot more to it,than just an unexplained,somehow suddenly totally deranged nutter,driving at impossible speeds in the wrong place with predictable results.
Good grief! That’s appalling driving by this clown on public roads, So sad to read innocent person getting killed by his ridiculous driving.
Carryfast:
Own Account Driver:
Doesn’t seem to be any details on why the Porsche driver was potentially in such as rush as 120mph over a solid white in the pouring rain is the sort of thing you only see in the most out of control police pursuits where the perp wants to get away at any cost?Or possibly on the way ‘to’ a ‘meet’/‘deal’ that was effectively one that he couldn’t refuse or be late for.Looks like a lot of needless car for a pub landlord’s expected income and lifestyle but one stereotypical with a certain type of demographic.Also obviously had no fear of the law whatsoever given that an unmarked plod car or a camera flash he’d have been toast.
Let’s just say if I was the law I’d be looking a lot deeper into that case on the basis that there might possibly be a lot more to it,than just an unexplained,somehow suddenly totally deranged nutter,driving at impossible speeds in the wrong place with predictable results.
If he’s the man I think he was, then he was quite a well-known businessman in Bath with interests including at least one franchised car dealership.
Wife said at the inquest he was a top notch driver, or words to that effect.
Not on that day he wasn’t - he probably has a reputation for driving like a moron but this day his luck ran out.
The car was clearly above his competance as a driver.
I would really like to know what was in his mind too. Only those who knew him could tell us if he was habitually reckless, which, having read the Mail article, seems he could have been, in which case this horrific incident was only a matter of time. At 62 you would hope he would have more sense. Perhaps he was frustrated at having such a powerful car and not being able to use it. Was there a tractor in the line of traffic? No excuses for such driving. You’re only gonna be held up by the next lorry with today’s amount of vehicles on the road. Dunno why, but I’ve always considered his particular model of car to be quite obscene.
P.S. If he was a “top notch driver” then he probably considered his fast driving to be safe. Arrogance.
The biggest reason for having a car like that is for show because you cannot use the power or handling capability of the vehicle anywhere near its maximum on a road.
Of course its entirely possible for a driver who has never raced to think he is the next Lewis Hamilton and can drive the car on the road to what he thinks is the limit until the day it all goes wrong.
bald bloke:
Shame he didn’t live to be left with crippling injuries and to be banged up for Manslaughter !!
What’s the going rate for death by dangerous, 3 or 4 years? It’s not adequate. If someone did that to my partner I think I’d be glad if they died too. The thought of them walking the streets having fun and enjoying life at some point in the future after killing one of my family under those circumstances would really get to me.
SJB:
bald bloke:
Shame he didn’t live to be left with crippling injuries and to be banged up for Manslaughter !!What’s the going rate for death by dangerous, 3 or 4 years? It’s not adequate. If someone did that to my partner I think I’d be glad if they died too. The thought of them walking the streets having fun and enjoying life at some point in the future after killing one of my family under those circumstances would really get to me.
Don’t know about the “going rate” but according to the Sentencing Council the starting point for a case like this one would be 8 years, with a range of 7-14 years (7 years for an early guilty plea etc). Even if the ■■■■ did survive to be tried, convicted and sentenced, nothing can bring those victims back.
Snudger:
P.S. If he was a “top notch driver” then he probably considered his fast driving to be safe. Arrogance.
Ironically inappropriate speed in the wrong place can seem ‘fast’.While 120 mph + in the right place can seem slow and can take more to make it interesting.So muppets like this drive at silly speeds in the wrong place then think that they are quick drivers.But most of us grew out of that before the age of 20 if not from day 1 given the right teaching and attitude.So a type of ■■■■■■ behaviour even at well below his age.
Roymondo:
Don’t know about the “going rate” but according to the Sentencing Council the starting point for a case like this one would be 8 years
Yes, so I wasn’t far off then. (Halve any so called ‘sentence’ to get an idea of how long they’ll actually be in jail for).
I’ve always seen sentencing as a con trick on the public, if you sentence someone to 8 years jail, that’s how long it should be, not half for good behaviour or any other nonsense. It’s a PR swindle, 8 years in jail for a bad offender sounds much better to the general public than 4 years…
It was stated at the inquest , if survived , the charge would be gross negligence manslaughter , not death by dangerous driving .
Manslaughter would be 18 years in prison .
That couple with the bouncy castle on a windy day , the toddler killed , they got 3 years each .
On several local online news , it says Mr Barton had gone to Warminster to pay for repairs for his vehicle .
Returned from Warminster to drive to Mole Valley farmers , which is off the A36 .
Carryfast said he may have been rushing to a meeting , I don’t think so .
I have known Ian since 1989 , his first marriage was to Karen , her family owned a large mobile crane business .
He had two sons from their marriage , one son is a very successful company owner of a hamburger chain .His other son now runs Ian’s pub near Bath .
Ian owned or co-owned a Mazda dealership and painting /repair garage .
His pub regularly had helicopters landing nearby , with famous people dining .
Nobody will know why he was driving like that .
toby1234abc:
It was stated at the inquest , if survived , the charge would be gross negligence manslaughter , not death by dangerous driving .
Manslaughter would be 18 years in prison .
You can read the Sentencing Guidelines for Gross Negligence Manslaughter here and as you will see it is far from “18 years in prison” if he was successfully prosecuted for that, and that’s a MASSIVE IF.
sentencingcouncil.org.uk/of … slaughter/
As you will see by reading it, stupid driving like that would ‘unfortunately’ only fall under C or D for sentencing. 2 to 4 years starting point. Absolutely loads of past cases where idiots have driven recklessly like this ■■■■■■■■ did and killed people and only got low single digit sentences, out in half.
I’d rather hear about the poor womans family and how they are doing now, don’t give a stuff who his family are or what they’re doing.